cat: sarah eichhorn is one of her clients.son when simmons was incarcerated and eichhorn was volunteering to help people with substance use issues. eichhorn had been incarcerated herself after an altercation during a supervised visit with her son when she was a teenager, a time when she was battling drug addiction. sarah: i got sent off to prison and was just there for like five or six months, not too long. but yeah, so i got out. and that's really hard to get a job. cat: for the last 18 years, eichhorn has not had any run ins with the law, but her felony record has been a big obstacle. sarah: i feel like i have to kind of live on the fringe a little bit still. i would love to not have to explain my worst day ever, my son's worst day ever to anyone again. you know. cat: simmons is helping her friend apply for a pardon, to erase that record. tarra: you know, you make one bad decision, make one mistake, and that does define you. and it's unfortunate because you can make hundreds, thousands, millions of good decisions since then

so the first one i might say something about is, is rabbi eichhorn from from tallahassee. and he did say, where were some of the chaplains he was very derisive of those chaplains with very clean boots, with skin by his boots and very clean clothing because because eichhorn made it a point to drive all over the theater of and get close to the front line as possible. and because driver got a little how do i he as he described once he got a little excited a little nervous when shelling came in he decided to drive himself and he even got arrested by pat's mp for driving his own jeep. but eichhorn tried to be as close to battle and hence he was once ordered to lead service in this town that not been fully. in fact, he showed up and the only people there were intelligence. but sure enough, he's held services there. and to give you a sense of how he was to the front line, he he said as he was leaving military intelligence said to him, well we know the germans are you're now out of artillery range because the germans would have shelled such a large concentration of men gathering f