. >> we're talking to ekekiel emanuel for his vision of a complete overhaul of the health-care system per your plan could set up a two-tiered system for those who cannot afford have a gold system and those who can will be without. >> i am not sure you want whenever sure you want to prevent the without the love me say i think the rich being able to buy more, a first of all, recognize it is inherent. right? in canada they have one system the rich still buy more. they come to the united states they go to harley street in britain but from a practical standpoint the rich will always buy more and buy out. if they don't buy it here mob the cayman islands, switzerland, britain and so from a practical standpoint you will have a two-tier system. be realistic second it the question should not we can the rich by more? the real question is for the vast majority of people who are not rich, what are we giving them? what we're giving them is a good? that seems to me to be the question that we want. how they spend their money is their business. what we want to know is if we're in the system do we get