it was published just minutes before and her end of the end of her term on wednesday. elaine pearson is the acting asia director with human rights watch, and she's joining us live from sidney. are good to have you with us, man, while we're waiting for that sir, that press conference. describe your reaction. first of all, to the reports by michelle blashley. well, this really is a groundbreaking report, either un, it's been a long time coming. i'm, it's, well, i begin, but i say it's groundbreaking because it finds that the mass, arbitrary detention of wiggle and other muslim scene. she gang may amount to crimes against humanity. and this is coming from the u. n's top official on human rights. it goes into some detail describing the types of serious violations of human rights . it talks about torture. totes that force, labor rate, and arbitrate attention. china denies all these allegations. it clearly believes there is no case to answer. china does nothing. what should happen? well, i think this report is a really important step towards accountability for the victims and survivors of