my name is ekaterina varkan. call myself a writer and i am very pleased to introduce myself. today we are his interlocutor sergei mikhailovich nekrasov, director of the all-russian pushkin museum, and today. we want to tell you an absolutely wonderful story, but each story has a backstory and both of these plots are related to e in our opinion, she is an extraordinary personality, but today, little known and even forgotten , we are talking about count mikhail andreevich, miloradovich. and so i asked sergei mikhailovich to support me here, uh, so to speak, because he remembers miloradovich, practically personally i hope so, well, uh, holla andreevich uh, he was great. e, military commander of the late 18th and early 19th centuries. he was born in 1771. in the family of hereditary military e, his parents and grandparents came from serbia, that is , he, in principle, was considered a serb in russian service, like his ancestors. e, then he studied at the most fashionable, e, universities in europe then königsberg and