. >> again, that was edward snowdon appearing yesterday at the south by southwest festival in austin, texas. our guest was there on stage as well. what do you think happens to have were snowdon from here on out? >> that depends a lot on the u.s. government. i know that he wants to come back to the united states. he is an american citizen. he loves his country. there are some things that are out of his control right now. you know, he really wants to kick start a debate in this country. that debate has happened. the president has appointed to independent reviews that have recommended many sweeping changes. the president has even said that he will make some of those happen. you know, and bird wanted the public to be brought into the loop to find out what was being done in their name. i think, you know, in that regard he has been really successful. that does not mean that our job is done. we now need to rein in the nsa and make sure that the foreign intelligence surveillance court started doing his job and stop issuing secret reinterpretations of the constitution behind closed doors. you