i was on a lufthansa flight that was hijacked on the way to egypt back to new york. hijacker was an ethiopian who wanted to crash the plane into wall street. he got a gun through security in frankfurt because he had a hat on and put the gun underneath his hat the inspectors who were using wands and patting them down forgot to look under his hat. it was busy, a rush just like now, christmas rush. you can't stop every attack. he who defends everything defends nothing. flying is still safer than driving. we have 42,000 people a year killed on the roads. as i said, we must encounter a small risk when we travel. events like this will make it harder all the time. >> larry: harry, are you a passenger and something occurs, every passenger is considered a member of the israeli army. >> that's correct. >> larry: should americans and others take action? >> basically they have. since 9/11 i have said the strongest defense we have is an aware flying public. they have stopped every incident since 9/11. they know it is not a trip to cuba, it is death. like the young man and the res

you know, i was on a lufthansa flight that was hijacked on the way to egypt, back to new york. the hijacker was an ethiopian who wanted to crash the plane into wall street. it was a lesson that was forgotten until 2001. but he got a gun through security in frankfurt simply because he had a hat on and he put the gun underneath his hat. and the inspectors who were using wands and patting them down forgot to look under his hat. simple as that. it was busy. it's was a rush just like now, christmas rush. so you can't stop every attack. he who defends everything defends nothing. and we shouldn't be panicked by it. flying is still safer than driving. we have 42,000 people a year killed on the roads in this country. as i said, we must encounter a small risk when you travel. but it's very small. events like this will make it harder all the time. >> larry: harry, if you're a passenger and something occurs, every passenger is considered suddenly a member of the israeli army. they're supposed to take action. >> that's right. >> larry: should americans and others take action? >> well with b

they have become a children's store in egypt. they will tell you. there of 150 million children under the age of 6, think about that. these kids are now being able to benefit from teh hindi show produced in delhi. these are local puppeteers, local educators, local musicians, local educators. it has had a huge effect on these populations. it is supported by a the u.s. agency -- able to leverage private sector support. in south africa, we were able to bring in insurance companies, fully fudnign the -- funding the project. the third lesson is used during -- using a culturally iconic appeal. as media has gotten much more competitive, we have had to really target populations. we tackled childhood obesity. we made cookie monster a roel model, -- role model. cookies are sometimes food. we were joked about on "saturday night live." people have said, what have you done the cookie monster? he is the veggie monster. he still loves cookies. but there is a mom in silver spring that can have a conversation with her child that even cook a monster doesn't keep cook

they have become a children's store in egypt. they will tell you. there of 150 million children under the age of 6, think about that. these kids are now being able to benefit from teh hindi show produced in delhi. these are local puppeteers, local educators, local musicians, local educators. it has had a huge effect on these populations. it is supported by a the u.s. agency -- able to leverage private sector support. in south africa, we were able to bring in insurance companies, fully fudnign the -- funding the project. the third lesson is used during -- using a culturally iconic appeal. as media has gotten much more competitive, we have had to really target populations. we tackled childhood obesity. we made cookie monster a roel model, -- role model. cookies are sometimes food. we were joked about on "saturday night live." people have said, what have you done the cookie monster? he is the veggie monster. he still loves cookies. but there is a mom in silver spring that can have a conversation with her child that even cook a monster doesn't keep cook

joint session of congress and called for a new world order be the six dcc countries plus syria and egypt called for a new order because the one that was shattered to smithereens because of the iraqi one there. the bottom line here is noninterference in iraq's affairs lest they open the door and leave them exposed and vulnerable at any point in iraq's interference in their affairs. and the same thing with regard to iran. there's no discussion about iran's elections. there's no discussions about fraud or free and fair or open and transparent electoral processes. there's no discussion about mahmoud ahmadinejad prospects or that faction or this faction for the same exact reasons that i gave before, about not giving iran any pretext to interfere in their societies to any greater degree than iran already has over the last 30 years. with regard to yemen this time, yes, they did address yemen but in a unanimous support for saudi arabia's position as well as the yemen government's position and going over and beyond what has passed for conventional wisdom or established thought or informed opinion

the same thing is happening for what basically with egypt.same thing happened with what we did to saudi arabia. the democratic movements were developing but we did not pay any attention to that. we did not have that kind of -- allow those regimes to -- >> let me judiciary jonathan, go ahead but i want to -- ask a serious question on this. the question is -- i hear a lot of muslims criticize u.s. alliances with dictatorships of the muslim world, as intervening on behalf of dictators and against democracy. do you think the united states should reorient its policy toward one of neutrality towards those countries? if the dictatorship stays in power and that is the way it is or showlingd the united states try actively undermine dictatorship in the muslim world? ? should the united states interfere in a way to promote democracy? >> we have two alternatives. one is a libertarian point of view. that is not going to happen. e we will always be interfering and involved in world politics. always involved in foreign policy. basically we need to look at t

the same thing happened in egypt and saudi arabia. democratic movements were developing and growing, but we did not pay attention to that. we did not allow those regimes to suppress. >> i want to as this year's question on this. -- i want to ask a serious question on this. i hear a lot of muslims criticize alliances with dictatorships in the muslim world. do you think the united states should reorient its philosophy toward neutrality for those countries or should the united states actively tried to undermine dictatorships in the muslim world and promote democratic change? where do you come down on this? do you think the u.s. should not interfere at all or do so to promote democracy? >> there is a libertarian point of view. that will never happen. we will always have form policy. we need to look at the growth and the history and the movement of the history. it is not on the side of despot's. it is not on the side of those were human rights violators. we do not understand that muslim world. >> jonathan? i want to get you in here. >> i t

followers, and include peoe from france, germany, ausalia, i've been told, as well foreign fighte from egypt and kistan. >> can you how much popular support it has tre? i me, you're on the ground. what do you sein terms of any support for it or feeling foit on the streets? >> well, you don't seeny grfiti or outright, you know, support r al-qaeda, but you're also talking aut a country th has sent owe over the years has sent thousds of fighters to fightn afghanistan and iraq, basilly fighting to libete muslims from nmuslims. in ts sense there's this great syathy for al-qaeda, because of their core messa of protecti muslims and fighting for muslims, but at the sam time most yemenis d't want to see suicide bombs in the streets ery day. >> wt about yemen as a failed stat whether it's the kind of place whe terror groups can fill a power vacuum? what do you se again, just around the country, or lking at how govnment works or doesn't work? what do yosee? >> yeah. i wouldn't calleit a failed stat i would say it is failing state. e government is facing numero challenges. it's got a civilar in the nort

good to any other country, egypt, you will find equally -- >> [unintelligible] [laughter] >> there is not a nation on the planet that does not do that. a poor miss unknown -- people nervous-- e pluribus unim. that is how we teach our kids. >> today, on c-span, william eggers talks about what government does and does not do well. then secretary of state hillary clinton on human rights. bruce randall looks at u.s. policy in afghanistan and pakistan. richard burr kaiser remembers the life of the magazine's founder, william s. buckley. >> we will talk with clark kent irvin, henry farrell, and ken walsh. "washington journal" starts at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. no available is c-span's book "abraham lincoln, great american historians on our 16th president. it is in hardcover at your favorite bookseller and now in digital audio to listen to any time, available where digital audio is sold. >> author of williame eggers spoken sentences go about his book. this is just over an hour. >> it is wonderful to be here in beautiful sunny california. a lot of my cousins are here. it really means a lo

in the weeks leading up to it, president of egypt and the leaders of the other arab countries bordering israel issued a steady stream of bloodcurdling threats to destroy israel and drive its jewish inhabitants, as they putit, into the sea. the second time in a 20th century, and only a quarter of a century after the first, a major community of jews was threatened with annihilation, actual annihilation. and once again the world as it seemed still complacently by. the difference, the literally earthshaking difference, was that this time jews living under a genocidal threat had the means and the will to defend themselves against it. and so the israelis did. in six short days, they avert another holocaust by waging one of the most brilliant campaigns in military history. most american jews celebrated that victory. but on the left, and especially among the intellectual who made their political home there, the outcome of the six-day war gave anything but cause for celebration. on the contrary. mainstream media, the world of the arts and entertainment, not to mention the un, it has become harde

he disowns the family according to this family member and move moved around the word to london to egypt to dubai and yemen. >> larry: what is the white house saying? we'll find out in 60 seconds. >> larry: as you might imagine is president is keeping up with all of this while in vacation on hawaii. ed henry, what a tough job you have, but somebody has to do it. >> reporter: that's what a always say, larry. it's a tough job on the beach. they're saying today -- obviously, you know, they were very concerned initially, and what was happening behind the scenes is quite fascinating because initially reporters were calling the white house has the scene played out in detroit. some saying we hear there's a northwest flight that is having some trouble, could be a terror incident. others call reporters say we hear there's a delta flight having a terror scare. initially the white house thought there were two planes having a problem. it turned out that delta and northwestern in the process of merging there was only one flight. it was apparently a sick passenger. so all they did was get the presiden

two refresh your memory 1956, the brits and french and israelis decide to invade egypt and retake the suez canal. they did not consult the americans before doing this but they invaded and eisenhower's said stop and threatened with economic retaliation so they withdrew. febris already had nuclear-weapons france and israel came to the conclusion we cannot count on the americans to become our security blanket forever. the suez crisis was an october 1956. november, golden bear and went to france and made the deal to undergo a joint program and they have the physics and technology but they would do the heavy lifting of building of facilities. the interesting thing is a few years later it was said when the french fired the algerian desert here was the first time two nations went nuclear with one-shot. several thought with india the triggers a border war with china and the exclamation point of the chinese test of 1964 and with that the and dank community began to give serious thought parker it is a country with a lot of talented people but ghandi put the stamp of approval in 1967. the initia

they have become a children's store in egypt. they will tell you. there of 150 million children under the age of 6, think about that. these kids are now being able to benefit from teh hindi show produced in delhi. these are local puppeteers, local educators, local musicians, local educators. it has had a huge effect on these populations. it is supported by a the u.s. agency -- able to leverage private sector support. in south africa, we were able to bring in insurance companies, fully fudnign the -- funding the project. the third lesson is used during -- using a culturally iconic appeal. as media has gotten much more competitive, we have had to really target populations. we tackled childhood obesity. we made cookie monster a roel model, -- role model. cookies are sometimes food. we were joked about on "saturday night live." people have said, what have you done the cookie monster? he is the veggie monster. he still loves cookies. but there is a mom in silver spring that can have a conversation with her child that even cook a monster doesn't keep cook

this cat was found up in egypt, if you ever watched "discovery" or "national geographic," you'll see the serbo cat drawn on the mummies and pyramids inside. even the pharaohs were buried with an serbo. a very regal animal. it's one of the few cats in the world that can jump and catch a bird in free flight. they can judgment jump up in the air six or eight feet in the air. isn't it magnificent? >> larry: magnificent is the right word. >> look at the back of the ears. they're called eye spots. see the ears? those are called eye spots. if an animal was looking at him they would think that the cat is looking backwards. >> larry: those are built in? >> exactly. the legs are different lengths. you notice this. the front and hind legs -- you see the back legs? >> larry: it gives spring. okay. we're just getting started. a kookaburra is next. what is that? we'll find out next. we know why we're here. to build a new generation of airplanes to connect the world. airplanes that fly cleaner and farther on less fuel. and make nonstop travel possible to more places. announcer: around the globe, th

this is egypt, one side, our ally, you have this basic cessation of hostile and rocket fire into -- from israel into gaza. they are trying to keep that under control. to me, having seen what the effects of life of their with people having more dantes and horses because they can't get fuel and parts to fix things, because there was a raw sewage in the streets and mechanic at the parts and we really never comment on that or if it is being done behind closed doors, we don't know about it. this kind of humanitarian crisis that is man-made is much harder for people to follow in many of our countries and you is going in and helping a tsunami that no one could prevent or an earthquake. i think it is critical. i think it would go very far not just to solve this problem but to give the people a sense of justice and recognition of the suffering they have endured for the past 60 years. it needs to go much further than it has and we need to stop talking about israelis and palestinians as if they are equal because they are not. [applause] we know that. that rings hollow every time when we talk about

we have a star on the no. 1 children's show in egypt.gyptian cabdriver in d.c., they will tell you. in india, which has 150 million children under the age of six, think about that -- these kids are now being able to benefit from eight hindi show produced in delhi. these are local puppeteers, writers, educators, directors, all produced in these countries. they have had a huge effect on these populations. we have been supported by agencies like the u.s. agency for international development, which has been a huge supporter of our work. we have been able to leverage private sector support. we were able to bring in the largest insurance company in south africa and they are fully funding the project. it is a model for what we are trying to do around the world. the fourth lesson is using a culturally iconic appeal to target specific populations in need. we have found that as media has gotten much more competitive, we have had to really target populations where we can have a deep impact. we tackled the childhood obesity issue by making cookie mo

what we discovered about early christianity from the sensational finds of documents and text like in egypt a few years ago. what we discover is that christianity in its early decades was enormously variegated. there were all kinds of different ways of organizing congregations that there were different theologies. there was not a common creed for 300 years. there certainly wasn't any hierarchy. there was a -- variety was blooming, and it wasn't until constantine came along in the early three hundreds and decided to pull everything together, imposed a creed, and make sure that those who didn't subscribe to it were cast out into the darkness. it wasn't until that centralization and imperial centralization occurred. we are still suffering. we are still suffering from that very negative term, but we don't have to. we now know that the earliest and most vigorous spirit of christianity was one in which there were a thousand flowers blooming. so there you have it. very rapidly stated. religion will be with us, one way or another, for as long as we will be around, as long as humans being have to co

this cat -- because i -- this cat was found up in egypt. if you ever watch like discovery or national geographic, you'll see the cervil cat drawn on their mummies and on the pyramids inside. even the pharaohs were even buried some of them with the cervil. it was a very regal animal. this is one of the few cats in the world, larry, that can jum. and catch a bird in free flight. they can jump up in the air six to eight feet and grab a bird flying by. isn't it magnificent? >> larry: magnificent is the right word. >> look at the back of the ears. they're called eye spots. hold on a second. see those things behind the ears? those are called eye spots. if this cat is eating something and let's say a hyena or something would come up to take it from it, it would think the cat's looking backwards. those are eye spots they're called on certain animals. >> larry: nature builds all things into these animals. >> their legs are different lengths. the front hind legs that gives him -- it's almost like a pogo -- >> larry: they can spring. >> jump up and ca

nationals, one was from egypt, one was om algeria, one was from hiopia, but they had u.s.ssrts, valid passports, with vad pakistani sas and two of them were pakistani-born ericans, and they were here for jad, >> brownpolice said the men told them they wanted train with a milant group tied to al-qaeda, but were turneaway. the arrests to place in the ci of sargodha, 125 miles south of the capital, lamabad. >> ( translated ): the were four forei people in the hoe, and we thought they were from america. thowner of the house also lives outside of theountry. he came here recently and somebody called the lice that foreigners were living he now. >> brown: u.s. oicials believe the five men, aged 1to 25, are the me individuals reported missing byheir families more than a wk ago in the washgton, d.c. area. yesterday, the head of t councion american-islamic relations id the families contacted s organization and the fbi. they'dound a farewell video om the young men with scenes of war and demandshat muslims be defended. >> i recall the deo is about eleven minutes andt's like a farewell,

so at san francisco it was americans going to the delegations of iraq and saudi arabia and egypt and syria to ask how they had gotten up and running their regional organization. some see the gulf war cooperation council that came into being in 1981 as a detraction, a distraction from the league of arab states. in the early months and weeks of its existence, there was, admittedly, no small amount of animosity, jealousy, resentment, suspicion, distrust, and yet it is in keeping with the charter of league of arab states which does include individual efforts between two or more arab countries to form building blocks upon which larger platforms of integration, coronation, collaboration, and cooperation can be forged subsequently. it is also in keeping with the united nations which has a separate chapter dealing with the encouragement of regional organizations while the five permanent members of the human security council have assured they can look out for their own interests and needs to protect their concerns. there is no comparable guarantee for the others, hence the encouragement of th

it was americans as often as not going over the the delegations of iraq and saudi arabia and of egypt and syria to ask how they had gotten up and running the regional organization. some see this gulf corporation council that came into being on may 5, 1981 as a desubtraction or distraction from the league of arab states. in the early months and weeks of the intis tense, there was admittedly no small amount of animosity and jealousy and resentme resentment, suspicion, and distrust. it is in keeping with the charter of the legal of arab states which does include individual efforts between two or more arab countries to form building blocks upon which larger platforms of intergreat lakes and coordination and collaboration and cooperation can be forged subsequently. it's also in keeping with the united nations which has a whole separate chapter dealing with the encouragement of regional organizations. while the five permanent members of the u.n. security council have assured they can look out for their own interest and need to protect their concerns, there is comparable guarantee for the ot

. >> let's go back to this past summer when president obama in cairo, egypt, reaching out to the muslimted these tensions. the attacks of september 11, 2001, and continued efforts of these extremists to engage in violence against civilians has led some in my country to view islam asinevitably hostile not only to the united states but human rights. all of this has bred more fear and mistrust. so long as our relationship is defined by our differences, we will empower those who sew hatred rather than peace. those who promote conflict rather than the constitution that can help allçç of our pe achieve justice and prosperity. this cycle of suspicion and discord must end. host: is it ending? suspicion and discord? guest: no, not yet. obama gives a wonderful speech. no. we have a long way to go. but if you look at the polls, they do show that the standing of the united states in the world at large and technically in the muslim world has improved significantly since obama became president and that is partly a kind of relief at the end of the bush administration, a kind of amazement that the un

the same thing is happening basically with egypt.d with saudi arabia. the democratic movements were developing and growing, but we did not pay any attention to that. we did not have that, and we allowed those regimes to suppress the people. >> i want to ask a serious question on this. the question is, i hear a lot of muslims criticize u.s. alliances with dictatorships wii the muslim world, as being on behalf of dictators and against democracy. do you think the united states should reorient its policy as one of neutrality, and if the dictator ship stays in power, that is the way it is? or should the united states actively try to up to date mine dictator ships and promote democracy? should the united states not interfere at all. >> we have two alternatives. one is a lib tehran point of view. we willles be interfering. we will always be involved in world politics. in that respect what basically we need to do is basically look at the growth history and the movement of the history. the movement of the history is not on the size of those p

it was an organization promoting dem crassy in egypt and the arab world. kind of a tough mission. host: back to the phone on the line for democrats. go ahead. caller: good morning. i'm glad to see barack obama is on that list. i voted for him and i'll vote for him again. i think keith oberman from msnbc has a great mind. i'd put his mind up against anybody. guest: he's a funny guy. i appreciate the way he's brought the impact of sports to the political world. host: among the journalists on this list, at 37 fareed zakaria. guest: he brings a lot to the table. some of these sunday shows you get a lot of politicians and consultants. it's refreshing to see real experts on tv. host: mike on the line. go ahead. . . due to technology and all these other things. guest: i think charlie rose is certainly one of the most insightful interviewers and journalists around today. we do not have many journalists on the list. if we did, he would have to be on it. host: this is the first time a foreign policy has put together a list like this? guest: we had a list a few years ago about public individ

and today there are 14 countries including jordan and egypt and iraq, etc.ries are doing this because they are worried about what an iranian bomb means for them and they are looking for a capability to deny it or counterbalance it. our challenge is huge, not to just have a robust policy to persuade iranians but to dissuade iran and everyone else behind them, that this is not in their interests and the costs far outweight the benefits. host: georgia, we have ronald on the democratic line. caller: hi, good morning, thank you for taking my call. i think the most credible part of information based on iran's nuclear program is based on iaea. and my understanding is that they looked at all the information and they have no evidence at all that iran is actively seeking nuclear weapons. and i think that the lesson from the last administration that we need to make our decisions based on evidence and not on fear. and so the question i would ask your guest, do you have -- i listened to what you have said this morning and you have not given any evidence at all that iran

it was an organization promoting dem crassy in egypt and the arab world. kind of a tough mission. host: back to the phone on the line for democrats. go ahead. caller: good morning. i'm glad to see barack obama is on that list. i voted for him and i'll vote for him again. i think keith oberman from msnbc has a great mind. i'd put his mind up against anybody. guest: he's a funny guy. i appreciate the way he's brought the impact of sports to the political world. host: among the journalists on this list, at 37 fareed zakaria. guest: he brings a lot to the table. some of these sunday shows you get a lot of politicians and consultants. it's refreshing to see real experts on tv. host: mike on the line. go ahead. . . due to technology and all these other things. guest: i think charlie rose is certainly one of the most insightful interviewers and journalists around today. we do not have many journalists on the list. if we did, he would have to be on it. host: this is the first time a foreign policy has put together a list like this? guest: we had a list a few years ago about public individ

egyp -- egypt's nilsaturday and the arab league's arab sat. in which both saudi arabia and kuwait are leading shareholders, who have relationships with our country. this is unfortunate. this propaganda threatens the long-term u.s. interests in the region and does a great deal of damage to the prospects of improving the bilateral relations between america and our allies in the arab world. in addition, it undermines the prospects for arab-israeli peace, make no doubt about that. americans have witnessed this direct connection between the charged rhetoric of the jihadist narrative. as tom friedman called in his recent column that many of us have read. and incites actual violence. this incitement creates and environment conducive to and accepting of terrorism. terrorism that impacts all of us throughout the world. as the u.s. and other nations join in fighting this terrorism, there must be a renewed vigilance against the purveyors of anti-american hatred abroad and the consequences for inaction and inattention are state sponsorship of this hatred

. >> let's go back to this past summer when president obama in cairo, egypt, reaching out to the muslimsts to engage in violence against civilians has led some in my country to view islam asinevitably hostile not only to the united states but human rights. all of this has bred more fear and mistrust. so long as our relationship is defined by our differences, we will empower those who sew hatred rather than peace. those who promote conflict rather than the constitution that can help allçç of our pe achieve justice and prosperity. this cycle of suspicion and discord must end. host: is it ending? suspicion and discord? guest: no, not yet. obama gives a wonderful speech. no. we have a long way to go. but if you look at the polls, they do show that the standing of the united states in the world at large and technically in the muslim world has improved significantly since obama became president and that is partly a kind of relief at the end of the bush administration, a kind of amazement that the united states could elect barack obama hussain obama as president, and some recognition that he

. $1.3 billion for egypt. $00 million for jordan. a provision to exclude the export import bank from entering deals into companies that contribute to iran's refine petroleum industry. gives the secretary of state authority to exempt countries cooperating closely with the united states to stop iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. $8.37 billion for counternarcotics and other similar programs in latin america. this bill continues the congressional commitment to increase diplomatic and development capacity with resources to hire, train, support and protect 700 new department of state personnel and 300 new u.s.a. personnel. the bill increases funding for key long-term development priorities, including $7.7 billion for global health activities, including $5.7 billion for global hiv-aids, $1.2 billion to improve access to quality, basic and higher education, $1.1 billion for food security and agriculture development. over $1.25 billion in bilateral and multilateral assistance for clean energy, biodiversity and climate change initiatives. an

this is egypt on the one side and this is his role on the other side. -- israel on the other side.raw sewage in the streets when it was not there six years ago. we never comment on that. if you're doing a behind closed doors, we do not know about it. this crisis is a man-made -- is man-made. i do think that it is critical and i think it would go very far not just to solve this problem, but to give the people a sense of justice and recognition that they have endured for the past 60 years. it needs to go much farther than it has and we need to stop talking about israel and palestinians -- and palace -- israelis and palestinians as if they are different because they are not. when you talk about their partners and bringing people over, they are under occupation. the do not have control over 85% of their lives. we also know that americans side with politics and interest groups and the only last comment i would say is that some of us are excluded from sitting at the table because we're labeled certain ways. when you look at it, the issue that we are targeted for is our position in suppor

i am esther, and i am president of the egypt star bakery in allentown, pennsylvania.ey know about are hard baked rolls and bread. we have approximately 40 employees. we have bakers helpers', drivers, clerks, and no matter what job you have, if you are needed someplace else, you are expected to go there and do whatever is needed as part of this small business. i know about the number of applications that i get, asking if we have a full-time position available because they may have lost their job or their hours have been cut, or maybe benefits have been cut and they're looking for someplace to acquire those things. that hours might get cut a little bit during the summer when our volume is not as heavy, but normally our employees are here to stay. >> we have been fortunate i guess that maybe people come to us instead of paying higher prices at bigger chain grocery stores. they come here and they feel that they can get just as good quality and not pay as much price-wise. >> money is very tight now. you just tighten your belt. as an owner, you take a pay cut so all of your

egypt star bakery is a longstanding institution, with a staff dedicated to serving their community. they have tightened their belts and made some personal sacrifices for the sake of the business. applied separation is a small engineering firm that trained people in green technologies for th. i am by ian now to watch their stories. -- i invite you now to watch their stories. >> this morning there were about 500 french breads. that did not include the pumpernickel. most everyone has heard it he did star bakery. they have heard of our roles and bread. -- rolls and bread. we have approximately 40 employees. this is part of the small business. i get people calling and asking if we have a position available because they might have lost their jobs or their hours have been cut. maybe benefits have been cut. we do not lay people off. the hours make it cut a little bit during the summer when the load is not heavy, but normally our employees are here to stay. >> we live paycheck to paycheck like everyone else. we have been fortunate that maybe people come to us instead of paying higher prices.

in the case of the israelites in egypt, moses didn't say let my people go two or three years ago . he said let my people go now. we all know sooner or later, our troops will be withdrawn from iraq and afghanistan. so the question is why not now? now, if you asked that question to the other side, the people who want to perpetrate these wars, the answer is always the same in one form or another, the answer is something bad is going to happen. but what that really means, something bad might happen. nobody knows for sure it might happen. they are speculating something bad might happen. but you can be sure that if the war is perpetrated, something bad will happen. and that is the loss of american lives, the loss of foreign lives, the loss of our national treasure. in the case of iraq, $3 trillion already and the amount grows every day. this in a country with a total net worth accumulated over two centuries of $50 trillion. we have taken 6%% of what our grandparents and parents left to us and everything we have toiled to produce over the cost of our lives and everything that our children

mexico, central america and colombia, and continuing security assistance to key allies like israel, egypt and jordan. funds provided in this bill will allow state and usaid to hire more than 1,000 new staff which will help balance the three d's of smart power, the national to -- the approach to national security. it will in turn support our nation's defense and allow our military men and women to refocus on their core mission. as the congress provides additional staff and increases foreign assistance funding the level of commitment to reform must be equal to funding commitment made. oversight must be a priority. for that reason the bill provides $149 million for inspectors general and the oversight provisions and reporting requirements are also included. the conference agreement retains the language, it prevents u.s. tax dollars from going to organizations that support or participate in involuntary or coercive methods of family planning. there are legitimate concerns about family planning funding that goes abroad and legislative safeguards will remain in place the next fiscal year. i regr

i met with the government of uzbekastan yesterday, the government of egypt.ve an agenda not based on u.s. standards but an universal decoration of human rights concept of what human rights are. >> we're talking about the obama administration's human rights agenda with michael posener, assistant secretary of state for democracy and human rights. if you'd like to get involved in our conversation the number is on the screen for republicans and democrats and independents. if you are calling outside the united states, call 202-628-0104. what's been the response so far from the countries you have been asherting the human rights policy. the approach we are taking in the notion >> that we're working from an universal standard that we just tack about but also the change occurs from within societies. so our primary focus is often how to help create space for members of civil society, for human rights groups, for women's groups, for the media to operate within their own societies and raise these issues in a way that's consistent with their own culture, history, backgrou

good to any other country, egypt, you will find equally -- >> [unintelligible] [laughter] >> there is the planet that does not do that. a poor miss unknown -- people nervous-- e pluribus unim. that is how we teach our kids. >> today, on c-span, william eggers talks about what government does and does not do well. then secretary of state hillary clinton on human rights. bruce randall looks at u.s. policy in afghanistan and pakistan. richard burr kaiser remembers the life of the magazine's founder, william s. buckley. >> we will talk with clark kent irvin, henry farrell, and ken walsh. "washington journal" starts at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. no available is c-span's book "abraham lincoln, great american historians on our 16th president. it is in hardcover at your favorite bookseller and now in digital audio to listen to any time, available where digital audio is sold. >> author of williame eggers spoken sentences go about his book. this is just over an hour. >> it is wonderful to be here in beautiful sunny california. a lot of my cousins are here. it really means a lot to me. we can

including assistance for countries like afghanistan, pakistan, and iraq, long-standing allies like egypt, jordan der, -- jordan, israel, and so on. money to combat hiv-aids, including money for the global fund. $1.2 billion for climate change environment programs, including for clean energy programs and to protect forests. $1.2 billion for agriculture food security programs. provisions dealing with corruption, human rights, funding for national organizations like the united nations, nato, the international atomic energy agency and prevent democracy and to -- and to promote democracy economic development and the rule of law from central america to central asia. and the funds to support our embassies and diplomats around the world, public diplomacy, broadcasting, programs like the peace corps and many other programs that support united states' interests. now, this omnibus bill, i don't support every single thing. i hoped as i know chairman inouye and vice chairman cochran could have brought each of the bills in the omnibus including the senate appropriations bill to the floor separately. u