still remember eleanor brown i was the only one with straight hair.used a certain fearlessness and a drive to get out. haslinda: when you eventually and pursue to schools like ucla and colombia, with that sense of achievement, what was it like? rosaline koo: i am not sure there was a sense of achievement . like, i have to study really hard. i was the first in my family to go to college. both of my parents were illiterate. i was the very first. they didn't ever learn to use english even though they lived in the u.s. were so long. i mainly use my college money to help my brothers and sisters. haslinda: how is the relationship like between the siblings? rosaline koo: we are very close to my family is still very close. my mom comes at least once a year to see grandchildren. we go back every year. my family is very tight. haslinda: you bet your has been in new york. and you are a different personality? -- you met your husband in new york where it rosaline koo: we had different upbringings. his grandfather was part of the military. he was a general. they le