by 2011, in only two years, we will have egis ships out there, upwards of 80 they we can move aroundps. then by 2017 and '18, there is a four-step phase to have almost identical capability, long-range up against icbm. what a good move by this president. >> so congressman, you're saying not only is it a good strategic move, but it's also a budget move as well? how big a budget. how much does it save? >> over $4 billion is what we would have put into the system in the czech republic and poland. it's easily less than a billion dollars that is going to have this upgrade of egis ships that already have a missile defense system on them. and second, if i could, this system that we were putting in there, which is going to have the same capability almost on the outside for long range, permits us to deal with russia, to have russia put pressure economically on iran with a hope they'll stop building their nuclear weapon efforts. >> the conservatives are saying we're caving to the russians, that this is a weak move, this isn't a strategic move at all and this is the weak side of the obama admini