in my particular circumstance, i was approached by edward snowden and i'm a documentary filmmaker, and it's a bit more complicated, actually, for the work that i do than if you're working for the "post" or for the "new york times." and i think that the government has tried to peel away people who are doing reporting, first amendment protected reporting, either documentary filmmakers or people who are doing more independent reporting from the kind of protections that maybe you have if you're working for a more establishment organization. i mean, i think, are there many journalism students in the room? >> there are some. >> there are some. i mean, i think that the biggest advice that i would give is that when i was approached, i actually had a lot of knowledge about digital security and that if you're in this field, you should just assume, as a baseline, that you are going to be targeted. that the information that you're receiving will be targeted and that you need to learn how to use digital security tools to be able to protect your sourgss because it's not going to be enough for you ju

what brought edward snowden to do the things he did, he says. whether papers should publish the information or not, famously in england, british police seized hard drives and computers . it didn't happen here, but the tension is there. debate in the obama administration over whether or about theformation alledge program to take on that to take down -- should have been revealed by newspapers. and the question of whether that harmed or helped national security, whether the administration was or was not involved in the disclosure, we prosecuted senior military officials over matters related to that week. in the bush administration, they prosecuted in part because of the leak of an identity of a cia officer. along the way allegedly lied and this issue was brought to the courts. this intention of protecting areonal secrets, which framers understood, was a are framers understood, was a core part of protecting and thinking about the nation, while on the other hand, protecting the right to free speech. remains at the core of our national debate. in an e

anti surveillance activist edward snowden and german chancellor angela merkel last year's winner was the international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons. and we will be bringing you live coverage of the announcement at the top of the next hour to tune in for watching d.w. news see you see you in just few minutes. here's what's coming up for the book is leave you have plenty to talk about here one that it's time to take a look at what all that means for the paper of course. the bundesliga every weekend here on t.w. .

that all this is coming out today about the russians and yet you know go back five years we had edward snowden and his disclosures about all the aggressive attacks the west was perpetrating across europe all the aggressive attacks the britain was perpetrating against e.u. allies and wider as well i mean only last month as well we had the people involved in the brits in negotiations here in brussels accusing the britons of hacking the negotiations the spies hacking the negotiations for advantage and in fact i said at the time that's precisely what british this should be doing in the economic interests of britain so this is what all our spies do this is what they're paid to do and sometimes they get caught and sometimes political hay can be made of it but this is also as well just one final push on not only today in the guardian newspaper in the u.k. we have a report about the industry powers tribe you know which actually holds the british spies to account wiccans are more relaxed now because of the democratic party's continuous efforts to destroy supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh who was ac

national security at risk he isn't the first whistleblower to face the wrath of war thora te's edward snowden chelsea manning are two of the best known in recent years but this case was slightly different terry allbery was charged with the leak of just two documents to the media and retaining another focusing on methods used by the f.b.i. supporters claim the only damage caused was not to national security but the egos of all thora g.'s the u.s. attorney general has made things clear amongst the crackdown on leaks and whistleblowers the risk of exposing perceived wrongdoing and injustice is higher than ever we are conducting perhaps the most aggressive campaign against leaks in department history crimes like the one committed by the defendant in this case will not be tolerated they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and punished and it seems for now whatever the motive alleged racism or spying lawbreaking or corruption whistleblowers call bori will face the tough choice of trusting their conscience or risking everything. what is happening with mr allbery isn't a chilling effe

in people like chelsea manning in jail for life you know organize an award why cheese for four edward snowden this is not a little silly this is the ideology that mearsheimer is criticizing promotes for example. the war in syria and promotes the illegal regime change in in ukraine in two thousand and fourteen because if you look at the liberal gemini in it's really surprising to me that you when you get into an argument with a counter position. of the things i've just mentioned they all have this defacto default position of i mean even liberal person because i'm not going to project my values i mean they can't even they're not even self aware of that ok go ahead right now there's nothing democracy human rights these are all good things but they have to be based on power foundations otherwise this is essentially from the realist mind at least what drives international politics mark mentioned at the realists to some extent been purged out of the discipline from after the cold war and this there were systemic incentives for this of course because during the cold war it made sense to look at thin

national security at risk isn't the first whistleblower to face the wrath of author or tease edward snowden chelsea manning are two of the best known in recent years but this case was slightly different terry allbery was charged with the leak of just two documents to the media and retaining another focusing on methods used by the f.b.i. supporters claim the only damage caused was not to national security but the egos of author of. the u.s. attorney general has made things clear amongst the crackdown on leaks and whistleblowers the risk of exposing perceived wrongdoing and injustice is higher than ever we are conducting perhaps the most aggressive campaign against leaks in department history crimes like the one committed by the defendant in this case will not be tolerated they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and punished and it seems for now whatever the motive alleged racism or spying lawbreaking or corruption whistleblowers call bori will face the tough choice of trusting their conscience or risking everything one thing we've got a workable or the bottom line. or wrong

cia whistleblower edward snowden now taking refuge in moscow heywood was tony blair's principle private secretary it was he who was questioned over delays to the iraq inquiry because of the alleged cover up of blair bush meeting minutes tony benn on this program in what would be his final t.v. interview alluded to it when accusing heywood's boss monty did with committing war crime in a question about that world war crime i think what happened was he gave a private you sure to bush the bush wanted to attack iraq you would support team and i think that may have influenced bush. to go to war because you thought he'd be thrown have written on my butt hey. woods' role in maybe one million dead was not questioned this week by ben's project a labor leader jeremy corbyn who had this to say about jeremy hayward i do join the prime minister in thank you the former head of the civil service jeremy how he would for his public service wish him well in his recovery and i have to say in my conversations with him what an impressive well informed and dedicated public servant he is now and what had brita

customers now again these companies deny it this is the interesting thing is usually so like when edward snowden revealed all the data about the n.s.a. and working with certain corporations and telecom companies they they all issued vague miles very very vague nothing specific and. any lawyer could see that they had all sorts of get out clauses especially that they were under n.s.a. gag order is what apple has denied that there are under any gag order amazon the same so what they hear is the follow up the big hack statements from amazon apple super micro and chinese government amazon said it's untrue that a w.-s. knew about a supply chain compromised an issue with malicious chips or hardware modifications when acquiring the elemental it's also untrue that a w.-s. knew about service containing malicious chips or modifications and data centers based in china or the works with the f.b.i. to investigate or provide data about malicious hardware apple gets even more specific and. i mean china is in the software it's in the hardware as opposed to this show called threat from russia where there. spreadi

intelligence officer turned whistleblower edward snowden the prize is worth nine million swedish kronor that's around a million u.s. dollars beatrice finn is executive director of international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons that's the organization that won the nobel peace prize last year. it made a enormous difference for us this is an issue that doesn't get enough detention and it really strengthen our ability to raise awareness of nuclear weapons their catastrophic humanitarian impact and the treaty on the prohibition of nuclear weapons that was just adopted last year so it really led to a lot more pressure on states meant that we could mobilize the public much more and get governments to join this treaty we were nominated but that doesn't always mean very much a lot of different individuals and organizations are nominated so it was quite a surprise when we received the call but of course we knew that we had had a very. very big year and we had just concluded the treaty of the prohibition on nuclear weapons but it is something that you can just dream of actually happening the th

and the warrantless wiretapping and all of that we were told you know once the edward snowden stuff came out once once it was you know obviously thomas drake was in our book he started that whole thing but once it was definitively proven. public and the documents were available to see the n.s.a. is listening to all of us collecting all the metadata they try to justify by saying well had we been doing this before nine eleven we could have stopped and that's a huge law and we go into that we explore that the book the fact is when khalid almihdhar and nawaf alhazmi came to the united states they then moved down to san diego where they had a phone that was in the la paz mizo name and multiple times they called yemen a house in sana'a yemen that was an al qaeda switchboard you couldn't call directly to afghanistan so in order to get information to afghanistan out they used this house and yemen and it was a house owned by khalid almihdhar father in law who happened to be a top lieutenant of bin ladin's who is his good friend from their mujahedeen days and so the n.s.a. and the cia were monitor

intelligence officer turned whistleblower edward snowden the prize is worth nine million swedish kronor this year and that's around a million u.s. dollars right we can speak to beatrice finn who's executive director of international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons the organization that actually won the prize last year she's joining us live now from geneva thank you for talking to us what difference did winning the nobel peace prize make to your organization and indeed to your cause. thank you very much for having me it made enormous difference for us this is an issue that doesn't get enough to tension and it really strengthen our ability to raise awareness of nuclear weapons their catastrophic humanitarian impact and the treaty on the prohibition of nuclear weapons that was just adopted last year so it really led to a lot more pressure on states meant that we could mobilize the public much more and get governments to join this treaty and did you have any idea i think back this time last year did you have any idea any inkling that your organization would be the lucky winners of the p

because edward snowden german chancellor angela merkel last year's winner was the international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons. and we will be bringing you live coverage of the announcement at the top of the next hour or two to me watching d.w. news see you see you in just a few minutes. i . hear what's coming up for the bundesliga plenty to talk about here. is how to take a look at what all that means for the table of course. the bundesliga every weekend here on t.w. . dolphins are intelligent social creatures. although hunting them is illegal throughout most of the world huge numbers are killed as a byproduct of the fishing industry these images prompted worldwide bans of this fishing method but it still exists and was recently certified sustainable with an eco label the m.s.c. we all want the same thing we want to see healthy productive oceans and we want to see secret supply say caught it could this in future generations. sharks are also under threat. millions of them are killed for their fins for shark fin soup. will that soon have the embassies stamp of approval to. the embass

the documents by edward snowden shows the u.s.ware manipulation, but it takes a different form. the u.s. is no longer the dominant manufacturer based for i.t. equipment, so what the nsa does, they have gotten very good at interdiction, intercepting the shipments from one place to another and modifying the firmware. the advantage china has is that it owns the manufacturing and the assembly base for globalized computer equipment. the chinese intelligence get very can in theory good at moderating hardware at the factory level. that is a real big advantage that officials pointed out. briefly, doesery this provide some sort of backstop to the idea that the u.s. should not be using chinese equipment when it comes to telecommunication networks? this presumably backs that idea up. jordan: in a way, it does and doesn't. chinese officials have caused u.s. officials a lot of concern. when it comes to outsourced computer i.t. hard work, test hardware, supermicro is far from the only computer i.t. equipment that makes its equipment in china. v

for military with that's about the extent of the leaks but keep in mind what we know thanks to edward snowden about the vast u.s. security surveillance system it seems highly unlikely that they don't know a lot more than what we're hearing so far atika hang with the latest in washington patty thank you the united nations secretary general antonio terrace has released a statement about the new details that have emerged in this is what he is saying that he is deeply troubled by the confirmation of death and extends his condolences to his family and friends he stresses the need trade prompt a thorough and transparent investigation into the circumstances of the show to his death and full accountability for those responsible as editor of the international interest he joins us now via skype from london so who drives this this this push now samy to actually get to the truth who who or what. i think it's very interesting that you put the question as drive towards the truth i think this case is a drive towards a deal that will be made between the turks the saudis and the us and each one is trying to g

. >> is talking about this on the break, what edward snowden made his revelations he believed he wasepublic from massive government spying. this woman just targeted people that politically she disliked her wanted to embarrass. the immoral defense of what she did. >> harris: always great to have you on the program, thank you. we will be right back. >> harris: it has been a very busy hour, including breaking news. thank you for watching "outnumbered overtime." >> dana: steve mnuchin pulling out of a planned trip to a conference in saudi arabia in the wake of disappearance and suspected murder of jamal khashoggi. hello, everyone. i'm dana perino and this is "the daily briefing." mnuchin's move coming after president trump met this morning with secretary of state mike pompeo, fresh off his trip to saudi arabia and turkey, as to what happened to the washington post columnist. secretary pompeo saying the saudis will cooperate. >> they also assured me

with all the talk we have now a days about cyber intelligence, as jack platt said, edward snowden hade thumb drive out of the building. that's still a human act. so we can talk cyber and hacking all we want, it's still a human game. >> dana: i wish we could have you every day. >> thank for having me on. >> dana: next, who controls a state's ports? why that's turned into a multimillion dollar question that leaves thousands of jobs hanging in the balance. is mealtime a struggle? introducing ore-ida potato pay. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this... ...with this. when kids won't eat dinner, potato pay them to. ore-ida. win at mealtime. your insurance rates skyrocket you could fix it with a pen. potato pay them to. how about using that pen to sign up for new insurance instead? for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ >> tech:

what we hear about, and if you remember to the edward snowden leaks, maybe we're listening to angelae actual tail light phone network and intercept it. now with the internet, there are hundreds and thousands of and millions of switches each of them entry point and you can't secure all those. you can double up online and we have seen stories in the past where even u.s. officials, u.s. ambassador, one was an ambassador to ukraine, are geting their calls intercepted and recorded is and dumped on to the sbrnt. you never know who did the hacking, but that's how it works. we're talking about the president's three cell phones, that's what's going on as well. . is. >> he clearly knows he gets the warning. he did an interview with the "wall street journal" last week and talking about receiving an intelligence report on the saudi investigation. here's what he said in response to a question about saudis. they have a lot of information. i actually said don't give it to me on the phone. i don't want it on the phone. as good as these phones are supposed to be. he's doing it any way. presidents hat

fifteen should the tale prove to be true it could be the greatest unveiling of text spying since edward snowden. was in are strongly deny the allegations. according to us magazine bloomberg business week apple and amazon discovered minute spying chips in the service back in two thousand and fifteen these chips were allegedly added to motherboards by chinese supply is they allowed back door access to company's service the report says a special department of the chinese people's liberation army is behind the hack what's new is that instead of using manipulation software they've attacked the hardware directly a software solution can easily be fixed with a patch so i mean if you look at what kind of like a metaphor it's kind of like you know an infiltrator would have the keys to the castle but having a with a software update you can change the locks quite quickly now a chip would give you a much more in-depth x. as a lot of the experts that we've been reading so far been saying it's giving them almost god like access to these companies networks which of course is of great concern for them the u.s.

the same people who celebrate edward snowden as a hero because he fought against the man and revealed horrible information on campus don't want to fight against the man and want the man to protect them against things that make them uncomfortable and worry them and concern them because god forbid we talk about controversial things or hurt people's feelings. it's a real problem. that has driven me in some ways to -- while i am a strong defender of national security, to also join the board of directors litigating against speech campus. these are tensions in my own life literally. i live that tension in my own head on a daily basis. >> why don't we open it up to questions. we have lots of hands. just introduce yourself real quick and keep it concise and in the form of a question. go ahead. why don't we start with the woman in the back here. >> hi. i'm rachel bernard. we talked a lot about the role of the public sector in terms of maintaining free speech and how we deal with that had. i'd like to look at the role of some private sector organizations. recently it came out that the myanmar g

i think things fell apart during edward snowden, the relationship between government and the internetpanies when they felt betrayed and at the same time they were part of it, and then it proceeded to the encryption debate around apple and now this particular administration is very hostile to tech companies, and yet nothing is being done to rein in the problems of them. there's no chief technology officer, no chief science officer. >> right. >> there's no interest in anything except excessive tweeting. so talk a little bit about that, what you were talking about the solution. >> yeah. there's no cyber coordinator in the white house anymore. >> exactly. >> that position was eliminated which is remarkable. i think we need to take a step back and face some hard truths that we haven't been really willing and i consider myself, you know, part of the problem because i was there when we were making the original internet policies and i think we all thought that the internet was naturally going to be good for democracy. in the early days it really was, right. it was a voice for the voiceless an