edwin lyman, your assessment of the iaea report, can a nuclear disaster be averted?>> the iaea does not usually use such strong language, so i think it is important to take notice when they do. there warnings are pretty clear. unless the fighting stops, unless there shelling around and on the plant site stops and allows workers to restore the backup power systems that are now all disabled, than the plant is really skating on thin ice and it is very unstable. there is a great concern here. nermeen: olexi pasyuk, could you respond to the iaea report? your response to their assessment of the situation at the nuclear power plant? >> first of all, weeed to understand the nature of the iaea. there are a lot of expectations [indiscernible] i personally did not expect much with the power plant because just the fact the russian army is enough to bring this concern. [indiscernible] this is what ukraine wanted to hear to get the confirmation that russia intervened and the idea that the only way to have it safe is to demilitarized the area. nermeen: give us some background. rush

that is how i'll defeat active. edwin lyman is director of nuclear power safety if the union of concerned scientists. he joins us from washington dc. good to have you with us, edwin. despite all the volatility on the ground, the inspectors have arrived to the plant from your vantage point, how dangerous is the situation now and how concerned must the i ab? unfortunately, the situation seems as dangerous as ever. it's very disappointing that the 2 warring sides were unable to create the conditions where this i 18 to travel to the planet without being exposed to a mortar, fire, and machine gun fire. and that doesn't really bode well for any potential for creating a demilitarized zone around the plant that would have any real permanence or effectiveness. so it, it's discouraging t at all right. it, despite all the dangers you just talked about, despite the fact that you are discouraged over all, are you in any way encouraged by the fact that the i e t i 8 team actually arrived there on the ground and you feel that they will be able to accomplish enough to truly the escalate the situation get

there is how i'll defeat active. edwin lyman is director of nuclear power safety at the union of concerned scientists. he says the i e is mission is crucial, but suspects it may not be long enough. i think this mission is very important. i just to have the ability of a 3rd party, relatively impartial group, assessing what's going on was very important. unfortunately, of the main part of the mission only seem to have lasted a few hours. there are a about 5 i. e, a, inspectors still there for a few days and there may be an enduring presence after that, but to really get a sense of all the potential damage in the state of the equipment and the state of mind of the workers there that seem really need to be there longer and to have more expensive inspection the reactors themselves are under reinforced concrete containment building. so they have some level of protection, but they are vulnerable to it, to damage to other parts of the plans that are not as well protected primarily the off site on a power source as well as the emergency on site power sources. these are not as well protected as we'v