have done pretty well in their later careers, representative ryan is now speaker of the house, edwin muskie lost and 68, he became secretary of state. so you have able people who have opportunities. but the calculation of how likely the ticket is to be successful and how you feel about working with the person at the top of the ticket, it is very much a personal relationship. the last six vice presidents have been able to achieve a very good personal relationships, but if the person personal relationship go south early on it is not going to be very fun for years for either principle. so the people have to really work at it as well. i think you need to take that and decide if you want to put your name forward. >> with that, we will wrap up today. we want to thank the members of our working group, selecting a vice president for candidate, it really candidate, it really is advice for the candidates out there now as well as information for the media who is covering it. we think the group, we think you and the audience a close the session here. [applause]. >> tonight on c-span two, legal analyst