i'm nowjoined by eileen burbidge, who's a partner at passion capital. that it puts into stark focus really the amount relative spent in the us, the same purpose and as per household in the uk. sounds like on an average basis americans are more conspicuous with their spend, but it sounds like they are buoyed by the economy domestically in america, so they're feeling more optimistic given the job situation and how strong the economy is in the states and now there will be more reduction in trade tariffs, so they will be more optimistic probably this year. the really interesting thing would be to break down... i don't know if they have this detail but are people spending that on themselves, their families or are they being generous and spending this on gifts for eve ryo ne and spending this on gifts for everyone they know far and wide? that would be the really telling bit of data. the other aspect that is quite important as some would say that christmas time puts a lot of pressure on people economically, and people end up spending what they can't afford and

with me is eileen burbidge, who's a partner at passion capital and a technology entrepreneur.s get started with a rather shocking story on the front page of the times, of goings on within britain's prisons. it is talking about the fact that there are probably a lot of, sort of influence and conversion to islamic extremism in prisons, and it follows of the back of a review in 2016 looking at how this could be approached, and pa rt how this could be approached, and part of the problem, when i was looking at this, is we haven't had a consistent justice secretary for more than 18 months since 2015, so over the past four and a half years we have had five different secretaries, and we don't have consistency in looking to address the problem, even though this has been widely researched and there we re been widely researched and there were a whole suite of recommendations made in 2016, but it will clearly be a growing problem, and prisons will be a natural cultivating ground for extremism, and views of every type because of the close contact, the close quarters, and how disenfranchise

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