presenter telling the world not even to be surprised by revelations from former cia contractor edward snowden now in moscow for safety it's not a huge surprise that the u.s. military is engaged in off fans of cyber attacks yes but the usa is not just offensively hacking countries it is involved in full spectrum surveillance as revealed by edward snowden arguably making accusations against chinese companies like wall way even more risible joining me now via skype from the british colony of them you there is guinness world record holder jim rogers he founded the quantum funded george soros and is the author of a bull in china investing profitably in the world's greatest market jim welcome to going underground so you've said trump is making china great again do you think something chinese communist party officials a law fing at the latest sanctions against weiwei well trump called out of the trans-pacific partnership and the chinese looked around and said well that means we're the only ones left so they can take over asia now. maybe that's what mr trump is thinking make america great but it's do

presenter telling the world not even to be surprised by revelations from former cia contractor edward snowden now in moscow for safety it's not a huge surprise that the u.s. military is engaged in off fans of cyber attacks yes but the usa is not just offensively hacking countries it is involved in full spectrum surveillance as revealed by edward snowden arguably making accusations against chinese companies like while way even more risible joining me now via skype from the british colony of them you there is guinness world record holder jim rogers he founded the quantum fund with george soros and is the author of a bull in china investing profitably in the world's greatest market jim welcome to going underground so you've said trump is making china great again do you think something chinese communist party officials a law fing at the latest sanctions against weiwei well trump called out of the trans-pacific partnership and the chinese looked around and said well that means we're the only ones left so they can take over asia now. maybe that's what mr trump is thinking make america great but it'

brian: did the students protest edward snowden at all? prof. stanger: no. brian: why is that, you think? prof. stanger: it is pretty straightforward. most college campuses are leaning left. in some sense those terms left and right don't mean anything today, but they are voting democratic. a republican scholar is controversial to them. which is unfortunate because the republican party is the other major party and the united states, but that is what it is. it is very important, even though my students know i am a democrat, it is all the more important to engage with someone like charles murray because it shows that i agree with free and fair speech. which you have to have for liberal education to take place. brian: i looked up the ethnic population in vermont and found that there are 2.5% african americans in the state and in bury ity of middle is almost nonexistent. what does that do for the topic you are discussing? prof. stanger: vermont is one of the whitest states in the union. and middlebury is bringing in students from a vast array of different backgro

it is the same place two weeks later in which i interviewed edward snowden.an: and the format of the evening, how did that come about? prof. stanger: it was restricted to students only, so you have to have a middlebury id to be admitted into the lecture hall. there were outside agitators, but they were not inside the lecture hall. so what you are seeing inside the lecture hall is all middlebury students. brian: let's just look at this and get a feel for it. [chanting] >> charles murray, go away! racist, sexist, anti-gay. charles murphy, go away! racist, sexist, anti-gay. charles murphy, go away! racist, sexist, anti-gay. brian: charles murray, go away, racist, sexist, anti-gay. is any of that true? and didn't his daughter go to middlebury? prof. stanger: his daughter went to middlebury, and i would not use any of those terms to describe that man. brian: why were the students doing that? prof. stanger: it was a tragedy. there were students who wanted to shut the speech down, and there were allies wanted to be supportive. i know student after student who went t

presenter telling the world not even to be surprised by revelations from former cia contractor edward snowden now in moscow for safety it's not a huge surprise that the u.s. military is engaged in our fence of cyber attacks.

and julian a song which along with chelsea manning and edward snowden and the other whistle blows down the years of the heroes who helped us to gain some of the knowledge that the powers that be would keep secret if they could this is in countries that call themselves democracies where the government is supposed to be for the people not for the corporations not for donald trump not for the abrams not for my pants not for pompeo not for the rest of those rabbit down a moles who are in charge of everything but food we the people just to be clear obviously so we can lease doesn't sue was obviously that there were never any charges in sweden just allegations but you call him a journalist why do you think so many journalists are attacking julian a surgeon is it a coincidence that those journalists often like the european union in the jump administration also say support the overthrow of the venezuelan government there's a intersection why journalists attacking shootin and saying he's not a journalist why does so many journalists buy the narrative if that in venezuela which you just mentione

about doctor and what you've done with doctor because it may be a stretch but i don't know with edward snowden and his. revelations about mess of a let's come into your 2. dr levy as he was my treatment it was a treatment a by a very very. articulate very clear german writer called philip. how mo. and he had this idea of making a modern version of just i think he called of the 2nd book of follows i didn't even know the 1st one really because a complicated had to read but the main thing is you it it is of how you sell your soul to achieve something which before was totally a dream i've achieved or bow desirable. that your life is less without this things who you saw as we all do we sell our souls yourself yet i don't buy that as one thing i've never done i've never sold my soul never why i don't work that much i reject easy shaadi a simple idiot. kind of expressions of the movies the 1st obviously makes the pact with the devil too good his words are low which version. you have this is good his version. so that he would have eternal life every kind of wonderful exotic food or drink and then he's

doctor and what you've done with doctor is because it may be a stretch but i don't know with edward snowden and his. revelations about mess of a let's come into your treatment of doctor he was my treatment it was a creep meant a by a very very. articulate very clever german writer called philip. how mo. and he had this idea of making a modern version of. i think he called of the you know the 2nd. book of files i didn't even know the 1st one with it was very complicated to read but the main thing is you it it is of how you sell your soul to achieve something which before was totally a dream i've achieved robo desirable that your life is less without this things who you so as we all do we sell our souls yourself then i don't buy that as one thing i've never done i have never sold my soul never so i don't work that much i reject easy shoddy a simple idiot. kind of expressions of are there of movies for our stories he makes the pact with the devil too good as version or which version this is it is good to hear this is good his version mates have packed so that he would have eternal life had eve

. >> think about edward snowden and the nsa. insiders don't understand the protocol who are most able to reach the protocol and this is the ubiquitous part of our data live. they will be constantly people whether state actors and nonstate actors rogue actors criminals for a guy who once obtain that they then utilize it for-profit. companies are in this continual arms race of we have to protect our data and have two-factor identification nor i.d.s that are harder to replicate but we are going to be reporting and talking about these stories the same way we talk about bank robberies in train robberies in the 1890s. david: we went after those criminals. she gets 30, 40. throw the book at this one. this is a true crime in and you are right it is an arms race. amazon capitol one in the credit card companies do an admirable job in trying to not only protect your data but make it right if -- every time a hack like this occurs it's bullish for bitcoin and gold to bake assets that can't be hacked. >> the strongest group in the market of t

people die if they report that stuff so that standpoint but what it goes back to is the leak s by edward snowden other things to where the nsa was actually into some of the cables that google and facebook had and they were intercepting this traffic for national security reasons. that's what causes contention between silicon valley and the government to say hey, stay out of our data centers now with a level of inscription, it's harder and harder for our government to lawfully intercept communications as it is but to put china in the mix is a bridge too far. >> morgan, i mean, i think you've been great what you've been saying is really resonating i had a different perspective coming in because i always think like this type of infrastructure which is so good for the u.s. to lay all of this new fiberoptics and have literally the ability to change speed on the flip side i'm hearing what you're saying. this must have gone through an intense process and now they could just block it easily and the doj is one of the agencies. how did this all get through or why isn't this being retracted? we've seen deal

it was literally six years ago this month, that an nsa contract whistleblower by the name of edward snowden, burst upon the world scene with his absolutely amazing revelations. about mass government survey blades and being taken place on the so-called war on terror error. dozens of not hundreds of stories on snowden and his risen revelation that out from the 2013, and continuing to that talk about that specific day. that's all been about electronic surveillance. in terms of the listening variety. our cell phone conversations, our text messages and things of that nature. our guest today, brings us but maybe as scary or even scarier technological news which is the tom cruise minority report scenario is not exactly so far fetched anymore. in fact the technology we are going to talk about is actually inspired by a different movie which i won't steal his thunder on. let me introduce our guests. over here in the far right is our guest today arthur hall and michelle was a journalist researcher and founder and codirector of the center of the drone bar college and arthur is written for us news, fast