let's start with what is nato's credibility and then we'll go, how it is damaged. credibility is eileen nichol should have finished with the war, subject it no overt, no, it says that we are defensive organization. they are not. well, we live there, ways of x day extension. small waves of explosion. they have hubbard, you see, starting from the clinton administration. they've done that. so when you are increasing your area and so, and then certainly you will order defensive organization. no. so basically what the americans were trying is to nato 2 things. one is to keep strengthening the draws it lock, big buck to ship. that is important for them that the cool water is over. but we should have a fun horn with a concert log dig partnership. and the 2nd was that if need to, could have a rule in the asia pacific. there were also looking at doc, no, what has happened during these ukrainian special military operations is i believe their credibility has gone down tremendously. why it has gone down is because the us, they were supposed to deter russia. and they got detoured by russia. when president