also with us tonight is cheer gregory suhr and joyce hicks >> good eerfckening and welcome to the october 14 police commission meeting to everyone who is here to so many faces here and everyone watching at home, welcome. >> item 1, general public comment. the public is welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on toonts agenda but within the subject matter. people shall address the remarks to the commission as whole. under police commission rule order [inaudible] commission are require today respond to questions present bide the public but my provide a brief response. refrain from entering in debates. please limit your comment to 3 minutes. >> any general public comment? no problem. good evening mrs. brown, welcome >> my name is paul etbrown and here once again concerning my son [inaudible] i look a little wild today but that is what happens when you are grieving and going through things. you don't want to spruce up, but i'm concerning my son obru[inaudible] murdered august 14, 2006 [inaudible] to this day still no [inaudible] perpetrators or closure for myself.

also with us tonight is cheer gregory suhr and joyce hicks >> good eerfckening and welcome to the october 14 police commission meeting to everyone who is here to so many faces here and ne everyowatching at home, welcome. >> item 1, general public comment. the public is welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on toonts agenda but within the subject matter. people shall address the remarks to the commission as whole. under police commission rule order [inaudible] commission are require today respond to questions present bide the public but my provide a brief response. refrain from entering in debates. please limit your comment to 3 minutes. >> any general public comment? no problem. good evening mrs. brown, welcome >> my name is paul etbrown and here once again concerning my son [inaudible] i look a little wild today but that is what happens when you are grieving and going through things. you don't want to spruce up, but i'm concerning my son obru[inaudible] murdered august 14, 2006 [inaudible] to this day still no [inaudible] perpetrators or closure for myself.

also with us tonight is cheer gregory suhr and joyce hicks >> good eerfckening and welcome to the october 14 police commission meeting to everyone who is here to so many faces here and everyone watching at home, welcome. >> item 1, general public comment. the public is welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on toonts agenda but within the subject matter. people shall address the remarks to the commission as whole. under police commission rule order [inaudible] commission are require today respond to questions present bide the public but my provide a brief response. refrain from entering in debates. please limit your comment to 3 minutes. >> any general public comment? no problem. good evening mrs. brown, welcome >> my name is paul etbrown and here once again concerning my son [inaudible] i look a little wild today but that is what happens when you are grieving and going through things. you don't want to spruce up, but i'm concerning my son obru[inaudible] murdered august 14, 2006 [inaudible] to this day still no [inaudible] perpetrators or closure for myself.

. >> good eerfcken. [inaudible] walter scott [inaudible] can you tell me your sons name again? i say these names because this isn't a bloodless conversation or policy. you need to be aware what we are diss cussing now. i want to repeat the recommendations-my name is nodia [inaudible] activist with electronic frontier foundation and my office is down the street from here and live in san francisco in the mission district and i see police interacting with the public daily. i want to just first of all say that i agrie where the other suggestions you have gotten, the 2 suggestions there needs to be a clear path for public access to the the video and no review the video before a statement is given when there is a serious incident [inaudible] body camera recommendation policy board this is something we looked at a lot and the fact is body cameras can be a useful tool for accountability but they need to have very strisk policies. striking the balance isn't easy and without policies enplace body cameras can be used for [inaudible] and police cover up. in addition to the concerns about t

also with us tonight is cheer gregory suhr and joyce hicks >> good eerfckening and welcome to the october 14 police commission meeting to everyone who is here to so many faces here and everyone watching at home, welcome. >> item 1, general public comment. the public is welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on toonts agenda but within the subject matter. people shall address the remarks to the commission as whole. under police commission rule order [inaudible] commission are require today respond to questions present bide the public but my provide a brief response. refrain from entering in debates. please limit your comment to 3 minutes. >> any general public comment? no problem. good evening mrs. brown, welcome >> my name is paul etbrown and here once again concerning my son [inaudible] i look a little wild today but that is what happens when you are grieving and going through things. you don't want to spruce up, but i'm concerning my son obru[inaudible] murdered august 14, 2006 [inaudible] to this day still no [inaudible] perpetrators or closure for myself.

also with us tonight is cheer gregory suhr and joyce hicks >> good eerfckening and welcome to the ocr

. >> good eerfcken. [inaudible] walter scott [inaudible] can you tell me your sons name again? i say these names because this isn't a bloodless conversation or policy. you need to be aware what we are diss cussing now. i want to repeat the recommendations-my name is nodia [inaudible] activist with electronic frontier foundation and my office is down the street from here and live in san francisco in the mission district and i see police interacting with the public daily. i want to just first of all say that i agrie where the other suggestions you have gotten, the 2 suggestions there needs to be a clear path for public access to the the video and no review the video before a statement is given when there is a serious incident [inaudible] body camera recommendation policy board this is something we looked at a lot and the fact is body cameras can be a useful tool for accountability but they need to have very strisk policies. striking the balance isn't easy and without policies enplace body cameras can be used for [inaudible] and police cover up. in addition to the concerns about t

also with us tonight is cheer gregory suhr and joyce hicks >> good eerfckening and welcome to the october commission meeting to everyone who is here to so many faces here and everyone watching at home, welcome. >> item 1, general public comment. the public is welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on toonts agenda but within the subject matter. people shall address the remarks to the commission as whole. under police commission rule order [inaudible] commission are require today respond to questions present bide the public but my provide a brief response. refrain from entering in debates. please limit your comment to 3 minutes. >> any general public comment? no problem. good evening mrs. brown, welcome >> my name is paul etbrown and here once again concerning my son [inaudible] i look a little wild today but that is what happens when you are grieving and going through things. you don't want to spruce up, but i'm concerning my son obru[inaudible] murdered august 14, 2006 [inaudible] to this day still no [inaudible] perpetrators or closure for myself. i just wa