also represents the gold standard in urban planning, i.e., a large dense project at a transit stop please certify the eir and ultimately support in project thank you. >> your mr. o'donnell, sir. >> yes. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> mr. tillman. >> commissioners i'm bob tillman i've owned and operated a mission and opposed property since 2005 at the 25 and mission and i'm here to support the draft eir statement for 1979 mission as written i'd like to urge you to approve that statement and i think that if san francisco can't approve a project on top of literally on top of one of the largest hubs in the desire city where can you, in fact, build a dense residential project thank you very much. >> thank you, marlyn (calling names). >> hello my name is mary line i'm from the organization we're an environmental justice organization that works primary in san francisco with the latino families i'm here to oppose this project there are folks seeing this will help transit but you're building a parking lot next to the school that effects the families and students and in san francisco we have a problem w

commissioners want to raise two quick issues after i think that is that would be great to look at the eir kind of maximum affordable housing alternative or variance land dedication that gets the affordable housing percentages increased it would be that would be helpful to look at that option as a variance alternative in the eir and then we heard a good deal about parking and whether the parking is causing the building to be perhaps too high or bulky i don't think any of the alternative transportation looked at the no parking lot alternative but one that eliminates that and perhaps uses it for other uses and bring down the side of the building to reduce other impacts i ask you to add those. >> thank you my personal thoughts i've read the document here i guess the digest i started to delve into it what's the last date to submit comments. >> july 15th and the comment closes on july 5th assassinate 5 o'clock. >> i understand to understand tennis the beast on bryant last week this project was affordable percentage and they need to comply with the codes the current code i don't have the specifi

also represents the gold standard in urban planning, i.e., a large dense project at a transit stop please certify the eirnd ultimately support in project thank you. >> your mr. o'donnell, sir. >> yes. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> mr. tillman. >> commissioners i'm bob tillman i've owned and operated a mission and opposed property since 2005 at the 25 and mission and i'm here to support the draft eir statement for 1979 mission as written i'd like to urge you to approve that statement and i think that if san francisco can't approve a project on top of literally on top of one of the largest hubs in the desire city where can you, in fact, build a dense residential project thank you very much. >> thank you, marlyn (calling names). >> hello my name is mary line i'm from the organization we're an environmental justice organization that works primary in san francisco with the latino families i'm here to oppose this project there are folks seeing this will help transit but you're building a parking lot next to the school that effects the families and students and in san francisco we have a problem wha

re-established a deadline of july 1st for publication of spectrum responses to comment with the draft eir at the hearing the board of appeals unanimously uphold the notice of violations penalties and those deadlines remain we're on track track to have those pushed by july 1st and on track for the certification on july 28th and lombard street he heard this is a mandatory discretionary review for a medical cannabis dispensary in the and i hypotheses was heard by you last november and community groups in opposition to the project at the hearing last night the board of appeals voted 2 to 2 to deny and overturn an action only 4 commissioners for this item not sufficient votes to take action by active law it was uphold and the finally final what the van ness two street trees on the van ness corridor in the bus rapid transit the appeal was the removal of trees and the board voted to uphold the street trees that's all. >> if no questions we'll move on to jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items, opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the i

commissioners want to raise two quick issues after i think that is that would be great to look at the eirind of maximum affordable housing alternative or variance land dedication that gets the affordable housing percentages increased it would be that would be helpful to look at that option as a variance alternative in the eir and then we heard a good deal about parking and whether the parking is causing the building to be perhaps too high or bulky i don't think any of the alternative transportation looked at the no parking lot alternative but one that eliminates that and perhaps uses it for other uses and bring down the side of the building to reduce other impacts i ask you to add those. >> thank you my personal thoughts i've read the document here i guess the digest i started to delve into it what's the last date to submit comments. >> july 15th and the comment closes on july 5th assassinate 5 o'clock. >> i understand to understand tennis the beast on bryant last week this project was affordable percentage and they need to comply with the codes the current code i don't have the specific

it doesn't slow down the eir process at all and the fact of the matter is this process has been going on for more than 5 years which is unheard of and that is because of their delay. >> the academy is iis aing they had a generous settlement proposal on the table and you turned it down. >> i say that is groussly over states the facts. settlement discussions the particulars i can't go into because they are conficial but nothing is further from the truth a generous offer was put forth. there was numerous settlement discussions but it became clear to me they were going no where because the aau wasn't taking this as serious as they needed to. i wouldn't have fall filed the suit if i didn't think i needed to. before i take questions i want supervisor wiener to say few words. happy to have supervisor wiener here and he has been pushing legislation and working for years to limit the aau's ability to flaut the law and make sure we have even handed enforcement with educational institutions and mast r planning. jerk >> thank you dennis i want to thank the city attorneys office to moveic forward

our subsequent to that we were at this point without an attorney number 6 i belive we were making progress on the environmental review we set a deadline of having a draft eir by november of that year and didn't meet that deadline but have at draft eir issued last year over the course of time i know the academy represented they have been working diligently we'll not find that the case instances i had to get directly involved to request of their attorneys to pay their bills with consultants we had failure or lack of wilson to allow site visits for historic conservation review the matter before you is the notice of violation penalties and whether or not those properties are in violation the academy not limited to they're no violation ultimately what the dispute is whether or not penalties should or could be assessed at this point we are and have been very patient and diligent working with the xhaurmd and chelsea is here with the staff dedicated district attorney tremendous amount of time working with the academy for several, several years dethat's a great question from works on the important city projects we've made 24 a priority the academy has not done that

at a prescribed level. that was the basis for the eir to do pdr and its prescriptive loss that were all aware of. to the final plan, somehow at the last second that most of the community having any sense of it, poof, the idea prescriptive retention is been part of the suddenly happens and zero complete mismatch between the eir and the actual eastern neighborhoods plan for pdr loss. i just want to correct-can i correct when the facts? i heard 15% is what we've gone through in the eastern neighborhood pdr. i think we all think john can confirm this, we have numbers which show in fact it's not 15% of combined seven and eight pipeline and bills pdr lost its 61% in the mission plan is what the losses that. something to the effect of 17/30. isn't the number shown in that chart i sent it to you a number of times. >> we have a map here that says when in the mission and pdr. you can see it says 15% of total. you can see the project. red and blue. you are saying this is 61%? >> different number you're talking about that that's what the er our number is, john? >> that was converted to space. >> overlay of p

it doesn't slow down the eir process at all and the fact of the matter is this process has been goingon for more than 5 years which is unheard of and that is because of their delay. >> the academy is iis aing they had a generous settlement proposal on the table and you turned it down. >> i say that is groussly over states the facts. settlement discussions the particulars i can't go into because they are conficial but nothing is further from the truth a generous offer was put forth. there was numerous settlement discussions but it became clear to me they were going no where because the aau wasn't taking this as serious as they needed to. i wouldn't have fall filed the suit if i didn't think i needed to. before i take questions i want supervisor wiener to say few words. happy to have supervisor wiener here and he has been pushing legislation and working for years to limit the aau's ability to flaut the law and make sure we have even handed enforcement with educational institutions and mast r planning. jerk >> thank you dennis i want to thank the city attorneys office to moveic forward t

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if you look at the design alternatives required in the eir only one design required removal of the street trees. this is the most expensive alternativend creates the most impact. we see this pattern of the mta picking the most expensive and impact of design instead of the least expensive and least impact of designs. we ask that you question the validity of the organization for a propensity for choosing the most expensive alternative and greatest negative impacts on our residents and businesses. how does this project that removes trees, bus stops, traffic lanes and parking and now bus seats help the mta to assure quality life of san francisco the primary objective of the system must be the safe and efficient movement of the people and they should move the the route to the bus lane move trees to the left of the basra. >>thank you. >>you would see 30 or 40 people lined up for google buses a handful of people waiting for a uni-bus. this whole thing has been a lie from the beginning. they started out telling this us this would be paid by the- they said vanness avenue had no double parking one

information, but also we are looking at different alternatives, times of change, and we need to really start laying out a process that we believe we understand the impacts to our eir, to impacts if we did changes what that would mean for us and still trying to meet the 2025 date. there's a lot of work and i think this board has the responsibility of guiding this process and really start looking at what options we have and what decisions we need to make so we're not all over the place and have to be transparent with the public of course so that's mine. >> mayor gee. >> i want to thank you for bringing this forward and we have to start somewhere. i wouldn't be surprised if this evolves a lot over the next months if not years but as we all agree up here the goal is to have the trains downtown, and with all the other studies and i'm not going to assume they're done, is that while one study may say it takes more time or money and we have to base it against something and this could be that something and measure success and options so i think we're at the point to move it forward to complete everything up to 30% to really establish a baseline project, and then take it on

have come forward claiming to be an h eir to the late new significant, dna test already ruled out colorado inmate claiming to be prince's son. >> remembered attributes at last night's bet awards. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> that's mo'ne right there, couple of philly artists in on this, too, the roots, stevie wonder, a lot more people gave a multifaceted reflection on the late artist's musical gift. bet promise add great tribute, they've been saying it for about a month now, and the cable network lived to up that challenge by honoring prince throughout the entire show. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> also there is was huge surprise, beyonce hit the stage with rapper kendrick lamar to get the party started. she performed her song freedom, then won in five categories including video of the year for formation, beyonce wasn't able to stay to except her awards, but instead, her mom, tina lawson, did. turns out beyonce had to leave early to start the next leg of her formation world tour in london. >> well, still ahead on "eyewitness news", cuteness overload. not one, but two baby panda's are born. oh, this is going to make your day, brooke. >> oh, my goodness, coming up why one cub is getting

plan amendment has significant impacts that must be analyzed in an eir and otherwise objectionable for many my february letter and acts at a risk if you approve the amendment and the mayor's projects soon by rely on the i went for the 2009 housing element and the illegal eir is considered by the california court of appeal and it will substantially weaken the policies to avoid the impact into the neighborhoods character including policies and - afternoon units per - >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors rose and was going to talk about what was posted on the website i see a change of part of what i'll read the original rhd back in 20156 categories and forwarded to the board with no recommendation even though i understand that planning was working on it for two years i'm part of coalition for san francisco neighborhoods land use committee and didn't hear it until close to the timeline it was sweet spot to be adopted so with this new middle-income housing program proposal i don't see any new text and getting concerned that day today is the same process and if we do that again, i'm afraid 0 - they'll get ra

for a second and quote non-pdrs development this is the eir for eastern neighborhoods non-pdr development will be required to provide pdr space at specified ratios in the last eastern neighborhoods plan this requirement for pdr mysteriesly disappeared by the pdrs assumed it will not be removed it shouldn't be grand for the exception it bans a eastern neighborhoods plan and environmental impact report that are inconsistent with each this loss is not happening in isolation bull there is a longs reverified consultants all without proper environmental review this can't be approved with the environmental review the assumes are out-of-date the number of housing units with the eir is in the mission a surpassed by a significant margin. >> and you have this in front of the you the preferred hours under the plan were 1696 now more than 26 hundred during the meeting sarah jones and her environmental team said no formula for deciding when the offer building will trigger the exemptions without a clear guidance they shouldn't be granted like the project bra today and addition of circumstances on the ground including the level of displacement

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at the terminal. >> the problem is with the product that was introduced after the last eir was constructed.roduct which is known to have environmental impacts, cole. >> but -- coil. >> but plans for bulk coal were strengthened when the city of utah invested $53 million for a coal shipping facility in oakland. the facility would ship about 9 million tons of coal each year. >> what about the jobs that the fronts could bring? and that is a big part of the argument here, the environmental concerns versus hundreds, possibly even thousands of construction and longshoremen jobs,ost oakland could certainly use those jobs, but at what cost. mark? >> at the state capital, white supremacist try to show their point of view, and protesters show up in the hundreds, and then things get violent fast. people brandished sticks, and tracked the other side like prey, even pulled knives on their political rivals. >>> starting today cal fire is extending burn permits in the bay area because of increased fire danger. cal fire also said now is the time for homeowners to protect their properties, that here. s remov

plan amendment has significant impacts that must be analyzed in an eir and otherwise objectionable for many my february letter and acts atisk if you approve the amendment and the mayor's projects soon by rely on the i went for the 2009 housing element and the illegal eir is considered by the california court of appeal and it will substantially weaken the policies to avoid the impact into the neighborhoods character including policies and - afternoon units per - >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors rose and was going to talk about what was posted on the website i see a change of part of what i'll read the original rhd back in 20156 categories and forwarded to the board with no recommendation even though i understand that planning was working on it for two years i'm part of coalition for san francisco neighborhoods land use committee and didn't hear it until close to the timeline it was sweet spot to be adopted so with this new middle-income housing program proposal i don't see any new text and getting concerned that day today is the same process and if we do that again, i'm afraid 0 - they'll get rail r

plan amendment has significant impacts that must be analyzed in an eir and otherwise objectionable for many my february letter and acts at a risk if you approve the amendment and the mayor's projects soon by rely on the i went for the 2009 housing element and the illegal eir is considered by the california court of appeal and it will substantially weaken the policies to avoid the impact into the neighborhoods character including policies and - afternoon units per - >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors rose and was going to talk about what was posted on the website i see a change of part of what i'll read the original rhd back in 20156 categories and forwarded to the board with no recommendation even though i understand that planning was working on it for two years i'm part of coalition for san francisco neighborhoods land use committee and didn't hear it until close to the timeline it was sweet spot to be adopted so with this new middle-income housing program proposal i don't see any new text and getting concerned that day today is the same process and if we do that again, i'm afraid 0 - they'll get ra

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comments and make comments to the draft eir and pursuant the ceqa one 50 as a result the project shall manpower not be a significant impact on the environment and athis time the issues are outside the scope the ceqa process important comments today should be directed to the adequate and accuracy of the information in the draft eir and not to the merits of proposed project that will be considered to the another time so i'll ask the commenters to speak slowly and clearly the court will produce on accurate transport and state your name for the record the draft eir was published on may 4, 2016, the public comment began on may 5th and extends until 5:00 p.m. on july 5, 2016, following the close of comments the planning department will prepare the rtc document after hearing comments from the general we'll take comments from the draft eir from the planning commission this that concludes my presentation. and unless commissioners have questions i respectfully request the public hearing

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