but the handbook doesn't tell her, if you complain to the eeoc about discrimination, then you will be fired. mr. laycock: well, i don't know if it does or it doesn't, because the handbook is not in the record except for a short excerpt. but she knew about this rule. justice alito: well, mr. laycock, could you -- justice breyer: i'm looking for a citation in the record? i just wonder, is there anything you want me to read other than page ? mr. laycock: yes. the principal in her deposition says: the minute she said she might sue, i said you can't do that; you're a called teacher. the testimony is the board talked about it at their meeting on february nd. i think that's also in the principal's deposition. the president of the congregation, who did not deal directly with perich, said -- said it was one of the first things that he thought about. perich was a lifelong lutheran. she worked years in lutheran schools. she had these eight theology courses. simply not credible that she didn't know about this doctrine. justice alito: mr. laycock, doesn't this inquiry illustrate the problems that

the eeoc. mr. laycock? >> mr.chief justice and may it please the court, the churches do not set the criteria for selecting or removed the offices of government, and imoft does not set the criteria for selecting and removing officers of the church. that's a bedrock principle, and these respondents would repudiate it. they no longer seriously argue that cheryl was not a minister. instead, they argue even people who are indisputably ministers can suture. s that turn claim -- >> would you clarify one point? you say the truth decides who's qualified to be a minister, but as i understand the facts here she was never decommissioned as a minister. and beyond that she was even recommended by the officials to other parishes to be a commissioned minister. so it's odd to say there's any interferences with who is qualified to be a minister because the church was holding her out as being confidence. >> she was removed from my industry at hosanna-tabor. they do not have to indulge -- [inaudible] and if you look at that recommend

she was employed at the eeoc. that led to her testimony on the supreme court confirmation hearings of clarence thomas 20 years ago. her newest book is called "reimagining equality, stories of gender, race, and finding home." good to have you back on this program. we were talking before you came on the air. with the advent of the internet and 24 hour cable news, stuff never seems to rest. it never seems to go away. it doesn't ever seen as long as it has been, at least for me, because there is always a passing reference or something that harkens back to whatever the historic moment is. i say all that to ask whether it seems like 20 years for you. >> sometimes it seems like 20 years. when you are living in every day, of course, you live those 20 years, but sometimes it seems like yesterday. i think it is the media coverage of it in combination with -- i hear from people regularly who say, "i remember where i was when those hearings occurred, and i remember how i felt." i think that is what brings it back to us and ma

he doesn't know a lot about foreign policy and his big line is those guys in washington -- >> bill: eeoc could hire guys who -- he could hire guys who could tell him. >> he says you guys in washington have experience how is that working out to for you and the audience goes crazy. >> i think romney is not an inevans visitable choice. what has the entire race been about. the search for the nonromney. tim pawlenty never could be it. bachmann was the nonromney for a little while. perry, everyone wanted him to be that guy and when did not perform national debates, herman cain got the surge out of that even in the south where perry should be performing well. that is the surge to nominate whoever is next in line and move on toping th to to openina to somebody who is a bit less personned experienced. he has to be able to answer questions in depth about 99 and who his advisors are and will be and what the policies will be. he will get fire coming up because he is in the lead. >> bill: don't you think that barack obama would preterritories to run against herman cain than mitt romney? >> i think th

they told the attorney general about it and eeoc and huswife -- i can't emergency read that memo anday this sounds like a sensible approach to dealing with dangerous weapons. >>> later, dennis miller on whether americans have become soft. also, the hank williams' situation. those reports, after these messages. there's only one bottle left ! i've got to tell susie ! the vending machine on elm is almost empty. i'm on it, boss. new pony sorry ! we are open for business. let's reroute greg to fresno. growing businesses use machine-to-machine technology from verizon wireless. susie ! the nding machine... already filled. cool bike. because the busine with the best technologyules. accept it. you can't change the way banking works. just accept it, man. free ? doesn't close at five ? try nature. you give them all your money, and they put you on hold. just accept it. what are you going to do, bury your money in the backyard ? accept it. it's only money. it's a bank. what do you want, a hug ? hidden fees, fine print, or they'll stick it to you some other way. smile and accept it. it's been this

testimony as you'll recall i testified about behavior that took place while thomas was chair of the eeock -- the equal employment opportunity commission. >> he was as the chair charged with enforcing enforcing sexual harassment laws and i believe what i said in those hearings reflected on his integrity and his respect for the law and its application to everyone including himself. >> how is it to live with this, this history? you are now part of history. you have been for 20 years. do you get past that just personally? >> on a day-to-day basis, i don't experience it sort of in visible ways as i have in the last few days. i turned on the tv the other day and there i was on history tv a picture of me 35-year-old me 20 years ago. so that doesn't happen every day. but you know what i do get regularly that reminds me how important that moment was for so many people what i get probably once a week or routinely, are letters and e-mails from individuals saying specifically what the hearings meant to them. and that reminds me not only that it was important then that that it is important now and th

employer could fire without recourse any employee who called noncompliance to the attention of the eeoc. we believe that -- that you can trust to congress on these hard areas where there needs to be additional accommodations; congress could make them, just as justice scalia suggested. in almost every circuit, it does not apply to teachers. >> does it not date the enactment of the veterans with disabilities act -- americans with disabilities act? it would continue to apply to the ada as it does to title 7. >> it did not apply as sweepingly as two teachers. we had this debate with justice breyer over whether you say that congress excluded retaliation cases. but it was at a time when this court had a position that religious organizations could not participate in getting public funding even when they were providing remedial services to low-income students. we repeated that doctrine -- repudiated that doctrine. you should comply in some instances with the same rules. when you leave it to be read into -- >> do catholic schools and parochial schools share the public funds the same way that the

they told the attorney general about it and eeoc and huswife -- i can't emergency read that memo and say this sounds like a sensible approach to dealing with dangerous weapons. >>> later, dennis miller on whether americans have become soft. also, the hank williams' situation. those reports, after these messages. there's only one bottle left ! i've got to tell susie ! the vending machine on elm is almost empty. i'm on it, boss. new pony sorry ! we are open for business. let's reroute greg to fresno. growing businesses use machine-to-machine technology from verizon wireless. susie ! the nding machine... already filled. cool bike. because the busine with the best technologyules. >> bill: if you follow the political polls you may be getting very confused. i know i am. earlier this week had we an abc poll which showed mitt romney leading the pact by 25%. and then just ahead cb sacramento says romney and cain tied at 17% and about perry at 12. is going on? mr. pollster himself, dick morris. you have an insight. >> yeah. >> bill: to jay carney and the fast and furious. >> yes. >> what is th

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they've also indicated they are going to file a complaint of the eeoc of religious discrimination and national labor relations board, claiming unfair labor practices. i think this will be litigated on variation fronts, but the question remains, were they fired because of their religion, because they needed to take prayer breaks, or were they fired because they didn't adhere to the policy that they had to punch out when they were taking these breaks? so that's really the crucial issue. why were they fired? that's go tock litigated. >> "on the case." sunny hostin, as always, thank you. >>> coming up next -- just weeks after his death, secrets are being revealed about the life of steve jobs. i'll speak with someone who has read the new biography, which hits bookstores today, find out how steve jobs viewed religion, how it played a role in his products and why lsd was at one point or another one of the most important things in this man's life. >>> nearly three weeks after steve jobs died, the apple co-founder and visionary still dominates what's trending online, and no doubt what is feedi

eeoc spent 2spent 20 years in the service before coming to the senate in 2003.e was always a plan. >> when i was eight years of age my mother brought home a record and i played it over and over again until i memorized it. >> chris: it was the senate chaplain, peter marshall. >> then follow him. >> i never walk into this building without a sense of wonder and without a sense that this was my destiny. >> chris: amen. >> praise the lord. >> chris: cap lane black was elected to his post when republicans controlled the senate but has stayed on with democrats in charge. in these days of congressional gridlock he is apparently one of the few things the senate can agree on. we will be right backing with a final word from the texas state history museum here in austin, texas. ♪ [ sighs ] [ bird chirps ] [ bird squawks ] ♪ [ bird screeching ] ♪ [ elevator bell dings ] [ sighs ] how mad is she? she kicked me out. but took the best stuff. i'll get the wrench. ♪ [ male announcer ] kohler's tresham collection. life. with a twist. ♪ >> chris: that is it for today. our thanks to

failure to fill out forms that he was capable of filling out for a few years and when he was head of the eeocut his deliberate failure not to do that on this court, he took an affirmative action there. he marked none. he didn't ignore it or oversee it but said it was something he didn't understand. no supreme court justice should say i cannot understand a legal form. that is one of the main issues that we're looking at. you talk about the underlying issue which you brought up, there are only nine of the justices. i don't believe their family members out of consideration for justice, should be involved in issues that will go before that court. as you point out, that was what she was paid to do. i'm worried about the citizens united case and his vote in that instance. i'm very concerned about what he will do about voting for healthcare. these are issues too that americans are worried about. had we released a statement on our letter on friday morning about 10:00 to huffington post by 4:00 before i got home that afternoon toç rochester, there were over 800,000 people had read that, 17,000 had co

eeoc spent 2spent 20 years in the service before coming to the senate in 2003. black says there was always a plan. >> when i was eight years of age my mother brought home a record and i played it over and over again until i memorized it. >> chris: it was the senate chaplain, peter marshall. >> then follow him. >> i never walk into this building without a sense of wonder and without a sense that this was my destiny. >> chris: amen. >> praise the lord. >> chris: cap lane black was elected to his post when republicans controlled the senate but has stayed on with democrats in charge. in these days of congressional gridlock he is apparently one of the few things the senate can agree on. we will be right backing with a final word from the texas state history museum here in austin, texas. ( phone ringing ) okay... uhh. the bad news, it's probably totaled. the good news is, you don't have to pay your deducble. with vanishing deductible from nationwide insurance, you got $100 off for every year of safe driving, so now your deductible is zero. the other good news ? i held

she came up with this idea in 2000, and the eeoc adopted in 2007. and joan will be speaking with justice ruth bader ginsburg. justice ginsburg has a distinguished career as a law professor herself, appointed in 1918 by president jimmy carter, and to the u.s. court of appeals from the d.c. circuit. she was elevated to the supreme court in 1993 by president bill clinton. please join me in welcoming both john williams and justice ruth page rifkin spurt. -- ruth a. perkins burke. -- bader ginsburg. [applause] >> i want to start by welcoming you, just as concerned. we were talking before this and we realized that she was on law same law faculty as my father and i was in her daughter's law school class. >> and son in laws. >> yes. i wanted to thank you for coming out here. not everyone is willing to jump out of a plan on to an inflatable slide. [applause] >> i will not claim that as part of my journey here, but i had a unique invitation from the hastings law school. i think it was evan lee who said, here is the program for the san francisco opera in septe

eeoc says i would love the opportunity to get on the stage and talk to him about his pollties and how> shannon: you asked him about some of his most recent hires to the campaign and what it may mean for his strategies going forward. >> chris: it is interesting, they were all in the rick scott gubernatorial candidate in florida in 2010 which was a tough negative campaign. i said are you going to go hard against romney. he said look, i'm going to tell the truth and if that hurts people's feelings so be it. i guess the answer is, yes, he will go hard at mitt romney. >> shannon: thank you so much and safe travels. >> chris: thank you so much. good to be here as always, shannon. >> shannon: stay tuned to the fox news channel. "fox news sunday" airs right after our show, a 2:00 and 6:00 eastern. >>> herman cain is defending a web video that got a whole lot of attention. it ends with his campaign manager taking a drag from a cigarette. maybe controversial but has gotten a lot of headlines yes. >> was grilled by the controversial internet ad. the ad has come under fire from antismoking forces

that was john's work, virtually single-handedly she came up with this idea in 2000 eeoc adopted it officially in 2007. joan will be speaking with justice ruth bader ginsburg. justice ginsburg following a distinguished career as a law professor herself was appointed in 1980 by president jimmy carter to the united states court of appeals for the d.c. circuit. she was elevated to the supreme court in 1993 by president bill clinton. so please come and join in welcoming both john williams, professor of law and justice ruth bader ginsburg. [applause] [applause] >> i really want to start by welcoming you, justice ginsburg. justice ginsburg and i were talking before this and we realized that she was on the same law faculty is my father and i was sent her daughter's law school class. [laughter] >> and son-in-law as well. and i want to thank you so much for coming out here. not everyone's willing to jump out of a plane onto inflatable ground. [laughter] [applause] >> i had not planned that is part of my journey here. but i had a unique invitation from hastings law school and it is this way. i think it

and these workers will be filing religious discrimination complaints with the eeoc as well. >> tracyess this morning. switching banks may soon be like switching cell phones. there's a new bill in congress that would make it easier for you to switch banks by allowing you to keep your bank account number when you make the change. it's something a lot of people have thought about doing with so many banks announcing new fees. nearly 1/3 of you are passing up free money, according to a new survey, that says that 30% of employees are not contributing enough to their 401(k) to get the full match from their employer. so make sure you look at the matching terms at your company. you might want to think about rebalancing your 401(k) while you're at it. >>> a record-breaking debut for paranormal activity 3, the latest installment of the horror movie franchise made $54 million at the box office this weekend. that is the best october opening ever. and the best horror debut ever. not bad for a film that cost $5 million to make. >> not my kind of thing. i'm more of a "when harry met sally" kind of a

that was john's work, virtually single-handedly she came up with this idea in 2000 eeoc adopted it officially in 2007. joan will be speaking with justice ruth bader ginsburg. justice ginsburg following a distinguished career as a law professor herself was appointed in 1980 by president jimmy carter to the united states court of appeals for the d.c. circuit. she was elevated to the supreme court in 1993 by president bill clinton. so please come and join in welcoming both john williams, professor of law and justice ruth bader ginsburg. [applause] [applause] >> i really want to start by welcoming you, justice ginsburg. justice ginsburg and i were talking before this and we realized that she was on the same law faculty is my father and i was sent her daughter's law school class. [laughter] >> and son-in-law as well. and i want to thank you so much for coming out here. not everyone's willing to jump out of a plane onto inflatable ground. [laughter] [applause] >> i had not planned that is part of my journey here. but i had a unique invitation from hastings law school and it is this way. i think it

the eeoc adopted in 2007. she will be speaking with ruth bader ginsburg .as appointed in 1980 by president jimmy carter to the united states court of appeals. she was elevated to the supreme court in 1993 by president bill clinton. please join me in welcoming joan williams and justice ruth bader ginsburg. >> i want to start by welcoming you, justice ginsburg. we were talking before this and we realize she was on the same law faculty as my father. i want to thank you so much for coming out here. >> i had a unique invitation from hastings law school. someone said, here is the program for the san francisco opera in september. pick any one and mary will invite you as her guests. we saw a remarkable production of turendot. i highly recommend it. >> i gather you got to the opera considering the that you were late. >> your mother's key message was to be a lady and be independent. for many women, they would not have seen it as a problem if the wife was supported by her husband. did she think differently. >> if a woman works, it was a sign his -- her husband could n