there are couple, arguable the most significant was over edward snowden and his revelations given tosive electronic secret surveillance operation being conducted by us intelligence, specifically the national security agency. to be brutal, your mantra was published and be damned. you should never, in my view, stop — except in the most exceptional circumstances — stop an editor from publishing. it is not the duty of the state to stop the free exchange of news. but it is the duty of the editor to think carefully before publishing and perhaps consult with those who can tell the editor whether there was a genuine and real—time risk to national security. and we did all that. the ‘damned' bit is that you take the consequences. in the end we ended up publishing from america because the pentagon papers case of 1972 when the edward snowden of his day, a man called daniel ellsberg, told the truth about the vietnam war and the american government tried to stop him and the supreme court said "no, that is not the role of government. the press must be independent from government". who did you consu

because if newspapers refused to publish this material, the next edward snowden willjust release it onat we are fully immersed in the digital era. you even suggest that the news industry as we've known it is fundamentally broken. i'm struggling to understand why you think the internet has changed everything because, after all, one only has to look at the way the media has worked through the 19th and 20th centuries to see that the dissemination of lies and the use of propaganda and manipulative tactics, they're as old as the hills. they haven't come in with the internet. and therefore, the notion that everything has changed in the news industry is broken, is something of an exaggeration, is it not? well, the title of the book is "breaking", not "broken". so i'm not saying it's broken. i'm saying it is breaking, it is under great strain. the reason... well, i hesitate to contradict you, you wrote the book, not me. but there is a quote "by early 2017, news, the thing that helped people understand the world, that oiled the wheels of society, that pollinated communities, that kept people ho

whistleblower edward snowden's twitter age is a simple sentence stating speak not because it is safe but because it is right after a court ruling on thursday you mr snowden along with thomas drake bill biddy and countless other mass surveillance whistleblowers of victims or right yes according to a new ruling by the european court of human rights the mass surveillance carried out by the british intelligence agency the agency g c h q did indeed violate the human rights of europeans from new york city are to strain chavez has more. journalists and civil rights groups scored a victory today against the british government's mass surveillance system europe's top rights court calling the so-called big brother program unlawful and a violation of human rights. we have won a landmark judgement today at the european courts confirming that the mass of aliens practiced by the u.k. government as revealed by edward snowden is on the wall and we have this consistently over the past five years and is a really important victory for people's rights in the u.k. only be clear to the public hearings on g

government as revealed by edward snowden is on the wall and we have argued this consistently over the past five years and is a really important victory for people's rights in the u.k. only be clear to the public hearing only good to see really the american. big brother works and out of those verses the united kingdom the judges ruled five to two that mass interception of phone and internet data violated article eight of the european convention on human rights which guarantees the right to privacy things to inadequate safeguards specifically school eight found that there was a lack of safeguards in over science when it came to selecting the traffic for examination and the subsequent going through thoughts information and the further victory of the court ruled that the program also provided insufficient safeguards in respect of confidential journalistic material violating article ten of the european convention which protects the freedom of expression and information as regards. if there were not enough safeguards when it came to examining the data had been found by the oath or its. jour

the documents that are mostly associated with the name of edward snowden. what were your lessons from that? would that happen today? >> well, one of the lessons, i think there are many. i mean, i think that the lessons and i think there are lessons for protecting sources and for journalists. in my particular circumstance, i was approached by edward snowden and i'm a documentary film maker, and it's a bit more complicated, actually, for the work i do than if you're working for the post or for the n"new york times". i think the government has tried to peel away people doing reporting, first amendment protected reporting. i mean, i think, i mean, there are many journalism students in the room. can i see hands? >> there are some. >> there are some. i think that the biggest advice i would give is that when i was approached, i had a lot of knowledge about digital security and force protection, if you're in this field, you should assume as a baseline that you're going to be targeted. that the information you're receiving will be targeted and you need to learn how

the documents that are mostly associated with the name edward snowden. what we are lessons from that? with that happened -- would that happen today? >> there are many. they are lessons for both protecting sources and for journalists. in my circumstance, i was approached by edward snowden and i am a documentary filmmaker. it is a complicated for the work that i do than if you are working for the post or the new york times. i think the government has tried to peel away people were doing reporting, document three film -- documentary filmmakers or people who are doing independent reporting from the kinds of protections that you have if you are working for established organizations. there are many journalism students in the room. the biggest advice i would give is that, when i was approached, if you are in this field you should assume as a baseline that you will be targeted. the information you are receiving will be targeted and you need to learn how to use digital security tools to protect resources. it will not be enough for you to say i will protect my sou

other kind of things that were shown to be true from the revelations that came from break damp or edward snowden quite frankly whatever miniscule impact that russia or china has it's so small it's either nonexistent or so small as to be irrelevant when it comes to united states elections neither oppose any kind of meaningful significant threat of any kind the actual threat to our elections come from the organizations that benefit from government spending we're talking about teachers' union we're talking about the military industrial complex lobbyists meddle in american elections those people meddle in american elections. next there russian military says syrian terrorists have staged and films a chemical provocation to blame the government the details when we come back. that's. what politicians do something. they put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. for something i want to. watch it like. this is like a really big that. i'm interested always in the why. they should. welcome back to r.t. the russian military has claims that extremists in serio

other kind of things that were shown to be true from the revelations that came from for example edward snowden quite frankly whatever miniscule impact that russia or china has it's so small it's either nonexistent or so small as to be irrelevant when it comes to united states elections neither oppose any kind of meaningful significant threat of any kind the actual threats to our elections come from the organizations that benefit from government spending we're talking about teachers unions we're talking about the military industrial complex lobbyists meddle in american elections those people meddle in american elections. the russian military has claims that extremists in syria's adlib province of stage and film to chemical attack which they intend to blame on president assad's forces moscow says the fighters will send some of the footage to the united nations and say the rest online following the filming on the evening of the same day at a joint meeting between representatives of the white helmet and terrorists. out of the nine videos from the two were proved to be sent to the u.s. and they wil

persons mass of a lens and public data collection may she prevailed by whistleblower edward snowden privacy rights and freedom of expression the european court of human rights has ruled. the court found that there was inadequate independent oversight of the selection search process is involved in the operation furthermore there were no real safeguards of political will to the selection of related communications data for examination even though this data could reveal a great deal about the person's habits and contacts in the first major legal challenge against the massive operation conducted by the ukase g c h q intelligence service fourteen human rights groups including amnesty and big brother watch contested the regulation of investigatory powers act also known as reaper snowden's expose the u.k.'s vast surveillance operation back in two thousand and thirteen he praised the judgment tweeting that for five long years governments have denied that global mass of aliens violates your rights today we want the u.k. government says it will give careful consideration to the findings insisting it h

high tech methods used by british intelligence which were exposed by the american whistleblower edward snowden five years ago the u.k.'s three months to appeal against the ruling for the first time a french president has a knowledge the widespread use of torture by french forces during algeria as war of independence but emmanuel macro stopped short of apologizing about one point five million algerians died during the conflict in the one nine hundred fifty s. and sixty's has more from paris. well this is a very significant statement by emmanuel marco it is the first time that a french president has admitted state responsibility in the death of morris or dan one hundred fifty seven during the algerian war of independence now more so down was a mathematics teacher at the university of algiers he was a communist he was an anti colonial activist and what his widow says is the one evening he was taken away from his home by the french military taken to a prison and then she never saw him again the french military said to her that he had escaped but she never believed them she believed that he had bee

the kind of things that were shown to be true from the revelations that came from for example edward snowden we know that the government our government has been routinely being not entirely forthright with us i think this is most likely to be another example of that kind of dishonesty will donald trump signing the executive order will it put some kind of distance between him and the russia collusion investigation is maybe that what he wants to come from and he said earlier that nothing happened in twenty sixteen he reiterated that again but yet this is now happening. it seems that the media has more than enough time to go after either real or fabricated but however you look at it either nonexistent or very very minor kinds of meddling while they still continue to both ignore a challenge of political parties like the libertarian party as well as the actual kind of evidence and of what's going on overseas at this point the u.s. government has done all it can for example to keep the media away from our military operations so right now we see is the media not covering what it should be covering

other kind of things that were shown to be true from the revelations that came from for example edward snowden quite frankly whatever miniscule impact that russia or china has it's so small it's either nonexistent or so small as to be irrelevant when it comes to united states elections neither oppose any kind of meaningful significant threat of any kind the actual threat to our elections come from the organizations that benefit from government spending we're talking about teachers you were talking about the military industrial complex lobby is metal that american elections those people meddle in american elections. still to come this hour the u.s. and russia look ahead save energy supplies in europe we get a lot of reaction after this break. what holds if you should. put themselves on the line. to get accepted or rejected. so what you want to express. yourself want to. achieve right. that's what you. really want to keep you. interested always in the water. there should be. welcome back to the program the top energy chiefs of the u.s. and russia have met for crunch talks over the north stream t

tech methods used by british intelligence which were exposed by the american the whistleblower edward snowden five years ago the u.k. has three months to appeal against the ruling the court was looking at the secret services intercepts communications and examine dates or only was looking at the secret services can ask through communications data from communications service providers found that there was a lot of safeguards in oversights when it came to selecting the traffic for examination and the subsequent going through that's information and also it found that there were not enough safeguards when it came to examining the data had been found by the authorities now for the first time a french president is of knowledge the widespread use of torture by french forces during our jiri as war of independence but emmanuel mike ross stopped short of apologizing about one point five million algerians died in the conflict in the one nine hundred fifty s. and sixty's that has more from paris. well this is a very significant statement by him at all michael it is the first time that a french president h

criticize high tech methods used by british intelligence that was exposed by american whistleblower edward snowden five years ago the u.k. has three months to appeal the ruling. the court was looking at how the secret services intercepts communications and examine that data and it was looking at how the secret services can pass through communications dates from communications service providers found that there was a lot of safeguards in oversights when it came to selecting the traffic for examination and the subsequent going through that's information and also it found that there were not enough safeguards when it came to examining the data had been found by the authorities. the to russian men accused by version of poisoning a former russian spy and his daughter with a nerve agent so they were just to say it's famous cathedral britain's prime minister has ridiculed the parents on russian t.v. tourism a says that their lies and blatant fabrications are an insult to people's intelligence may barco reports the two men certainly look like the u.k.'s prime suspects in the poisoning of sergei and yulia

high tech methods used by british intelligence that were exposed by the american whistleblower edward snowden five years ago the u.k. has three months to appeal against the ruling. the court was looking at how the secret services intercepted communications and then examine that data and it was looking at how the secret services can ask for communications data from communications service providers found that there was a lack of safeguards and oversights when it came to selecting the traffic for examination and the subsequent going through that's information and also it found that there were not enough safeguards when it came to examining the data that had been found by the authorities thousands of students from mexico's biggest university have been protesting to demand an end to campus violence earlier this month two students from the autonomous university of mexico were seriously injured in an attack and in april three students from western mexico were killed and their bodies dissolved in acid protesters say the attacks on students are a symptom of the surge in violence across mexico meanwhil

and christopher wray and one lady at the cia, are they engaging in the kind of illegal spying edward snowden brought to light in 2013? >> that's a great question. the first time the fbi went to get the fisa application they were denied. because they basically said we are going to spy on taken american citizen on u.s. soil. 98% of fisa applications are made they are approved. but this one was denied. they modified it and now look what they have done to this guy carter page. they went after him, spying on him on u.s. soil as an american citizen is a clear violation. kennedy: they know the most of about him, supposedly he was engage in egregious activity. why hasn't he been indicted. >> if you are the victim after crime, that doesn't make you a criminal. they are trying to monitor someone who will potentially be the victim of a crime. kennedy: if you could fire anyone who is part of this who hasn't been fired yet, who would it be? >> if i only get one choice, rod rosenstein. kennedy: life-threatening floodwaters continue to rise after hurricane florence ravaged the carolinas over the weekend. w

was not joinined by any other judge on e d c circuit and it was in a case that arose out of edward snowden's disclosures in 2013 that the government -- that the nsa had been conducting full surveillance programs of americans phone records. judge kavanaugh dedefended thats constitutiononal. he did that in a couple of ways that are problematic. that the bulk collection program under section 2015 of the patriot act did not even amount to a search under the fourth amendment because it involved collection of americans phone numbers, in essence, as opposed to the content of their call. but in doing so, he relied on a similarly and a 1970's case that involved the supreme court upholding war is collection of an individual criminal suspect's phone records over a a limited period of time for three days, and that is a very different context than a bulk program collecting phone records of millions of americans. he also said that even if the fourth amendment were to apply, the search would be reasonable because claims of national security outweighed the impact on individual americans s priva. amy: can yo

former guardian editor alan rusbridger published the wikileaks revelations and the edward snowden leaksrs now". lots of focus on the new york times, what is it like when you're sitting in the seat and you have to decide whether to run a story like that? in the seat and you have to decide whether to run a story like that7m is very lonely and i can imagine the angst that has gone through the mind of editor. it is a big risk. the risk is it rebounds against the new york times and people don't believe it and it plays into the trump narrative that it is the elite conspiracy of people who don't like me. by! conspiracy of people who don't like me. by i think the content of the content was so extraordinary i can see why they behaved in that way. you say in your book, it is trump's disregard for the truth that reminds people why we need newspapers. but you say social media has created the biggest capability for spreading lies. why is is a force for bad. biggest capability for spreading lies. why is is a force for badm is everything. it is a force for bad and good and it is terrifying you have a

it all goes back to the revelations from the american intelligence whistle—blower edward snowden.nt to the european court of human rights. at the time, the law they were looking at was the when the case crystallised in 2000. that is what the court was looking at. this morning, it has found that essentially the regime under that act of parliament, under the law, breach human rights because it was not sufficiently, the gathering of this data was not sufficiently oversight. so not the principle of collecting data but the execution of it? the government may be breathing a sigh of relief that the court found that having amassed data collection regime that that could be complying with human rights but it is all about the oversight, filtering, the targeting and the old regime was found wanting and breached article eight which is the right to privacy on one hand and also the article ten which is the right to free expression. since then we have had new act and the government points out that that has enhanced protections, in particular what it calls the double lock where if ministers offer

criticize high tech methods used by british intelligence that were exposed by american whistleblower edward snowden five years ago the u.k. is in the process of reviewing its legislation it's been given three months to appeal the court ruling the court was looking at the secret service is intercepted communications and examine that data and he was looking at the secret services can ask for your communications dates for communications service providers found that there was a lot of safeguards in oversights when it came to selecting the traffic or examination and the subsequent going through that's information and also it found that there were not enough safeguards when it came to examining the data had been found by the authorities first prime minister tourism has held a cabinet meeting to discuss how to handle it when the european union without a deal cabinet members agreed to ramp up preparations promising to be ready for all scenarios economists have warned that a no deal breaks that would hurt businesses with a sledgehammer but the chief negotiator michel barnier sounded optimistic saying a deal

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high tech methods used by british intelligence that were exposed by the american whistleblower edward snowden five years ago the u.k. has three months to appeal against the ruling. the court was looking at how the secret service is intercepted communications and then examine that data and it was looking at how the secret services can ask for a communications dates from communications service providers found that there was a lot of safeguards in oversights when it came to selecting the traffic for examination and the subsequent going through that's information and also it found that there were not enough safeguards when it came to examining the data that had been found by the authorities. the two russian men accused by the u.k. of poisoning a former russian spy and his daughter with a nerve agent novacek say they were in salzburg just to see the famous cathedral but the u.k.'s prime minister to resign me has ridiculed their appearance on russian state t.v. t.v. mrs may says their lies and blatant fabrications are an insult to people's intelligence knew barca as the story. the two men certainly

i wrote one of the first articles about trailblazer back in 2003 before edward snowden released his documents. and familiar with the story would love to see the report you have. my question has to do with contractors. i wrote this book called spies -- spies for hire, privatization of u.s. intelligence. it has gone much further than it did when i published the book 10 years ago. cyber security is the big issue now, the big industry now, and we rely -- we meaning in a say command -- relies on fire i for strategic decisions like who has been hacking us, north korea. the information was from private contractors doing analysis. >> so they say. what is yourons, stance on how far the contracting has gone? i would like to say something, if i could, about cyber security. leaks, attacks of systems, weaknesses, firewalls, operating systems that they already know and have never fixed. why? because it gives them the ability to look in, and that means we are all vulnerable. when we get attacked, they say we need more money for cyber security. maybe you should stick to the problems you know and we will have

i read one of the articles about thin thread and trailblazer in 2003 before edward snowden released hise of documents. my question had to do again with contractors. i wrote this book called spies for hire. privatization of u.s. intelligence. obviously, it's gone much further than it was when i published this book 10 years ago. but my question to you today i , cyber security is the big issue now. the big industry now. ... >> i believe that is going to bring us to the end of our full program. please give our guests and. [applause] >> and for those of you are able to stick around, join us on the second floor for lunch. thank you. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> later today on c-span two national intelligence dan coats discusses threats to the united states and that is five at 12:3. later lieutenant general samuel greaves director of the missile defense agency and other pentagon officials will gather to discuss space-based missile defense live at 1:30 p.m. eastern on c-span2. >> c-span, where history unfolds a daily. in 1979 c-span was created as a public service by a

i wrote one of the first articles back in 2003 before edward snowden released his trove of documents, so i'm familiar with the story and would love to see the report that you have. my question again has to do with contractors. i wrote this book called "spies for hire," privatization of the u.s. intelligence. and obviously it's gone much further than it was when i published this book ten years ago. but my question to you today is we've -- you know, cybersecurity is the big issue now and the big industry now. and we rely -- we meaning nsa, cyber command relies on major contractors like fire eye for very strategic decisions about who has been, you know, hacking us. like north korea. you know, that whole decision, you go back to it where did the fbi get its information, it's from private contractors doing analysis. >> that's what they say. >> so two questions. one is, you know, what's your sense of, like, how far the contracting has gone now and it's gone out of control -- >> i'd like to say one thing if i could about cyber security. the public of the united states they're swindling us fo

they are now sort of in edward snowden territory. so why don't we all just jump in. >> yeah.different types of connections with russian officials, i think really is something that the fbi focuses on. >> right. >> so when an individual who has these connections is also associated with a political campaign and then there is additional intelligence that indicates that the russians are actively trying to interfere in our election, there's a responsibility, obligation on the part of the bureau to pull those threads, which they've been doing. every time i listen to carter page or other people, i scratch my head trying to figure out exactly what are they trying to do and trying to justify some of their past activities. >> didn't he receive a warning from the intel community about russia? >> again, i'm not going to go into what he might have received from the intel community. >> i think he did, at least it was reported in the papers. >> right. i'm curious what you think is -- you've been around a long time, obviously. what do you think will be the long-term impact this attack on the

edward snowden also said he would do it does was doing things for the good of the people. second, i'm quite concerned about the timing. if this person was appointed and they been doing this for a while , they kind of knew what they were getting into. and we are a month and a half or so away from the midterm elections, that is kind of suspect. , if the president is exhibiting these tendencies as the author states, evidently that tension between his tendencies in the people he has appointed an office must be working. 4% plus gdp growth, great coming up theple chronically unemployed. those numbers are moving. all these numbers are fantastic. and the money supply is opening up quite a bit. even though the interest rates are going up a little bit. we have seen growth in wages. host: jack is next in oklahoma. republican line. i'm one of those people counted out in the middle of america and were you guys are missing our views is we know how to discern people. when trump threw his hat in the ring, i said that can be our next president and i never changed my vote, i said no matter

i don't like edward snowden or bradly managing and reality winner.think starting with snowden, the idea that these 20 something-year-old kid will decide what should be and what shouldn't be in the public rachael, that's not up in to you. if you take something to senator rand paul, the biggest champ on for privacy, this idea of suddenly you're going to dump it and put this stuff out this, don't like that. i also at the same time -- i don't like intrusive spying on -- i don't like the idea that the nsa set up this facility in utah, toe store all the metta data. i would rather see tax breaks given to companies like verizon and sprint ask them to hold on to the met data longer and you have to get a wayne from a -- a warrant from a judge. they've going to mon for phone calls, even if it's a computer monitoring for key word, if there's a key word heat does -- key word hit tells them they can go back and listen to the phone call and are those being recorded? so, i have a concern about this and how certain technology -- i've been fascinated by stuff i've lea

edwards noted. i don't like bradley manning or reality winner. starting with snowden the idea that these 20 something -year-old kids will decide what should be in the public round and what should it is not up for you to decide if it if you think there's that much malfeasance go to rand paul. if you take something that senator rand paul, bigger champion for privacy, this idea that you'll dump it and put all the stuff out there, i don't like that. at the same time, i don't like intrusive spine. i don't like the idea that the nsa is set up a facility in utah to store all the metadata and i'd rather the tax breaks given to companies like verizon and sprint and things like them to hold on to the metadata longer and they have to give it up, you get a warrant from a judge. like the government doing that. if they are going to monitor phone calls even a computer monitoring for keywords if there's a keyword hit, will they listen to the next one calls or does i mean the keyword hit tell them they can go back and listen to the phone call that just happened and are those being rec