is it something different than what we want to do with edward snowden?ennedy: i see a clear difference between edward snowden and julian assange. i think julian assange is more of a destructive mental patient and i think there is something heroic and important about what edward snowden did. kennedy: if he's a nutter he would lie through his teeth. he wouldn't care. >> the other thing about snowden and assange. they will never bring these guys to justice. assange will hide out. snowden is where he is. they are playing games with the u.s. government. kennedy: edward snowden, there were very valuable things about what he did. everyone is a russian spy. if you don't have an he can explanation for things, it's the ibs of politics. thank you so much. bring in the floral happy spring bouquet for everyone. coming up, tensions mount between the u.s. and north korea. are we nearing a nuclear war or are there other options we should be looking into. rob o'neill here to talk it ovov when i first started working with capital one, my dad called them up and asked for "

> while we do our best to quietly collect information, individuals such as julian assange and edward snowden seek to use the information to make a name for themselves. they care nothing about the lives they put at risk or the damage they cause to national security. >> former pakistani president -- pakistanust understand sacrifices, the sacrifices we have given fighting terrorism. secretary-general -- >> we have been loyal to our core values and core tasks ever since we were founded back in 1949. we are an alliance where we have promised to protect each other. one for all and all for one. >> a joint session of the canadian parliament -- 130 million girls are out of school today. they may not know the statistics, but they understand education is the only part to a guided future. >> we discussed the current state of the u.s.-russia relations. the current state of u.s.-russia relations is that a low point. there is a low level of trust between the two countries. we cannot have this kind of relationship. availableprograms are at c-span.org, our homepage, and by searching the video library. >> c-s

last night we had edward snowden speak to us via skype.estion, how think edward snowden's actions would be judged differently by media, especially if he had exposed same level of corruption and lawlessness from within a corporation rather than from within the government? [applause] >> i think it might be treated differently. john: some conservatives say he committed treason. people putting their lives on the line for america may die because of what he revealed. >> well i think he broke the law. i think he should pay for breaking the law. i think that is requirement under our system, that people take responsibility for breaking the law. but i also think that the law is bad the way it is written. the law should be changed. we need to allow people inside whistle-blowers come to people on the outside, like member congress. for example, snowden and others like him can not come to regular member about congress like me. they have to go through the intelligence committee. that is outrageous. they should be able to go to anyone in congress. we all

because while we do our best to quietly collect information, individuals such as julian assange and edward snowdenk to use that information to make a name for themselves. splash,as they make a they care nothing about the lives they put at risk for the damage they cause to national security. s. former pakistani president --i think when pakistan is blaming pakistan is actually wrong -- absolutely wrong. we continue to fight the fight fighting terrorism. >> later, secretary-general yen still work. >> we have been value to our since 1949. you promised to protect each other. one for all, all for one. yousafzaiala addresses canada. not know the studies on statistics, they understand that education is the only path to a brighter future. >> and secretary of state rex tillerson on u.s.-russia relations. ask we discussed the state of u.s.-russian relations. i expressed the current view the relations are at a low point. there is a low level of trust between the countries. the world's two foremost nuclear powers cannot have this kind of relationship. availableprograms are on c-span.org, our homepage, and sear

chelsea manning and edward snowden carried out heroic, courageous acts.y fulfilled the responsibility of somebody who takes citizenship seriously. that is who believes the people of a country ought to know something about what the government is up to stop ok? like every government is going up murders, brutal attacks in iraq, people should know about it. it takes us back to martin luther king's talk in 1967. if the government is, and corporations, too, incidentally, are listening into your telephone conversations, what havingdoing, you know, a discussion and so on, we should know about it. governments have no right to do things about that. people should know about it. if they think it is ok, fine. they should all about it come and not do it in secret. i don't think people would agree to it, and that is why it is kept secret. these are people who exposed it at great risk to themselves. so those are her wrote, courageous acts. if wikileaks was abetting them, more power to them. that is what they should be doing. amy: president trump endorsed wikileaks. he sa

related to the case of n-s-a leaker edward snowden. they think wikileaks played a major role in helping snowden leak those classified documents, four years ago. assange is currently holed up at the ecuadorian embassy in london. some sad news to pass along this morning. larry hogan senior-- a former maryland governor larry hogan - has died. the governor made the announcement on his facebook page, calling his father "an american hero." the elder-hogan suffered a stroke over the weekend. the governor canceled public events thursday to be with his father. larry hogan senior was 88-years-old. fios is not cable. we're wired differently. maybe that's why we've been nked highest in customer tisfaction by jd power 4 years a row. and now you can love fios too. get 150 meg internet, tv and phone. all for $79.99 per month, for the first year with a two-year agreement. it's the only internet with equal upload and download speeds. cable only offers upload spe

i think edward snowden has been a hero and the facebooker got to right. he sacrificed his life.ve but has to live in russia. john: he's a traitor, i'm told, may have endangered american assets? >> he told americans what government was doing to them, and now having a debate about whether what he did was right and the entire debate is basedon knowing the information. >> he could have gone to congress instead of making it public? >> congress has had the authority to find the information out for years. they haven't looked for it. haven't wanted to know. john: larry? >> alexander is one of the greatest heroes of the last century. he spent ten years in the gulag, the soviet prison system. and had the courage to smuggle out much of his -- many of his writings, and continued to his dying day, in later years, defending individual liberty, and i think he was a great hero. john: kevin? >> howard fuller. he was superintendent of schools in milwaukee in the early 90s, and because of him we have school choice. he took a stand as an african-american superintendent and said this government of s

of wikileaks and assange changed after they found wikileaks played an active role in helping edward snowdenthe former nsa analyst who fled to russia. it appears the current administration has taken a stronger position that charges can be brought against assange. take a listen to cia director mike pompeo last week. >> wikileaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service. julian assange has pre-tretende first american justice hand freed them. >> reporter: assange is untouchable as long as he remain at the embassy. extradition is unlikely to happen. >> thank you, shimon. let's bring back our panel. we have a.b. stoddard and david gregory and joining us is phil mudd. so interesting, phil, to hear from cia director mike pompeo there. saying how pernicious that julian assange after president trump said i love wikileaks. look at the exciting information from wikileaks. it was about hillary clinton during the campaign. so what do you think about wikileaks and do you think they will be able to make the case that the first amendment doesn't apply here for

liz: make it clear to our viewers, you were nsa director when edward snowden, call him what you will,ither a traitor or whistle-blower leaked the nsa information. >> i think the former. and when you think about what he did and who helped him get from where he was in california to hong kong to moscow. not a good way to get to venezuela and who helped him and what they did with the data. the cia leaks clearly looks to me as if wikileaks is focused on our country. when you see how that and other things like the democratic convention hacks, the national democratic party, what happened to them, russia, and so i think we ought to call it what it is and push back. liz: does it bother you to have heard that number one mike pompeo during the election strike a different tune almost supportive and president trump said in the past, i love wikileaks. >> nothing beats having access to all the information to see what's really going on, and i think what both the president and director pompeo have is now there on the playing field. they see what's going on, and getting that information for our country

investigators found what they believe was proof that wikileaks played an active role in helping edward snowden, the former nsa analyst disclose a massive cache of classified documents. wikileaks has long defended itself as publishing in the public interest and compares itself to media organizations. we know he's sitting in the ecuadorian embassy in london and it's unlikely that the u.s. can get him anytime soon, so it's largely viewed as sending a political message. back to you. >> thank you, pam. attorney general jeff sessions calls the arrest of assange a priority. u.s. officials were hoping a new regime in ecuador would expel the wikileaks co-founder, but ecuador's new president has promised to continue to harbor assange. >>> meantime, there's pushback about the president's travel ban. he expressed shock that a judge in hawaii could block president trump's executive order. judge watson wanted to block the second version of the ban. listen to what the nation's top prosecutor told conservative talk show host mark levin. >> i really am amazed that a judge sitting on an island in the pacific ca

quietly collect information on those who pose real threats, it individuals like julian assange and edward snowden seek to use that information to make a name for themselves. as long as they make a splash, they care nothing about the lives they put at risk for the damage they cause. >> the former pakistani president. >> those who blame pakistan are wrong. they must understand pakistan's sacrifices, fighting terrorism. secretary general jan stoltenberg. >> we have been loyal to our core value, ever since we were founded in 1949. an alliance we are where we have promised to protect each other. laureate malala yousafzai. >> 130 million girls are out of some old today. the studies orve the statistics, but they understand education is the only path to guide the future. >> rex tillerson on u.s.-russia relations. the view that the current state of u.s.-russia relations is at a low point. there is a low level of trust between our countries. foremost nuclear powers cannot have this kind of relationship. videos are available on the video library. . >> all month,

but stellar went this is what edward snowden revealed later. >> this is the kind of surveillance. >> key yes. this is the stuff. this is why it isn't easy. so little after noon susan rice to minimize the u.s. names i am asking the names don't have to do that now. to suppress the u.s. identities about that communication to protect the privacy. the lesson becomes critical to the intelligence i simply said when we decide to minimize the names with the communications between afghanistan and the united states of america, with more meaning for word it is always a judgment and nsa is notoriously conservative. and i said i have 3,000 dead countrymen and my headquarters is in that other country. so all a little more for word to make that value judgment. so i would call george tenet that the church right formed those committees is headed is a little different here i am happy to come talk to you the house said explain and i did. so georgann his morning update to say i am doing this and this is pretty soon after and the way george tells the story one more thing mike hayden is going to jail. [lau

related to the case of n-s-a leaker edward snowden.hey think wikileaks played a major role in helping snowden leak those classified documents, four years ago. assange is currently holed up at the ecuadorian embassy in london. the continuing fight over obamacare' could lead to a government shutdown next week. congress has until next friday to pass a spending bill. the house could also vote on a new bill to repeal and replace obamacare. some republicans want the spending bill to end the subsidies to insurance companies that are as part of the affordable care act. democrats have vowed to block any bill that doesn't continue the payments or includes funding for the presiden mexico. ad lib photos loudoun county valor awards this morning we are good luck all morning to jummy olbanji before she heads to start a new career in new york city. - afternoon thunderstorms (2-6 pm) - cooler weekend - timing out rain chances (best chance sat. night into early sunday morning) today: partly to mostly cloudy. warm. afternoon thunderstorms possible (2-6 p

do our best to quietly collect information, individuals such as julian assange and edward snowden seeks to use that information to make a name for themselves. as long as they make a splash care nothing about it. those who are blaming pakistan are absolutely wrong. they must understand pakistan's sacrifices. we continue to sacrifice fighting terrorism. >> we have been loyal to our core task. ever since we were founded in 1949. that is that we are an alliance where we have promised to protect each other. one for all, all for one. nobel prize lauree addresses a joint session of the canadian parliament. >> 130 million girls are out of school today. statisticst know the they understand that education is the only path to a brighter future. >> rex tillerson. we discussed the current state of u.s. russia relations. u.s. russiastate of relations is at a low point. there is a low level of trust between our countries. nucleard's foremost powers cannot have this kind of relationship. c-span programs are available at c-span.org. washington journal continues. has: the state of new york proposed a fre

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those thefts include thousands of pages taken by chelsea manning and edward snowden. wikileaks founder julian assange, currently living at the ecuadoran embassy in london, has all but dared u.s. officials to come after him. the obama justice department decide not to, but new attorney general jeff sessions says he has reopened the case. >> we've seen too many breaches and hopefully we'll be able to strike back against those who violate our systems. >> reporter: cbs news has learned the c.i.a. and the f.b.i. belie at the c.i.a. was an inside job. investigators say the materials were stolen from a highly secure section of the intelligence agency where it takes two people to access information. but even that security measure was, apparently, not enough. michael morell is a forme acting director of the c.i.a. so many of these leaks in the last several years, how do you stop it from happening? >> we can't keep all of the information in one place. we need to spread it out. we have to have better rules about need to know, and if you don't have a need to know, you don't get ac

information on those who pose very real threat to our country, individuals such as julian assange and edward snowden seek to use the information to make a name for themselves. as long as they make a splash, they care nothing about the lives they put at risk or the damage they cause to national security. >> former pakistani president, pervez musharraf. >> those blaming pakistan are absolutely wrong. they must understand pakistan's sacrifices. the role we played and sacrifices we've given fighting terrorism. and we still sacrifice fighting terrorism. >> nato second general jens stoltenberg. >> the value after core task ever since we were founded back in 1949. that is that we are an alliance where we promised to protect each other. one for all, all for one. >> nobel prize laureate address as joint session of the canadian parliament. >> along the

but prosecutors believe they can prove assanges's wrongdoing in the case of n-s-a leaker edward snowdensange is currently at the ecuadorian embassy in london. ( james ) a long- time oakland institution is closing its doors. after 90-years the genova ravioli factory says it's time to move it's operations to napa. the announcement came through a facebook posting. it appears continuous problems with graffiti and other vandalism are contriubting factors. the owners say just recently 15-thousand dollars worth of damage was done to the windows and outside of the building.. they say they hope their napa factory will make it another 90 years. the oakland store will officially close up shop on april 30th. (james) still ahead... now that the rainy season has come and gone, mosquito season is set to begin. the precautions one city is taking to make sure disease carrying mosquitos don't become a problem. and... warriors star forward kevin durant provides us with an update on his injury. how he says he's feeling. after the break.. thousands showed up for the cities 4-20 celebration. but did people b

collect information on those who oppose risks to our country, individuals like julian assange and edward snowden seek to use that information to make a name for themselves. as long as they make a splash, they care nothing about the lives they put at risk or the damage they cause to national security. those leaving pakistan are wrong. sacrificesnderstand we have given fighting terrorism and we continue to sacrifice fighting terrorism. >> we have been loyal to our --e value, our core cost core cause since we were founded in 1949. in alliance, all for 1, 1 for all. world, 130 million girls are out of school today. they may not have done the studies and may not know the statistics, but they understand education is the only path to a brighter future. >> secretary of state rex tillerson on u.s.-russia relations. thee currently discussed state of u.s.-russia relations and i expressed the view the current state is at a low point. there is a low level of trust between our two countries. foremost nuclear powers cannot have this kind of relationship. >> c-span pr

information on those who pose very real threats to our country, individuals such as julian assange and edward snowdenseek to use that information for themselves. they care nothing about the damage they cause to national security. >> former pakistani president musharraf. >> think must understand pakistan's sacrifices. the role that we've played and the sacrifices we've given fighting terrorism, and we still have sacrifice fighting terrorism. >> nato secretary-general jens stoltenberg. >> we have been dedicated to the task since we were founded in 1949. and ha we athat is an alliancew protect each other. >> nobel laureate, malala yousafzai. >> 130 million girls are out of school today. they may not have the studies, and they may not know the statistics, but they understand that education is the only part to a brighter future. >> secretary of state rex tillerson on u.s./russia relations. >> we currently assess the state of u.s./russia relations. i assess the view that the current state of u.s./russia relations is at a low point. there is a low level of trust between our two countries. the world's two fo

information on those who pose a real threat to our country, individuals such as julian assange and edward snowden seek to use that information to make a name for themselves. about thenothing lives they put at risk or the damage they caused to national security. >> former pakistani president. pakistan has made sacrifices fighting terrorism. we still continue to sacrifice fighting terrorism. >> nato secretary-general. >> we have been loyal to our core ever since we were founded back in 1949. are an alliance were we have promised to protect each other. one for all, all for one. >> nobel prize laureate just as a joint session of the canadian parliament. >> 100,000,030 guns around the school. you may not have read the studies or know the statistics, but they understand that only part tothe guide the future. >> secretary of state rex tillerson. u.s./russiased the relations. view of the relations is at a low point. there is a low level of trust between our two countries. foremost nuclear powers cannot have this kind of relationship. >> availablegrams are online by searching video library. monday night,

you know, if you are looking for the truth, i personal have come to a conclusion, if you hear edward snowden or julian assange tell us they wto reveal the truth, i think they will get closer to the truth than this. hopefully, some of this the be neutralize by further digging into susan rice. it sounds like she could be in a lot of trouble. liz: this sounds like a constitutional crisis. spreading names in conversation around 17 intelligence agencies, this is a real constitutional crisis here. about citizen's civil liberties and right, right? >> absolutely. the biggest question, and has been rumored on the internet, don't worry about it, susan rice, she doesn't need to worry about the law coming down on her, because she is part of the deep state someone will protect her. there will be a technicality, but i think that politically there will be. i think this will continue because the republicans have been on the receiving end, you know over the russian deal that will now go on the back burner, before it was everything russia, russia's fault and on this like i said, republicans sort of did not ca

pompeo: while we do our best, individuals such as edward snowden seek to use the information to make a name for themselves. as long as they make a splash, they care nothing about the lives they put it risk or the damage they caused the national security. >> the former pakistani president. >> i believe they are absolutely wrong. they must understand pakistan's sacrifices we have given fighting terrorism. we continue to sacrifice fighting terrorism. >> and then the secretary general. >> the core value, the core task. it was founded in 1949. an alliance for he promised to protect each other. one for all, all for one. >> the nobel prize laureate malala discusses. >> 130 million guns are out today. they may not have heard the studies or statistics, but they understand that education is the only part. >> secretary of state rex tillerson on u.s.-russia relations. >> we discussed current state of u.s.-russia relations. it is at a low point currently. there was a low level of trust between our two countries. the world's two foremost nuclear powers cannot have this kind of relationship. >> c-s

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. >> if we talk about edward snowden, that brought together on the far left and the far right sayingwas too much invasion by the state. i, for one, i would love to see you support this as well. i would like to see reauthorization of the patriot act. >> tucker: now you are get abstract. we know a political appointee, susan rice, an adviser, requested american names and monitors trump's entourage for months. we know her behavior is unusual. >> i will explain why i called you a smokescreen salesman. >> tucker: i don't take it personally. >> your previous guest, life-long republican, i'm not talking about politics. >> tucker: as an american, i'm not talking max, i don't care what his political affiliation, as an american, you are not bothered? >> i'm bothered by our country being compromised by a number one adversary being compromised. the reason i took a hit at you is because yesterday, or april 2, right when the washington post was going to come out with its story about the meeting between trump people and russians, that's when we decided to hear all about susan rice and the character

. >> edward snowden's law breaking revealed the nsa keeps a record of most every phone call americansat makes a lot of people mad. >> get a specific warrant based on probable cause or stay out of our lives. >> what you do on your cell phone is none of their damn business. >> senator rand paul sued the government for collecting those phone logs without getting warrants for each person. >> i think there is a fourth amendment protection to your recor records. >> the fourth amendment forbids unreasonable searches and seizu seizures. >> when they passed that, they were thinking about the british soldiers coming into your home going through your drawers. this is just data mining. >> here's the problem. they'll tell you they're prot t protecting us, they have privacy controls in place. i've got a news flash for you, sometimes the government doesn't tell the truth. >> i can't understand what rand paul is yelling about with all this talk and yelling he does, not one example of political abuse. >> he ss political abuse because the nsa admits to abuse called love interests. >> the nsa spied on n

information on those that pose a very real threat to our countries individuals like julian assange and edward snowdeneek to use that information to make a name for themselves. as long as they make a splash, they care nothing about the lives they put at risk or the damage they cause to national security. wikileaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service. encouraged its follows to find jobs at the cia in order to obtain intelligence. they directed chelsea manning in her theft of specific secret information. overwhelmingly focuses on the united states while seeking support from anti-democratic countries and organizations. it's time to call out wikileaks for what it is. a nonstate hostile intelligence service embedded by state actors like russia. in january of this year, our intelligence community determined that the gru had used wikileaks to release data of victims that the gru obtained through cyber object raises against the democratic national committee. the report fund that russia's primary propaganda outlet, r.t., has actively collaborated with wikilea

investigators found what they believed was proof that wikileaks played an active role in helping edward snowden, the former nsa analyst disclose a cashe of documents and then last week mike pompeo give a hint of this. >> he walks and talks like a hostile intelligence service and has edge couraged followers to find jobs at the cia to obtain intelligence. it directed chelsea manning in the theft of secret information. it focuses on the united states while seeking support from anti-democratic countries and organizations. >> reporter: as you heard the cia director there making the distinction that in the view of cia, wikileaks wasn't just publishing the stolen information, it played an active role. wikileaks has long defended itself as publishing in the public's interests and compared itself to media organizations. >> assange is in the embassy. >> reporter: this could be viewed as a political move as long as he remains there in the embassy and ecuador does not change its stance. u.s. officials focused on the election in ecuador and the possibility that the new government would excel assange and he

information on those who pose a very real threat to our country, individuals such as julian assange and edward snowdento use that information to make a name for themselves. as long as they make a splash, they care nothing about the lives they put at risk or the damage they cause to national security. wikileaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service. it has encouraged followers to find jobs at the cia in order to obtain intelligence. it directed chelsea manning in her theft of specific secret information and overwhelmingly focuses on the united states while seeking support from any democratic countries and organizations. it's time to call out wikileaks for what it really is. a nonstate hostile intelligence service often abedded by state actors like russia. in january of this year, russian military intelligence released data of victims that they obtained through cyberoperations against the democratic national committee. the report also found that russia's primary propaganda outlet, rt, has collaborated with wikileaks. now, for those of you who read the ed

it is believed wikileaks helped chelsea mann leak and edward snowden leak classified documents aboutnce techniques. the case against assange may be an uphill battle. >> i think the government is going to have to prove that assag he somehow aiding and abedding manning in acquiring information or aided and abedded someone else that acquired information that wikileaks published. they can't base the process just on publication of the information. >> during chelsea manning's trial the government did present chat logs documenting alleged conversations between assange and manning in which they discussed how to crack a pass word to an army data base. assange telling manning he had the tools for doing that. some believe that could serve as basis for conspiracy charge against assange. today assange's attorney told me there is no evidence to that. >> there is breaking news next, breaking news to cnn a defiant missile launch by north korea app kim jong-un regime and president trump ratcheted up talk of war. , can you just nix , just for like two seconds? thank you. you need verizon. they have th

if somebody is scooping up all that information, it's the old edward snowden talk we had. who gets to decide what happens to the stuff they say they don't need. >> could give us more risks than rewards. the "l.a. times" extending its scathing anti-trump series branding the president trump a train wreck. has the mainstream media gone too far? and we continue to await a joint news conference from the white house where president trump could comment on the susan rice unmasking controversy for the first time. we'll bring you that as soon as it begins. stay with us. if you're approaching 65, now's the time to get your ducks in a row. to learn about medicare, and the options you have. you see, medicare doesn't cover everything - only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so if 65 is around the corner, think about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, they help cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medica

investigators found what they believe, proof that wikileaks played an active role in helping edward snowden disclose a cache of classified documents. and last week mike pompeo gave a strong hint of this mpltd. >> wikileaks walks and talks like a hostile intelligence service. it's encouraged its followers to find jobs at the cia in order to gain intelligence. manning intercepted secret information. it seeks support from democratic countries an organizations. roimt erin wikileaks has defended itself of publications in the interest of the public. >> and one final question to you before you go, pam. assange is sitting in the embassy in london, right? now the u.s. wants to charge him. can they get him? >> reporter: it's a good question. this could be viewed as political since assange as you point out is untouchable as long as he mains in the equadorian embassy. in recent months officials had focused on the possibility that a new government would expel assange and release him. but the new president has promised to continue to harbor him. >> thank you very much, pam. let's go to jeffrey tubin our

the last sales spike was in 2013 following the edward snowden spying revelations.tes two hundred cinemas are screening an adaptation of the novel. tom brook has been taking a look. this week on tuesday at more than 200 community cinemas, crows can add to see 198a. this film, made in the 19805, to see 198a. this film, made in the 1980s, is an adaptation of george 0 rwell‘s 1980s, is an adaptation of george 0rwell‘s novel detailing the experiences of a man who exists in a dystopian future, in a big totalitarian state. among the crowd was a sense of anticipation. totalitarian state. among the crowd was a sense of anticipationlj was a sense of anticipation.” haven't seen it in a few years, i am curious to go back and see what resonates now. the man who co—organised these 198a international screenings believes the film is timely in the age of trump. which was making 84 because it isa trump. which was making 84 because it is a work that is really resonating with a lot of people at this moment in the united states and even this moment in the united states and even around

after investigators found what they believe was proof wikileaks played an active role in helping edward snowden the former nsa analyst disclose a massive cache of classified documents and the cia director mike pompeo gave a strong hint of this. >> wikileaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service. it directed chelsea manning in her theft of specific secret information. it overwhelmingly focuses on the united states while seeking support from anti-democratic countries and organizations. >> some strong words there from the cia director. in the meantime, wikileaks continues to defend itself in publishing in the public's interest and compares itself to media organizations. >> that assange has been hold up in the ecuadorian embassy in london. even if there were arrest charges they can't pull him out of the ecuadorian embassy. >> what's the point of this if he is in the safe haven in the embassy. what we're being told by officials is this is more of a political message he is untouchable as long as he remains at the embassy. in the past few months u.s. o

investigators found what they believe to be proof that wikileaks played an active role in helping edward snowden a former nsa analyst and last week director of the cia gave a strong hint about what has changed. take a litsen. >> wikileaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service. it has encouraged its followers to find jobs at the cia in order to obtain intelligence. it directed chelsea manning in her theft of specific secret information. it overwhelming focuses on the united states while seeking support from antidemocratic countries and organizations. >> and wolf, we've talked to julian assange's lawyer and he says he's had no communication with the justice department despite multiple efforts he's made to get some clarity as to whether or not this investigation is still ongoing. he says that they've been unwilling to have any discussion about this and he says there's no reason why wikileaks should be treated differently from any other publisher, he says that wikileaks serves in the public interest publishing information not only about the united st

a path to prosecution after investigators found what they believe was proof wikileaks helped edward snowdensclose classified documents. a lot to discuss. glen, if assange did more than publish this information, if he aided and abetted, does that change things? your opinion? >> it's a huge if. the obama justice department said they had searched for evidence that indicated he did that and found none. even if he did, there are all kinds of ways that journalists constantly work with their sources in order to get information that they think that will help them report on stories. if we start criminalizing and turning into felonies the collaboration that journalists do with their sources in terms of reporting information, you would not only chill reporting in this country more than it has been chilled by the prosecution of sources but you would enable the government, the trump justice department to prosecute media outlets on this theory they work with their sources. that's what makes it so dangerous. >> you hear glen's opinion. do you think wikileaks is a news organization? should he be tried in a