>> i am here with the former .rime minister, ehud barak thank you for joining us.meet here after the deadliest violence in jerusalem in years. promising to respond with a heavy hand. what do you expect that to entail? >> no government can accept this. not about to tell you what exactly to expect. it is up to the government to bring the perpetrators to justice, to make sure this does test this does not repeat itself, and at the same time, [indiscernible] regionaltinians into a war of religion. this is theink beginning of another major flareup in violence? >> i hope not. a tough neighborhood and we have seen ourselves more than once, rounds of violence. to an extent, it is up to the other side, which you have to rely upon. it probably can develop. hopefully it will not. >> have you ever seen this so called responding with a heavy hand actually work? >> of course. many times. but it does not mean you don't pay a price along the way, , a disruption of the normal life, and even sometimes diplomatically. but there is no other choice. we are a tough neighborhood. determin

. >> one of the many personal relationships you explore is your relationships with ehud barak, prime minister of israel. they're seriously a lot of crust there. tell us about that appeared in ikea number of friends going back to the clip administration. when i issue the stuff i had the opportunity to work with david brock. we developed a strong friendship . he has a really remarkable background in terms of the history of his family in the rc status with the history of my family and i told him not, so we both kind of shared, you know, just one family histories. he plays the piano, i play the piano. >> who better? >> i'm sure he is better than im. but we both enjoy classical piano. he is someone who i found you could really talk with in terms of what is in the interest of israel, what is in the interest of the united states and how can we work together to try to serve the interest of both? as defense minister when i was secretary of defense, we had some tough issues to deal with because at one point, netanyahu had indicated israel was prepared to go ahead and strike out or run because