joe gave me the contact name of the woman, the person in the city attorney's office, elaine o'neil. ken, do you know her? okay. i'll talk to you later then, about the scope of the claim and it sounds like what's called a total cost claim and they're going to have a real hard time prevailing with that based on my experience. so as i said, i will follow up with ms. o'neil with the particulars and follow up. >> what is the total financial risk of this claim? >> 18-20 million? >> that's correct. that's an estimate. i have not seen the actual documents from the subcontractor but there has been discussions of up to $18 million claims from the subcontractor. >> on a subcontract worth about 100 million? >> that's correct. >> they have a tough road. >> but this is not a risk to the bond program itself, the bond program doesn't have 18-20 million dollars left. is that interpretation correct? anybody know? >> i mean, i was just looking at this, it's june 30th financial report. back then there was a balance of about 12.2 million. >> i can quickly talk about the $12 million remaining in the proj