productive hearing that you and supervisor mar held there is 8 different points where we are looking at elbility and how do we change it and have a more transparent and open thing of the advisory council meeting? how do we get the different panel members on and more with an eye towards the areas of ex-per, and the areas of concern that you are looking at on the grants for the arts advisory. >> can you provide us with a list of the grants for the art awardees and the specific dollar amount as well as separated out the additional $500,000 that was increased and where that funding was distributed to the grantees that is was distributed to? so if we could have that information, that would be great. >> okay. >> and last but not least, when the organizations are penized, for example, if they turn in documents late i think that is about a ten percent penalty what happens with those funds? >> all right, i will find out the answer to that and get back to you. >> i am hoping that that has happened, especially with the smaller institutions what you are proposing will be helpful for a lot of the smaller ins