but eleanor and frank -- i'm sorry, but eleanor and earl cometted to be in touch. and eleanor would visit earl while she was first lady. and, in fact, i really believe that miller helped her make that transition to first lady by giving her self-confidence. he encouraged her to ride horses. he bought dogs for her to play with. i guess they were sort of protection to her. and he also a taught her how to shoot a gun. because as first lady eleanor refused secret service protectionment so earl taught her how to shoot a gun so she could carry the gun in the glove compartment of her car. miller all during the period she was first lady even though he was married and divorced in there several times, he offered her relaxation from her high-profile life. now, once in the white house, of course, eleanor found that she had to play a ceremonial role, and here she is in what appears to be a heavily-retouched photograph -- [laughter] in an inaugural reception outfit. you can see that she's first lady. and i wonder how many of us are aware of this, she was actually on the best dres

>> mine is eleanor roosevelt. hy was born in washington shortly before -- my mother was a reporter who covered eleanor roosevelt. and the white house -- >> wonderful. we have someone here in the audience based in washington at the start of the new deal. her mother covered eleanor roosevelt. this lady was invited to party with eleanor roosevelt. this is the wonderful thing about speaking in washington d.c. because everyone has a story. are have given this talk fairly frequently when i was in college and i asked this very question. who is the first first lady you remember? a lady in the front said mrs. calvin coolidge. we have a winner. no one has talked that for going back farther. more recent first lady's? anyone want to offer your first memory? [inaudible] >> i remember thinking how goofy looking eisenhower -- >> we will talk about the look of first ladies who preceded jacqueline kennedy. eisenhower was the immediate predecessor to jacqueline kennedy. if we can move on, tell me who is your favorite first lady. if

eleanor! >> we could get another view here, when the corporate jet caucus is done convening. >> oh, that's nonsense! >> do you remember the $400 toilet sets the pentagon had to defend? >> i do. >> this is the kind of thing that people understand, and when you look at the tax code, it's riddled with tax breaks for special -- >> remember the yacht tax in the yacht industry? put them out of work. it's the exact same thing. >> this is demagoguery. hold t eleanor! this is complete demagoguery! and and i'll tell you why. there are workers out there that build these planes, pilots that fly them. there are guys that service them. may fly around one. i was down there at that boat factory when they had the luxury tax, they used to build eight a month and now they're building one. they gave them to mexico! >> the big yachts? >> the big yachts! [everyone talking at once] >> don't you think this is more joe the plumber stuff he he says he wants to spread -- >> it's small -- small -- [everyone talking at on

bush at one point talk about the fact that her mother had detested eleanor roosevelt. she thought that she was a busy body. she was running around, around the country. until she met her and then she really did reverse her opinion. and i think that over time, maybe barbara bush also reversed her opinion but i remember the comment as well. yes, ma'am. >> was it difficult for first lady bush to deal we are husband's failures, did she comment about her son george bush as president and his successes or failures? >> she said also nothing for publication. i do know from things from what she said that she was concerned about our involvement in iraq. and had real concerns about us going in and what was going to happen. but beyond that, she really hasn't said very much about his presidency. you all may remember there was that one incident early in his presidency where -- this is george w. bush was eating a pretzel, and he started to choke on it and she said that was pay back for having criticized her cooking. but, no, she's not really said very much about it. yes. >> we hear --

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. >> eleanor? >> if they increase the debt ceiling, okay, disaster averted. but it's hardly historic. >> you'll get a fizzle and it will happen probably august 1. >> if they got a 4 billion- dollar or 4 trillion cut in expense to go with me, it would run! >> do you walk this fast all the time? >> only when i'm running away from you guys. >> media tycoon rupert murdoch didn't only deliver the news this week. murdoch was the news and continues to be the news. the owner of the news corp, a $32 billion media con gone rat, is in the eye of a whirl storm. the rap is hacking. murdoch's journalists have been hacking into the cell phones apparently of the owners and users of those phones. police reports say there could be as many as 4,000 victims. murdoch's journalists also invaded confidential medical records, one of those victims is the former prime minister of the united kingdom gordon brown. two of his newspapers reveal private medical records of the son of gordon brown and the young boy's history of cystic fibrosis, which his mother and father were treating as a

but and eleanor was always pushing for more. she wanted -- she did manage to persuade him to have the armed forces provide recreation facilities for african-american soldiers but he never, for instance, took on the issue of having african-americans fight in combat units or the integration of the service until very late. it was harry truman who actually did that. >> host: let's fast forward and we can talk history but it's fascinating you interviewed president barack obama how many times? >> guest: i interviewed him four times, once exclusively for the book. >> host: the obama presidency is partly inspiration for this book, obviously. >> guest: yes. >> host: and which is exciting. we're all excited to have the first african-american president in the white house but you talk not only about the presidency but also about some of the disappointments that have come after the two years in office, the tea party folk. >> guest: yes. >> host: now, president obama has worked very hard not to be seen as a black president. >> guest: right. >

eleanor. >> well, the republicans have blinked. grover norquist has given a pass on some tax revenue hikes, and so there's suddenly more negotiating room on the revenue side, and the democrats are now going to start squawking, but that's the way the deals unfold. i think if after all this they produce a mouse it will be a total embarrassment for everyone. already a lot of damage has been done. the confidence in government in this country and around the world. >> let me get this in. okay, invoking reagan obama, please, give me a break! >> raising the debt ceiling has invoked the memory of the 40th president of the united states, ronald wilson reagan. president reagan raised the debt ceiling during his two- term presidency 17 times. here's an example. in 1987, how ronald reagan badgered a democratic congress, both chambers, senate and house, democratic, into raising the debt ceiling. president reagan then scolded the 87th congress. >> congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility.

kind of is an invitation to racial profiling i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight eleanor the one that really baffles my mind is that you are not supposed to help anybody if you think that they might have documents and that's that's just and humane and that thank you so much thank you. i still come tonight tonight he compared them to children and tonight we're giving them our tools and award to their lack of leadership and stick around for happy hour and then we see suspend the can trigger. three calls obama a derogatory name for the male anatomy and we say goodbye to the big chubby crybaby over at fox and it's fucking still. get up sometimes you see a story and it seems so poorly pleat you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. early on. and you know. fuck fuck. fuck fuck. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right leg. i think rock the bomb is either funny well. whenever the government says they're for kee

i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight eleanor the one that really baffles my mind is that you are not supposed to help anybody if you think that they might not have documents and that's that's just horrible and inhumane and that thank you so much thank you. i still come tonight tonight excuse me he compared them to children and tonight we're giving them are told time award but our lack of leadership and then stick around for happy hour and that's n.b.c. suspend the contributor after he calls obama a derogatory name for the male anatomy and we say goodbye to the big crybaby over rocks in the back i'm still. hungry for the full story we've gone to. the biggest issues get a human voice ceased to face with the news makers. spending the year in iraq is military journalist. we still in the u.s. . there's kind of wasting their time trying to get killed. i thought oh was willing to give the life. to be about twenty seven days to publicize and invite. who. started the beat of the dialogue. chanting the slowly we've seen since the. time for sides told time of war to. and we're givin

. >> well, one of the things that fdr's own social conscience was awakened when eleanor brought him to, and in so far as he was able to project those nice domestically, how do you, where do you come out on the issue of the limits of politics, but the demands of justice? because no one would argue now that, because of the thirds of reconstruction, jim crow, because of the robber barons of the north, and economic oppression, that many social reforms should have happened earlier, many social reforms should happen right now, will not because there's another man in the white house. that tends to be an occupational hazard for people behind that desk. where do you come out in this? is this a tragedy of history, or are there moments where individuals do make this difference? >> well all in all, eleanor herself like to say if you want me to the man in the white house she would have married norman thomas. i think she's one of the individuals who make a difference actually. and i think fdr was, too. and maybe norman thomas was, too. if she was right, that he was part of, he was pushing her and sh

but when eleanor roosevelt hired the family's longtime housekeeper to do their white house cooking --ident roosevelt complained bitterly about her cooking. -understand that people attended the state dinners did as well. >> . -- >> they got a place setting in history. >>> it became popular in the 1970's, but the techniques are centuries old. a transcendental meditation helps soldiers >>> more than 20% of soldiers returning from afghanistan suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder. a new research suggests that one way to combat the symptoms lies within the mind. >> 27-year-old david george was deployed to iraq and sleeping in his caught when a car bomb exploded 25 yards away. >> i turned the lights on and i saw a white cloud that billowed into the room. all the windows were blown out at that point. then i started screaming. >> since then, he has struggled with ptsd. he is often anxious, angry, and oppressed. >> i was pretty sure i would shoot myself. >> when he came back, he was not the boy that i raised pit >> medications and therapy did not tell. but then he joined a steady four vet

eleanor roosevelt in turn was lobbying for this with a blow war department and in the back of the bed berdache the bedrooms of the white house that this was the right thing to do. but he didn't do it because it was right thing to do. it was because it was the politically expedient thing to do. he needed the 1940 election, black votes. wendell willkie had done more since lincoln to make the republican party the party most favorable towards african-american rights. there was a real danger african-americans who voted for roosevelt might switch back to the republican party as they had before 1932 so roosevelt's political advisers were worried about this. roosevelt had some embarrassments in the 1940 campaign. the most odd and significant was stephen hurley, his press secretary's run in with the new york city police officer. fdr was campaigning at madison square garden. the press secretary considered the first modern press secretary was trying to get through a police line at madison square garden. an african-american police officer would not let him for and he got in a wrestling match that

now our kids are going to learn about how franklin roosevelt became eleanor roosevelt. that won't be the only revelation in these teacher-taught lesson plan-on-man action. >> starting in 2013, students will learn about famous gay people, is up as harvey milk, san francisco's first openly gay politician. >> if, in fact, there is a discussion in english about oscar wilde, it will reference the fact that he was gay. >> stephen: what? this guy was gay? [laughter] that changes everything i never learned about him. and, folks... [cheering and applause] and i am not the only one who sees where this thing is going. >> california rewriting the text books, the history books saying, by the way, george washington was a homosexual. >> yes, how dare california say that a man in a powdered wig and high silk stockings is gay. next thing they'll accuse him of crossing the delaware on a pride float. well, california, california, you're so eager for gay history, i will give you gay history. gay was invented in ancient greece by socrates, who came up with the socratic method, which i belie

eleanor clift, a little bit short. a lot of stuff going on.e you, thank you. >>> prince william and kate middleton make head leans in canada. the on day four of a nine-day whirlwind tour through the great white north, doing from everything planting trees to visiting cancer patients. nbc's peter alexander covering all things royal from montreal. a good sunday morning to you. what's the latest on their journey? >> reporter: another full day on tap today for william and indicate. tough to be the future king and queen, isn't it? these guys have a sunday prayer service, that's how they start off. for public events we're learning about some quiet time they've been able to carve out during course of this trip. friday in a window where we didn't see them, they shed their own security and went to the prime minister's exclusive retreat where william took his new bride on a rowboat to a quiet log cabin. beneath the glow of fireworks, the duke and duchess of cambridge boarded a royal canadian naval ship, setting sail up the saint lawrence rival to quebec

now our kids are going to learn about how franklin roosevelt became eleanor roosevelt. that won't be the only revelation in these teacher-taught lesson plan-on-man action. >> starting in 2013, students will learn about famous gay people, is up as harvey milk, san francisco's first openly gay politician. >> if, in fact, there is a discussion in english about oscar wilde, it will reference the fact that he was gay. >> stephen: what? this guy was gay? [laughter] that changes everything i never learned about him. and, folks... [cheering and applause] and i am not the only one who sees where this thing is going. >> california rewriting the text books, the history books saying, by the way, george washington was a homosexual. >> yes, how dare california say that a man in a powdered wig and high silk stockings is gay. next thing they'll accuse him of crossing the delaware on a pride float. well, california, california, you're so eager for gay history, i will give you gay history. gay was invented in ancient greece by socrates, who came up with the socratic method, which i belie

. >> dylan holds nothing compared to eleanor. i like eleanor.t. >> she's here next. >>> let us move from the debt plan to other fun things like our wars in the middle east. today harry reid counting savings in his plan from our drawdown in iraq and afghanistan. that sounds good. banking and expected trillion dollars that won't be spent when we withdraw from iraq and afghanistan. the only number crunchers say think can get that is with withdrawals. the plan is raising broader questions about our role in the middle east. the future in the region, and every president's propensity to proclaim their desire to get us out of the middle east while escalating and investing war in oil-richç monarchies that we depend on or energy resources. our specialist today, an award-winning journalist who spent four decades coving terrorism, turmoil and most recently the drive for democracy in the islamic world. her new book "rock the casbah" documenting you new counterjihad. we welcome you to the conversation. tell wlaus a countergee shaud? >> the most important wav

he was assassinating figure and even today, eleanor holmes norton seeks to create voting rights for the district of columbia but it's also proposed state heard bill the would alter the boundary by creating a federal enclave separate of the district of columbia or the state of new columbia. there were hispanics i mentioned francisco. this is jose who was the leading voice for puerto rico becoming a state. they didn't follow his a device that they did elect him the governor right after, so they had a great deal of the admiration and there were some women. they were hard to get information on because they were not getting a seat at the table. i think they had a deal more impact on influenced for them i know of at least, but among them , her efforts failed on behalf of the hawaiian nation to change the boundaries of the united states and she was involved in the convention of kansas and once again eleanor holmes norton. to me all these people and the quest create a bureau of ongoing progression of americans. and why they did what they did and when and where they did that turns the merrill wh

by the way, those of us to study first ladies take eleanor roosevelt and put her in a category on to ourself. she is, as my wonderful mentor would say, generous. on to herself. there is no one like her before or after, but for those who come after, i maintain that jacqueline kennedy is abridge first lady because she bridges the gap between the very traditional lady and of eisenhower and then the most modern first ladies, really starting with labor johnson. all of them have had public policy with the exception of nixon, past public policy that they worked on and their husbands of restoration. so if i did a game right now that said in that policy, for every first lady i'm sure one more of you could say, oh, i know exactly what the first lady is famous for. now i ask you, what about laura bush and currently michele obama? you put them in the category of the supportive spouses or would you put them in the second category of more of the presidential partner in response to their husbands? i would say think about this as a semi final point. that is that i think laura bush had to be the on h

. >> eleanor? >> they've got to raise the debt ceiling even if it takes the president invoking the 14th amendment of the constitution and doing it under his own authority. they've got to do that because the consequences of that, the numbers you just put up on the screen, would look rosie compared to what the economy would look like if we defaults. we take the world's global economy with us. >> who believes we'll do that? >> i do. i know michele bachmann don't. but defaulting on our debt would cause interest rates to go up, say bye-bye to your 401(k). it would have all kind of negative implications. but the sluggish economy i think is in part because washington doesn't work, and businesses are retracting, consumers are overly cautious. everybody is treading water. waiting to see what is going to happen. and pat's right, there not a lot of tools in the toolbox left anymore. >> what do you think of this -- debt crisis? >> i think it's a very serious crisis because in a sense it's perhaps a longer term

. >> that is congressman walsh of eleanor responding to the criticism of senator john mccain. a politico columnist, roger simon, wrote the congress has become a fantasy baseball camp in which amateurs role in the hall pretending they are major leaguers. >> i am sympathetic with the objectives of the conservatives who are rejecting this deal, but they are shooting themselves in the foot. two examples -- friday morning, the president steps out and says we are going to go for a deal coming out of the senate. by not giving boehner the victory thursday, the center of gravity and leverage shifted from the house to the senate. second, friday, you got these catastrophic economic numbers showing that the economy has grown at less than 1% in the first half of this year, which is utterly -- it was not only a slow rate of growth in the spring, but a revision of the growth in the winter and disastrous. yet, all of the talk in town instead is about the debt ceiling and about the damage republicans may do if they stop the raising of the ceiling. the republicans are achieving huge objectives

. >> eleanor, what is going on in your house? >> when the dust settles on this so-called debate, the response from the american people is likely to be a lot worse than anything we do with the debt ceiling. >> it is likely to be worse but the deal does have the righto elements to it, you'll see businesses start hiring again. right now they are holding on to more cash than ever. i think this will restore confidence in the economy. >> i think that the question will be, where the focus will be as it relates to job and job creation and that focus will be on small business to drive this economy and also as it relates to government, capping that spending and having to do the real hard work of meeting the cuts. >> i think the damage may have been done and i think that just like we said, there is a possibility of downgrading our aaa. once we do that, we for trouble. because as someone looking to figure out where to invest their money, will it will be in a place where you have governance issues? if you were a ceo and trying to do mergers a

from the palace of aunts to the museum of eleanor there are several cultural armand's here the annual film festival for example brings many tourists and industry professionals to the region from all over the world but why is one of the girls wants that question and more let's meet this week's guest let's look to me. to meet you now tell me your involvement with the festival here and about. well humans to go party all over again. from director. director of programming or this just so so i decided to take this seize this opportunity to compose a competition program which would consist of the term movies of. why. well actually it's not in your ideal told to holes not in the capitals but somewhere in the small cities which might be far away from the madding crowd but still can become the center of their of the for the film industry for film lovers for filmmakers such as can you know i'm not comparing of course it is all over with but. great for. well you are threatened people with the name of course i'm what interest to locals have with foreign films i'm not sure about the exact number bu

in today's crosstalk people of eleanor's gus discuss why the leadership is so adamant about saving the euro at any cost i hear some of what's coming up next hour right here on r.t. . lead the series go bankrupt it would be good for greece it would be good for the europe it'd be good for the world if greece went bankrupt and rose they have to pay their bills or stop the lie then you would have everybody would know it's a strong sound currency based on a strong sound economy while i'm out and go bankrupt listen in i europe in america we've had states go away grocery and cities go bankrupt we've had counties go bankrupt it didn't in the united states and it didn't in the u.s. start i'll tell you why because of the four hundred billion dollars a debt that greece has fifty percent is held by german and french banks and those countries don't want to take a second in their financial markets it's that simple. and there are clear reflections on the other side of the atlantic to president obama has given an unyielding u.s. congress thirty six hours to raise the country's debt ceiling the deadloc

eleanor in the olympic national forest. >> this goat appeared and sasha saw the goat and the goat tookff running and sasha took off after it. >> reporter: devastated they searched for hours. with the steep cliffs andnd roc terrain they knew they needed help. >> my dog would never leave me. she'd die. she'd stay and die. and i'm leaving her. and jim just said, we're leaving to go get her help. >> reporter: they made a simple flyer and contacted mountain rescue. two days later a team of six volunteers rappelled down the cliff and found the dog. for three days with no food or water, she'd laid on an icy ledge with a broken leg, alone. >> he said, and she's got a broken leg. and then i -- i just fell on the ground. i said, oh my god, are you telling me she's alive? he's like, she's alive. and i just was weeping and crying. i was so emotional. good girl, sasha. >> reporter: gwen says after searching high and low, part of the reason sasha m me it home is due to a higher power. >> because we love each other so much. she fought to stay alive up there, i know it. >> i get that. i do. >> dogs an

the world's attention is also discussed in today's edition of cross talk or you can join people of eleanor's guests later today but for now here's a quick preview. in this particular case with news of the world it looks more and more like you had reporters and editors who are engaging in criminal conduct there is no concept of free press anywhere in the world that enables journalists to break the law if someone hacked my voicemail i would love to see them in jail but if you look at the criticisms that are being leveled at murdoch it goes far beyond that people are using this as an opportunity to attack him for his politics and for his stridency and first partisanship. i mean you can watch crosstalk in about a two and a quarter hours time here and see the eurozone has been dealt a fresh blow as debt is downgraded to junk status by moody's credit rating agency it's fueling concerns the country could need a second bailout this comes a week after portugal's rating was also reduced and follows speculation that it's really too might soon ask for a helping hand pull a. northwest england has told r.