now that we know what that other body is and that 's as a result of a complaint that you brought and eeoc complaint that you brought, inspector lee, correct? >> yes. i have a -- >> you're the one that's invested in having that other commission hear that complaint -- >> he makes it sound like some other police commission hearing. there is a civil service commission hearing that'd deadlocked. they're having a final civil service commission. they're going to be holding it in closed session to make a determination whether there was discrimination or retaliation in this case. >> and that's at your request? they're convening, they're doing that because you filed a complaint with them, sir? >> yeah. i had filed internal department eeo complaints and that matter is still pending before the san francisco civil service commission and i believe they told me the date may be december 2, but they haven't totally confirmed it yet. >> so you did know that december 2 was a possible date for this? >> can you repeat that? >> you did know that december 2 was a possible date for another commission hearing on

the eeoc for example they have to prevent discrimination but is they have to expand the definition of discrimination so now if you don't want to hire people who have been in prison they think that's discrimination. >> host: you write in "intellectuals and race" that the kind of society to which that can lead when you talk about the race industry etc. is one in which a newborn baby injures the world supplied with prepackaged grievances against other babies born on the same day. >> guest: yes, yes. this idea that you can redress history which we have seen in specific contexts in this country, it's around the world. the czechs after the world war one of the goals they had was to address the injustices of the 17th century. nobody from the 17th century was alive that they end of the first world war. they tried to take this out by having policies that would favor the germans and so on and they set in motion a chain of events in which the czechs and the germans were worse off than they have ever been before and both were victims of tragedy trying to undo what happened to people who were now

a good example are the eeoc laws.t is mandated that they put a poster in all of the offices across the united states and it says that we have equal protection, and if we feel like we have a complaint, we could go to the eeoc, but elected officials do not abide. the eeoc does not have jurisdiction over elected officials. unless you are a richer person or man, or a person that has been discriminated against, you are really still a modern-day slave. i would like to see the congress have to follow some of these rules they set in place for us, and i do not see how expanding the congress could help that. now, you have to be a wealthy man or woman to sit in congress, first of all, or you have to have money behind you. i want to know how you would change, and as far as the second amendment goes, our county is putting army tanks in their budget. guest: congress should follow the laws that they passed. that is a pretty basic idea in democracy. when you think of the offices that a lot of the countries -- the cities have, and omb

host: is there any protection under the eeoc?uest: they have helped advance the idea that title vii sex discrimination prohibition does cover transgender people. that is a great step. we have seen federal courts take that position. comprehensive a protection for transient or people in all cases under title vii. that is another reason we need clarity in the law. host: we set up a line for lgbt viewers. (202) 585-3883. keith, palm bay, florida. hello. good morning, guys. i do not understand these laws. they seem more of a feel good thing. when it comes to business, i do not understand why businesses would discriminate against anybody because it hurts their business. -- since they are a private own business, i do not see what is wrong with it. what i do not understand about gay people or anybody else that works for somebody, if the people you're working for do not like you, why do you want to be there anyway? if you're working in a place iat sets you up for failure, do not understand. when you are getting into a career, you want to

it's actually fairly difficult to bring an employment discrimination case and eeoc has plenty of peoplere are not a rush of claims in states where sexual orientation are illegal. people call me up every day. what kind of evidence do you have? do you have an e-mail, a witness? did somebody make a comment? the person would have to prove their story, just as in any case. >> it's nice to see you as always. it's like our old court tv age where you don't age and i do. >> i don't know about that. i'm not afraid of aging. >> thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. >>> all right. in other news that we've been following, we have been watching a lot of surveillance video coming out in this one particular case that has to do with a young man, kendrick johnson, a young man who is no longer with us, found dead, rolled up in a gym mat in a georgia high school. here is the problem. the more video you get when you think you're getting answers, in fact, it's raising more questions on just how this young man died. victor blackwell has been doing a remarkable job at pressing for these ans

in a case called the eeoc vs. kamehameha -- i think it is a hawaii word. my pronunciation may not be correct. it is a 1993 decision. there were two schools created by a charitable trust to help orphans and poor children. the trust instructed and i quote, the teachers shall forever be persons of the protestant religion. the schools shall provide a good education and also instruction in morals. the schools hired only protestant teachers. they held themselves out as protestant schools. they required all the students to take religious classes. they offered bible studies and worship services and they had a cooperative relationship with one specific protestant church. now the district court found the schools were religious and, therefore, they were covered and they qualified for the exemption. but the ninth circuit court, considering the exact same set of facts, found the opposite and stkaoeupded that the schools -- and decided the schools were secular. the ninth circuit decided the school's original principle was providing religious instruction but saoepbgsly r

person really has no recourse under law guest guest -- >> host: is there any profession under the eeocen? >> guest: eeco advanced idea that title 7 sexual discrimination prohibition does in many cases cover transgender people. that's a great step. we've seen some federal courts also take that position but we don't yet have a comprehensive and clear protection for transgender people in all cases, under title 7, that is another reason we very much need clarity in the law and that brings us that. >> host: line for lgbt viewers, 202-583-5883. here is john from north carolina. john, go ahead please. john, are you there? good morning. one more time for john from greensboro, north carolina. let's move on to keith. keith is from palm bay, florida. hello. >> caller: hello, good morning, guys. you know i never really understood these laws. they seem more of a feel good thing. when it cops to business i don't understand why businesses would discriminate bense anybody because it's, it hurts their business. and sales are hiring people or anything but since they are a private-owned business i don't

a good example are the eeoc laws. it is mandated that they put a poster in all of the offices across the united states and it says that we have equal protection, and if we feel like we have a complaint, we could go but elected officials do not abide. oc does not have jurisdiction over elected officials. unless you are a richer person or man, or a person that has been discriminated against, you are really still a modern-day slave. i would like to see the congress have to follow some of these rules they set in place for us, and i do not see how expanding the congress could help that. now, you have to be a wealthy man or woman to sit in congress, first of all, or you have to have money behind you. i want to know how you would propose these things would change, and as far as the second amendment does, our state and county are putting army tanks in your budget, so how do propose a handgun would protect yourself against a rogue government if you needed to be protected? thank you. guest: congress should follow the laws they