vestar with pulitzer prize winner edward wilson. >> yes. ed wilson has won the pulitzer prize twice for books. he has written a book called the meaning of human existence with 15 sa's car really examining how he came to be in the challenges of human existence in the future. he says, we passed a line on which natural selection of babies has ended and that we are designing our own children. he examines the genetic implications for this. in another piece he examines what it would be like if they're really were and et, and extra terrestrial. he talks about the ending of biodiversity, the challenges to the environment. so it is a work of very thoreau- like meditation all scientific based essays. >> another author you have coming out this fall. >> a physician in north carolina. this is his second work. his first book was a collection of fiction short stories. this is non-fiction. it is a 11 shorts stories about being a doctor, the challenges of our residents. he is a great doctor. he trained many. he gave up riding in order to practice medicine.

jane harman, director and president of the wilson center, discussed edward snowden and cyber legislation. here is more. >>. with edward snowden. i thought his interview the other night was extremely revealing. his incredible, personal arrogance and misguided approach to all this, there is no real evidence. it would have been nice if the nsa had been able to put out this e-mail chain, this pathetic little e-mail chain earlier, but at any rate, it is out. his actions moving first to china and in russia, whatever they may turn out to be, claiming that none of his material was exploited passes the laugh test. i keep cringing every time somebody talks about the balance between security and liberty. i think we either protect civil liberty and security at the same time are we have neither of those things. as we think forward to what we should do in this country and how we should collaborate with others, we need to keep that in mind.3 the cyber legislation that congress is not passing has to include a requirement for the private sector to share and then indemnification to the private sector if t

wilson center. newt gingrich, house speaker between '95hand 99. rona fruhar assistant managing editor for "time" magazine and our own chuck todd. i want to talk about edwarden. it's been such an interesting conversation for the country. and we wanted to know just about how his own words speaking to the public might have changed views, and, chuck, you did some new polling around this to gauge people's attitudes. let's look at some of the findings that you put together. >> yeah, let's do. new polling we conducted before and after snowden's interview that we are revealing for the first time here shows at least for now his appearance does not seem to have changed many minds. more americans disagree with snowden's decision to leak nsa documents than agree. that number essentially unchanged from a january 2014 nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. when it comes to snowden himself, 27% of those surveyed have an unfavorable opinion of him, while only 13% view him positively, but note the age gap. when it was limited to 18 to 34-year-olds, the numbers nearly flip. 32% view snowden positively, 20% negatively. and that younger support may be reflective in the shift o