joy williams, and elaine boozeeler welcome back. great to have you all here.his is painful. >> which part? >> john: i'm half virginian, and virginia is the state that had the first african-american governor. have they changed at all before elected right wing guys. >> are you half northern virginia or half southern virginia. you go to the north and you see a very different picture from the south. >> john: i'm half southern virginia. >> and it's the southerners who gave you the slate this week. not much has changed. it's not everybody in the state. >> john: of course. >> that's what is important to keep in behind. >> john: l. joy, how do we end up with extremists. >> also in how the party chose to nominate. they decided to go a convention route is that you get the people who care about the party the most who are going to be the most vocal. >> who are extreme. >> and who are extreme and will vote for someone for their interests. i'm wait for two things from the republican party. i'm waiting for an adult in the room to stand up and is a in say no ma as, spanish fo