for example, in new york, there were events under the auspices of the you and, and mr. eldon's, assistant called directly from new york, he called mr. will shut off and made an offer. on behalf of the green inside, we agreed. and the next day, the head of the ukrainian regime publicly stated that he would not participate in any negotiations. her husband a mar, change in, in the west ukraine rhetoric in recent months. there's definitely been a softening looking at different avenues. was that touched upon? yes, this is something that we've been show in here at ard, see, and let them represent, did address it as well. he said is before western media and officials that we saw there calling for strategic defeat of russia, whereas now the language has changed over so slightly sort of defeat and russia. it's about making sure that we maintain ukraine, secure, etc. so just that slight change of language says a lot already. we know that there were for us and they to officials who spoke anonymously to political, for example. and apparently keep powers in nato. don't want to crane there. they set to