edward snowden welcome. thank you more than forty years after daniel has been n.s.a. employee edward snowden emerges as a whistleblower the usa now has a new public enemy number one. thanks to manning and now to you and getting more favorable publicity. and in forty years is already had. because suddenly people who were all for putting me in prison for life before now realize that i was really a very good guy i was the. i was the good whistleblower and so i'm i'm totally of course i rejected this from the beginning that i didn't want to be a foil for. showing a badly to people that i totally admired there was a moment of hope x. hobart's conference in july in new york city. ellsberg was having a live conversation with snowden we have a front as a mayor and as members of the global community and know the broad outlines of the policies that have a significant impact on our lives and i think that's something that tom grant showed me how to do the right way. there was a moment where he said. very clearly very distinctly that i showed him the right way. i had always hope t

centralized platforms like steam at mines and mastodon reward whistleblowers like edward snowden and create new fifty k. laws protecting privacy because otherwise privacy protection is going to consist of nothing more than octogenarians talking about how they want your chocolate doesn't even wash d.c. the days there is a. welcome i'm late candelas take the news from behind. the us russia china saudi arabia israel iran they all seem poised for world war over what's happening in syria rather than tell you what to think about this i do want to go through a quick timeline of events here about two weeks ago from said in the speech that we would withdraw all very soon from syria surprising the pentagon and the state department the pentagon was i. will really do withdraw all from anywhere i have heard as it's not really in our skill set per se. then just nine days ago instructed the military to begin planning for withdrawal from syria again the military industrial complex is like i know he keeps saying it's over but you know i think there's a lot in this relationship there is that sometimes

what edward snowden revealed let's go over it again all right even if you're not doing anything wrong you're being watched and recorded the n.s.a. routinely lies in response to congressional inquiries about the scope of surveillance in america we collect more digital communications from america than we do from the russians we hack everyone everywhere you have any idea how much data google facebook and apple have on every single one of us privacy consultant dylan khurrana went through this on his twitter feed dissected every piece of info google and facebook had collected on the businesses you bought from the products you bought every app and extension you've ever used every photo you've ever taken on your phone every photo on my phone what the hell is google going to do with that many photos of back penpals. you know just people go and i got to figure out what the house i thing is if i did this in a photo of it i could be going to be sitting around a fire and. but that's not all your google hangout sessions they also have your google calendar all the events you've ever added yes they'

blowers like daniel ellsberg thomas drake william binney and edward snowden. hackers and activists like the wiki leaks founder julian assange and the former british secret service agent an emotional they warn us about the complete surveillance of our society they oppose intelligence agencies governments and corporations and for this they are threatened hounded and imprisoned. why are they so committed what drives them. the intelligence services enough the only ones monitoring communications and processing massive data. also private corporations like google amazon facebook and apple collect millions of pieces of information about us to analyze and monetize. tax i think is a self sort that's not on sacked that i am a person mentioned data center washed off this i don't since they want it's this earth and nine v.h.f. and a slick not a sit down or stuff tiger suit us all school had to be honest. we don't really know what exactly happens with their own digital trails our data is transferred invisibly to huge data centers. sublimating into a complex new identity cre

the revelations by edward snowden provide detailed insight into the relationship between intelligence services and private companies. telephone metadata and web browsing histories of great interest to the intelligence community. see that's really industrial relations. they were tapping the fiber lines between the google servers. they didn't even know this is going on google the dot ok so i mean that's the point they can tap lines anywhere in the world and when they do that they can get it between the servers of any but any company. from my perspective i think there's been massive collusion between the big corporations and big government with. the military security complex they have agreements between them where they will pay money for data if they produce data for n.s.a. or they will also pay for access and like for example the the room in the eighteen t. facility in san francisco that has the n.s.a. . it's the n.s.a. room that has the tappan on an hourly fee data and it's really eighteen t. that has them maintain that room facebook is evil in my view have been saying as he is it's th

in germany it's like this if you a real political refugee someone like edward snowden to julian assange ask you both come even close to be able to claim asylum on the other hand you have people coming to our country who were never involved into any kind of politics they throw away up their passport and then they all they have to do is claim to be political asylum seekers and then they are they say they are granted any kind all benefits of the german welfare state for a life long time in case of this common writer for some up and latin he had to go to the police station every single day for the last twenty years or so just to check but he still they are. in germany we have the southern u.s. numbers from the federal police we have seven hundred sixty people who work characterized as violent islamists people. the police has to look after all of them some time this this works out but it's not possible to look at all all of it all the time facebook posts or pressure on allies members or rights we get into that sack story after this. what politicians do you should. put themselves on the line.

since the health law was passed according to federal records so booz allen of course was where edward snowden was working and why when he was actually working for the n.s.a. there basically is a huge corporation as they say that the deal is part of a larger push by booz majority owned by the carlyle group a private equity firm to sell technology services and consulting to has so carlyle group of course is comprised of as this private equity group is i think the largest in the world and it's headed by all these former presidents as kind of a way to do the kickbacks and make them oligarchs but be tended to private sector but all their contracts are with the government and because allen's all their contracts are with the government all these defense contractors all with the government their share prices are by the way on multiples looking very much like dot com companies like twenty six times p. so. here booz allen is in the business as well and we're not allowed to know because they're private sector as well but. because they do so much secret work with the government nobody knows how much mone

we began working with them on an amazing documentary citizen 4 about edward snowden. and we've been engaging them on a fairly regular basis to come back as guests of ours to actually continue to illuminate us in the bay area. and kind of allow us to be leaders in thisind of critique of what's going on in the technology industry. >> okay. and boots quickly, any more movies for you after the first film? >> yeah. i'm starting to write stuff now. >> all right. >> yeah. ais is just an expansion of everything i'eady been doing. >> we look forward to seeing your next work, and sf film festival running fm april 4th th to the 17th. >> is there more of this vodka? >> whisky is up next, but thank you for tenjoyi vodka. >> that's it? >> that's it. thank you very much. weitl send some home you after the interview. that'll do it for us. you can find more of your coverage online. thank you for joining us. captioning sponsored by wnet re >>ivasan: on this edition for sunday, april 1: president trump says no deal for dreamers despite being attacked during four years of war, this ukrai

contractor edward snowden twenty fourteen the go to beacon for all those who seek to follow in his footsteps is then the intercept an online publication backed by famed journalist glenn greenwald banned by the united u.s. department of defense on its computers and according to its boosters at least it whistleblowers best friend but how whistle friendly is the intercept once you get past it's highly real and public image apparently not at all especially in the recent case of terry all barry a former f.b.i. agent prosecuted for leaking national security information to the intercept joining tire of winter earlier was john kiriakou a former cia officer and whistleblower to discuss the case and more. done thank you very much always a pleasure having you with us in mind thank you recently we've seen whistleblower the f.b.i.'s terry obery he step forward minnesota was targeted through the espionage act. for passing along national defense information to reporters allegedly at the intercept you know subsided and cheap but see read stated news reports have suggested that the process prosecution may be

since the health law was passed according to federal records so booz allen of course was where edward snowden was working and why when he was actually working for the n.s.a. there basically is a huge corporation as they say that the deal is part of a larger push by booz majority owned by the carlyle group a private equity firm to sell technology services and consulting to has so carlyle group of course is comprised of as this private equity group is i think the largest in the world and it's headed by all these former presidents as kind of a way to do the kickbacks and make them oligarchs but private sector but all their contracts are with the government and because allen's all their contracts over the government all these defense contractors all with the government their share prices are by the way on multiples looking very much like dot com companies like twenty six times p. so. here allan is in the business as well and we're not allowed to know because they're private sector as well but. because they do so much secret work with the government nobody knows how much money they're actually get

but what we see happening now is i mean edward snowden's revelations were very very clear in confirming that these platforms have actually been penetrated by the national security agency and various other agencies in various ways. some of that some of it is through backdoor some of it is through kind of direct kind of agreements with these companies and so on and so forth but what's very clear is that these companies like facebook and google and other big platforms have to have given this kind of open playing field for agencies to really be able to monitor in quite a fine grained way the behaviors of populations which increasingly taking place online but that has all sorts of ramifications and one of the ramifications of that . and it's important to recognize that when we participate in these platforms i mean a lot of this sounds insidious but we're participating in it through the way in which we signed these terms and agreements which basically hand our data over to these companies you can't participate in facebook without doing that you can't participate in google without doing that w

strange enough these efforts are about to get a move from an unlikely source, a man by the name of edward snowden [applause] time for a question concerning the dark web. there's a bunch of myths building on the last couple of years. india into the military control of or to tak take it further cau avoid google by using the dark web? >> the first part is it any into the military controlled though because the military funds the dark web, so the project that is the dark web. a third of its funding comes from the navy and from the state department and the broadcasting board of governors which is close to the state department initiative. basically the american propaganda or media free europe. there would be very easy solutions to deal with it so that is the first part of your question. let's say you never log in to any surface then you can protect your self but as soon as you have a phone that's tied to your identity and you login and as soon as you walk into any of the services offered, and they are all basically walled in serviceslogin services,they do u because it doesn't matter which door cool you

if i were a tech company i would be wary of the chelsea mannings and the edward snowden.ogy discovered vulner bills in windows technology. if i'm and software company i will look at the past track record and say maybe it's not the best thing in the world to give information to intelligence agencies who leak like a pot with a strainer. >> it's been a very difficult week for the tech world. our founding fathers didn't have cell phones so we have this issue with the fourth amendment. security concerns and our right to privacy. what we learned from the facebook hearings is there is a lot of invasion of privacy. and a lot of americans are concerned about them getting information. companies signed on, but there are a few media companies that didn't. we have google, apple and amazon, the tech giants. they didn't sign on to it. but americans are concerned and up in arms over what happened and the nsa scandal and is co-systems is one of the tech giants that signed on to it. so that's a step in the right direction. >> i now it's a hotly debated situation. where do you come down on

exploits be open and technologies and networks to be exploited by the united states, however, edward snowden'saks severely crippled us. that this is a policy we can continue to use in the u.s. intelligence community or is it time to start catching up with those vulnerabilities? changednowden has rather dramatically. during the obama administration, there was an equity process established and the equity being do you continue because of valve toigence exploit a weakness or do you questioncompany in about a weakness? that over would show 90% of the cases, you tell the discrepancylace the or weakness. that approach has been solidified by the trump administration. that process is more disciplined and there is more restraint on the higher threshold for satisfying the intelligence equity over policing the discrepancy. that issue has morphed since snowden. thank you very much for speaking here. my name is jake hollander. i am a student. my question is related toward resilience. , lot of these cyberattacks they are not directed towards institutions, but more or less directed toward societal institution

it's another piece better than edward snowden or an antiquated but you know, she wanted to talk about her role in the war and finally get to say she had a top 30 clearance and she was part of one of the most important code breaking operations of world war ii. i kept telling her that to impress upon her thinking of japanese supply ships and she had of hard time getting her head around how this endeavor was. it turned out to be possible to find about 20 women to talk about their work and since my book is published i've heard from at least 20 more and many of whom are online. i heard from hundreds of children, adult children reacting like that is what my mom was doing. she said she was a secretary. what women didn't know as they had been released from their code of secrecy in the 1980s but no one had tracked them down individually and said it's okay to talk. they eventually became aware that memoirs are being written and books attend movies like the imitation game are being written and they were writing about the role of code breaking but this had been left out of history. both surprisin

i discuss my take on edward snowden and the aftermath of what he did and benghazi. i talked about that from sort of the government's perspective. it's a broader time span than just focusing on -- although i do speak to the election and the result and the aftermath which, to be honest, is kind of what motivated me to write awe book. i hadn't planned to do that until all of that happened. >> well, that sounds like it will be fascinating. obviously we will have you back on to help dissect your book when it comes out, director clapper. thanks so much for talking to us. >> thank you, alisyn. >> i think we may see a spate of books. so many want to tell their side of the story, so it seems. >>> after threatening to launch missiles, we hear plt has not decided how to respond in any way to the suspected chemical a tab in syria. was that just hype? is there any plan at all? is there any plan to go to congress? is congress insisting they do that? these are important questions. answers ahead. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. libe

a whistleblower known as the edward snowden of banking has been arrested in madrid on an arrest warrarant issued by switzezerland. in 2008, herve falciani blew the whistle on a massive tax evasion scheme run by his former employer, the swiss bank hsbc. probes were launched around the worlrld after falciani provided french authorities with files on over 100,000 prominent clients of hsbc. while hailed by a hero by many transparency advocates, falciani was convicted two years ago of economic espioionage in swititzerland. here in new york, police officers responding to a 911 call shot dead a mentally troubled african-american man on a street corner in brooklyn on thursday. at the time of his death, shaeed vassell was holding a metal pipe that looked like a shower head. police mistook it for a gun. the police said four officers -- three in plainclothes and one in uniform -- fired 10 rounds at a jamaicanay, immigrant. one witness said -- "they didn't say 'freeze, hands up, drop your gun', none of that. they didn't say nothing. all they did was startrt shooting." vassell's father said his son is

it means it's a long way from a lost and found box to edward snowden. and here is how he puts it. we started the clinton investigation aware it was unlikely to be a case that career nonpartisan prosecutors at the doj would prosecute and the clinton case thus started as an exercise in double-checking there was no deliberate leaking and ended with the fbi conclusion that there was no deliberate leaking. that would make it a simple case to close. of course as we know james comey broke with tradition when he stepped out there for that unusual press conference in the middle of the campaign, and he admits this was an effort to impact public perception. >> good morning. i'm here to give you an update on the fbi's investigation of secretary clinton's use of personal e-mail system during her time as secretary of state. although we did not find clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. this

edward snowden's legs crippled nobody but us due to wannacry.o you believe nobody but us is a policy we can continue to use? or is it time to start patching up those former abilities? think that has changed rather dramatically. during the obama administration, in the wake of that, there was a process established. the equity being, the two competing pulls, do you continue because of the intelligence value to exploit a weakness? the company in question about a weakness? the statistics which show that the vast majority of cases, over to, you tell the company place up the discrepancy. that has been solidified by the trump administration. that process is more disciplined. there is more restraint, there is a higher threshold for satisfying the intelligence equity over placing of the discrepancy. sincessue has morphed snowden. >> thank you very much for speaking here area my name is jake. i'm a student at the elliott school. my question is related to resilience. a lot of the cyberattacks, they are more or less directed toward civil society institutions

they tried to get into data mining and pattern analysis and before the edward snowden revelation they were shot down as creating an orwellian system. now it's hodge pock. talk about aseptember mitt trick warfare, talk about creating technological surprise, whatever that means. they do very good work today. the biggest push back from the book is not -- it's front current darpa, they want to believe what they do is good. they fund good science and technology but a become irrelevant in many ways to either the white house or to senior pentagon leaders. the problem with that is that it becomes very easy, if you have one major screwup, which all agencies do, for people to kind of swoop in and take your bug, they are very much a solution in search of a problem these days. that's their challenge going forward. >> turning now to questions from the audience. please raise your hand and we'll gate microphone close to you. please, ma'am. >> i don't need one, you you do for television. >> right. first, thank you all for a fascinating discussion. my question is for sharon and i don't even really kno

at the topic of much debate after edward snowden's revelations. this new legislation in congress. their continued debates that if there are two major cases involving this. one of him involved electronic surveillance on the other the fourth amendment. it's a hotly debated topic. at the court and in our political system. a >> we need to spend time on the fourth amendment. i'll put the language of it on the screen. the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects under unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated. and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause. supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be search and the persons or things to be seized. so jeffrey rosen, that's a history lesson. what were the founders thinking? what gave rise to this amendment? a statement chief justice roberts has quoted this each of james otis in 1763 denouncing this. john adams said, at that moment, the child revolution was born. at that's how important the historical stories is. this allowed the kings agents to brea

be similarly out of the blue putting google in the middle of things, right >> you see after edward snowden'sge in user behavior. people were weary to search on google that really hurt google, and, yeah, if users freak out about what google knows about them, it could be bad for google. >> google is an advertising-driven model like we talk about facebook and that's why there's so much focus on whether that holes up, so youtube as an example, advertisers, i don't know about users, but on the advertising side, they don't want videos to be for a terrorism ad or anything like that facing pressure from the advertiser and users, right? >> yeah. i think it would take a lot for advertisers to change. they arehappy with the product google's giving them, but if there was a big outcry, this could change behavior maybe, advertiser behavior. i'm more nervous about user behavior if they think twice about using a site, that's really, really damaging. >> is it that someone says, hey, i have a new google, if you want to do a search without being tracked, use my tools? >> they already exist. dot, dot, go, for e

the edward snowden's and the government debate about wikileaks, that took all the scrutiny and hit on what big data was doing to our lives in a nefarious way. that was the extent of the debate to the early part of the 20th century. the.com world was getting credit for the arab spring. facebook and twitter help people mobilize. that was a dynamic for a long time. now we are entering into a world where the big ones will ever receive quite that much of a by on just being good and being for the betterment of humanity without any questions being asked. the very last thing i will say, if you want a general overview of ai. darrell's new book which is called the future of work. is partly about the future of work. it's a very nice summary of a lot of these other issues we're talking about today. it's an early plug for your early book my friend. >> all right mike, lunch is on me. i want to think our panel. thank you very much. [ laughter ] >>> this week, facebook ceo will testify before the senate and house committees on facebook's handling on user information and data privacy. on tuesday at 2:

but the edward snowden and government debate about wikileaks that was taking all the scrutiny and hits on what big data was doing to our lives. far east way, extent of the debate through early part of the century. and dot com world was getting credit for the spring. just being good and betterment of humanity with other questions being asked. and very last thing i'll say if you want a general overview of cyber ai read darrell book future of work, and partly about future of work, but nice summary of a lot of these other issues we are talking about today, so early plug for your forth coming book, my friend. >> all right. mike. lunch is on me after that. we are out of time. but i want to thank you all for ta very enlightening conversation. thank you very much. >> tomorrow, president trump goes to michigan for rally in mccomb county. the president is going there in sfeed of speaking at the white house correspondent dinner in washington d.c. which is happening at the same time. c-span will have at 7:00 p.m. eastern. then white house correspondent dinner. this year headliner will be comedian

government at the time in 2013 and it was called off because the russians refuse to hand had over edward snowden't have much cooperation going, even though we were trying our darnedest. now, what's worse is not only do we have no agenda, buts as you just pointed out, this is a really bad signal to be sending. a week ago, we were on together with our allies standing up for our best friend, the united kingdom, against russia for its latest action, trying to assad nate two people on british soil using poison, using a nerve gas and, of course, this was number 15 and 16, i think, of the long list of attempted assassinations on the soil of the united kingdom and on.top of all the things that mike already mentioned. so, you know, we should be standing together with our allies and not inviting russia over the next day, you know, to sort of have a drink with us after they've assaulted, attacked our allies and attacked us. and i should also note president trump is supposed to be meeting today with the baltic countries for baltic day. and the russians, you know, they just can't stop. they announced a missi

that's the whole point of what edward snowden was trying to do and i think he had more faith in humanitylot of people do nowadays. i think he thought the public was going to do more with the information. --ust think people need to had a good point. the more self-aware that you are the better you know yourself better things are going to be and then you try to put that out into the world. going in and out. we will take your point. this story is dominating some front-page headlines in national papers. facebook on wednesday said the data of up to 87 million users may have been improperly shared with a political consulting firm connected to the president during the 2016 election. a figure far higher than the estimated 50 million that had been widely cited since the late was reported last month. 's testify next week in congress. he announced that facebook would offer all its users the same tools and controls required under european privacy rules. they give people more control over how companies use their digital data. is in pennsylvania. independent. go ahead. williams is aong guest and an arb