parents but those surrounding them sweat think that was a lot of their complaints professor elaine bell kaplan "we live in the shadow" inner-city kids tell their stories through photographs" here is the cover. booktv c-span2. >> is "the hollywood sign" an american icon? >> very much so it is. there are so many icons it is an overused word but if anything in america has of claimed it is the hollywood sign purposes it is such a strange type of icon because it represents it is just a group of letters that refers to hollywood but hollywood itself is a strange word that means that old movie business and stars and everything you wanted to be sitting on the hill people come to los angeles and want to be photographed near it. >> host: how does that compare to the american end i comic when dash iconic image like the statue of liberty? >> those have a specific look the statue of liberty is obviously a statue of a woman holding a torch even the washington monument have a specific place to sit there but with the hollywood sign that is different is it is much easier to project your own feelings because it

>> host: "we live in the shadow" is the name of the of book professor elaine bell kaplan is the author. what was the experiment you conducted? >> wanted to interview kids that try to achieve something like actors care programs program is the neighborhood academic initiative here on the campus that dedicated the low income students for college and also introduce students who were part of another after-school program and wanted to see about trying to achieve something of rather than just roaming the streets but what it was like to be part of the program is intended to be graduates for their undergraduate work. >> with berkeley and columbia university they did quite well for those that graduate go on to college post secondary and i think that is astonishing. while living in south central the have the reputation to be a place of games and drugs in the impoverished communities so how they feel about coming home to this community so with all these problems and issues i set out to interview them but i realized that a certain age they cannot do anything had you feel we we're doing? find. so th

> thank you very much >> host: "we live in the shadow" is the name of the of book professor elaine bell kaplan is the author. what was the experiment you conducted? >> wanted to interview kids that try to achieve something like actors care programs program is the neighborhood academic initiative here on the campus that dedicated the low income students for college and also introduce students who were part