. >> sean penn interviews el chough poe. >> why couldn't i say that?would come out. actor, activist. >> you should see a doctor about that. >> michael you said rolling stone was not relevant since 87? >> no, 1977. >> but then you went on to castigate the magazine with counter cultural. i don't think that has applied. >> that's why they are irrelevant and they have been irrelevant for the last 30 years. >> emily you are right. this was about penn going to interview el chapo and not actually interviewing el chapo. there were so many things wrong with this and everything else could have been for given if the actual piece had been good. >> it was just horrible. >> he was shooting for hunter thompson. >> ebony, you said you are not mad at the big political thing. >> he has done the same thing. he goes out to support chavez. he has really, really bad taste in political heros. >> i feel like he doesn't know any better. dude if you want to be that guy in hollywood, do your research and just come a little more correct. that would serve him well. >> you should t