the reform requires individuals to be el juigible for cash assistance, rather than tanif fund add cyed assistance. ending heat and eat. they're providing live heat checks. when they receive that individuals receive increased food stamp benefits. >> let me break this down. a little bit. how much are you assuming is being saved just by virtue of the block grant itself? $133.5 billion. over ten years. >> then how much is saved by the tanif requirement? >> that is the total estimate of all the savings, that would include categorical, heat and eat savings and block grant. >> since -- since job training is a condition of receiving s.n.a.p., am i right, you make that a condition? >> we, we wanted to -- replicate the -- the reforms that were achieved in the welfare reform area in the 1990s. so we wanted to move more towards work requirements and so forth. ,000 we have built those assumptions into, into our budget. >> as you may remember that reform provided at that time, fund to help in work force training. so my question is do you assume since you make work force training a condifgs receiving