>> congresswoman eleanor holmes norton. >> that was congresswoman eleanor holmes norton. the delegate from the washington, d.c. area, talking about the shooting here, how there hasn't been a day like this in washington, d.c. since 9/11. she said. i want to bring in, in our washington d.c. bureau, matt maasdam, a navy s.e.a.l. who worked at the naval yard. matt, one of the interesting things the congresswoman said when she was asking the public to withhold judgment on what happened today, was that what happened today took place in a secure building in a secure facility. she was suggesting that whoever got access and whoever presumably perpetrated this act, had to have had a way to get in because it's not an open facility. you work there. tell us about the security at the naval yard. >> that's right. the security at the navy yards is the same as it is at most military installations. if you work there, and you have the identification to get in, there are no magnetometers. people don't search your car when you come on the base. so if you have the proper identification, you ca

for my back pain, i want my aleve. >>> delegate eleanor holmes norton was at the news conference juste mayor and city's police chief. we're glad to say eleanor holmes norton joins us on the phone. good afternoon, ma'am. >> good afternoon, martin. >> you'll be leading a moment of silence tomorrow when the house reconvenes. but i have to say that when i watched you speaking at that press conference, you sounded wearied by the fact that you were representing constituents once again who had been victims of gun violence. >> and this time, martin, a gun violent attack so very close to the congress. one wonders if the -- isn't it interesting, the congress isn't here today. the senate has gone on lockdown. the house is not, because the house is still adjourned until tomorrow. i wonder how members who have -- who stopped on the last go-round of the gun bill would approach today. where the -- [ inaudible ] the mayor reported there were 13, including the gunman who are dead. and many more were injured, and we just don't have a final count on the ending. some by gunshots, some hurt in other ways.

eleanor holmes norton spoke on the house floor, calling on congress to exempt d.c. workers from the federal budget dispute. >> new information on the shooting rampage that left 12 people and the gunman dead at the navy yard. naval sea command is telling employees they will not be able to retrieve their personal belongings out of the building for some time. the message released this afternoon says that the building sustained heavy damage and remains an active crime scene. once the fbi releases the building, movers will be brought in to remove equipment and .ersonal belongings the navy is telling employees who left their cell phones in the building that they should start looking for a replacement. >> the department of justice and fbi are defending the decision to release surveillance video from inside building 197. that video shows aaron alexis roaming the building before the rampage. it released the video in part to dispel any lingering questions as to whether alexis acted alone. to agency says it spoke victims' families before making the video public. greater video

monday night-washington dc representative eleanor holmes norton spoke out about safety concerns. most of the questions are outstanding. for many of us in this city who have been plagued by gun violence, among them is how someone whatever his badge, managed to get a high-powered gun into one of the most secure facilities in the district of columbia. >> just hours after the navy yard shooting, a scare at the white house. secret service officers tackled a man outside the north lawn after he tossed firecrackers over the fence. the man has since been charged. >> continue to follow us online for the latest on the investigation in the washington navy shooting. >> floodwaters are finally receding in colorado. problems are piling up. residen residents return home to survey the damage. >> the united nations reveal its findings on chemical weapons in syria. coming up - why some say the report points to president bashar al-assad. >> live - you are watching what happened after it took 19 hours to lift up the wrecked "costa cordia." what is next for the 114,000 tonne cruiser? >>> pressure is m

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eleanor holmes norton, i understand now the delegate that represents the d.c. area is holding a news conference. let's listen in to that. >> and yet this is a facility that is not -- i hope it won't be. >> you compared this to 911. why does he compare to 911? >> only in the number of victims. it doesn't compare -- tlsz no indication that this was a terrorist event. i hope we all understand with the guns loose in society it doesn't take a terrorist to do what was done here today, to despoil the reputation of this rising neighborhood that is now surrounded by newly built homes and facilities and i think we'll continue to thrive. i hope the system doesn't take from what has been one of the most security facilities in washington and yet one not closed down to the public. >> what do you think about the letters --? >> i don't take anything away from it. increasingly, i think that's probably the case. i too many withholding judgment about what happened here. thank you very much. >> you have it there, eleanor holmes norton, the delegate that represents the district of

and then our congresswoman eleanor holmes norton.> the only thing additional we can add right now is that we are still continuing to ask our community to remain out of the area and shelter in place. we still are working diligent lely to verify or clear whether we have the last additional person of interest out. whether they're involved or not. that process is not complete. this is still an active investigation. we have a lot of law enforcement activity in the area. please bear with us. ask that people stay out of the area until we give the all-clear. i will also add that -- our officer from mpd is recovering. he does have serious injuries. but we know he is going to be okay. i wanted to thank all our community members who have shown an outpouring of support for our mpd family. we have the officer out of surgery. stable. and will be okay. traffic closures remain the same as before. probably will remain. cantaloupe sure closures through the night. once we clear the last suspect. whether that will be a person we are looking for or not.

. >>> a short time ago representative eleanor holmes norton spoke out about safety concerns. >> there are many outstanding questions, i would say most of the questions are outstanding. for many of us in this city who have been plagued by gun violence, among them is how someone, whatever his badge, managed to get a high powered gun into one of the most secure facilities in the district of columbia. >> now with more on the fbi's investigation into the navy shooting, let's bring in retired navy james wettig. now it appears there's only one gunman. how do these investigations unfold over time? >> good evening, john and my condolences to the families and the victims. you know, this is a complicated question. but i think when it's all said and done the next couple of days we're going ofind out that authorities may not have closely examined his background. and he might have been afforded access to the secure building without the proper checks. and maybe even an airport investigation i -- an errantinv. >> investigations many times they don't turn out to be the way they are in the end. that's

s delegate to congress representative in congress, eleanor holmes norton joins us right now.tell us, based on what you've seen today, how is washington recovering? >> well, for us, this is the greatest violence we've seen in our region since 9/11. the agency involved is one that is an integral part of our neighborhood. so this is not like a federal agency somewhere. it's a federal agency that you have to have in the daytime certainly a badge to get in, you have to be cleared. but in the evenings it is a facility that the navy allows the community to use in its banquet halls. washington is recovering, but washington needs a lot more answers. we perhaps feel most deep areally that this man was able to get into such a secure facility with a gun. that's about the last thing you'd expect to happen, even in facility that's are not secure. >> what needs to happen to make sure that this doesn't occur again? he went in apparently with a valid security pass. he was given a security clearance just over the summer, despite incidents of violence, gun violence, in his past. what changes ne

then we'll have our fbi representative, our chief of the park police and our congresswoman eleanor holmes norton. chief lanier. >> the only thing we can add right now is we are still asking our community to remain out of the area and shelter in place. we still are working diligently to either verify or clear whether we have that last additional person of interest out, whether they're going to be involved or not. that process is not complete. so this is still an active investigation. we still have a lot of allow enforcement activity in the area so please bear with us and ask that people stay out of the area until we gif the all-clear. -- give the all-clear. i will also add that our officer from the npd is recovering. he does have serious injuries and we know he's going to be okay and i would like to thank all of our community members who have shown an outpouring of support for our npd family. we have the officer who is out of surgery and stable and going to be okay. so traffic closures remain the same as before. they probably will remain closures across m street throughout the night. this is goin

. >> eleanor holmes norton, representative from d.c.hat said outright yesterday she wouldn't vote for it if it wasn't about supporting obama. >> exactly. in her case and in the case of a lot of these liberal democrats, many of them are from seats where they're not going to lose anyway. only way they can lose is if they have a primary challenge, hasn't materialized in a lot of cases. he will get votes from people that are holding their nose and voting for it. the tough part is when it gets to the house, how many democrats they lose and whether or not there will be enough republicans to make a majority. there will have to be carried in both houses, largely by democrats. >> last thing quickly, you heard the president today in sweden. what have we learned about this president and how he operates? >> i think one of the things we learned about him is that he does not like to take full responsibility for things. again, we heard it today. he says he didn't draw the red line. well, he's the one that used the phrase, and i heard the argument made

. >> joining us now, delegate eleanor holmes norton of the district of columbia. you very much for being here. >> of course, jonathan. >> i want to get to domestic politics in a moment. but you served in congress while jesse helms was still alive. you were also one of the original organizers of the march on washington 50 years ago. tell us why ted cruz is wrong. why don't we need another 100 jesse helms in the senate? >> well, you know, ted cruz would -- should amend his statement ever so slightly. jesse helms, who said all those crazy, racist and bigoted things, we need 100 more like him. i mean, jesse helms was one of the last, perhaps the last of the avowed bigots who would stand up and admit it on the floor of the senate. the notion that there's any member of the house or senate who want to embrace the mantle of jesse helms, let him stand up. you heard him. ted cruz. >> yeah, which was rather shocking, which is why we're talking about it. i want to talk about somebody else right now. on thursday, you spoke on the house floor, moments after congressman steven k

person who represents the district of columbia in the house of representatives, congresswoman eleanor holmes-nortonlet me first of all say again, we all know this is a horrific tragedy. certainly one of the worst in recent memory and certainly -- i don't in the we can remember anything quite like this here in the city. we know these kinds of things have happened in other places and other cities in america, but nothing like this here in the district of columbia. let me begin by saying that my heart, like that of our entire administration, goes out to the families. those who have been victimized, who left home to go to work this morning, thinking they were going to work on behalf of our nation, working at the navy yard, working for the navy, only to have something horrific like this to occur. secondly, i want to thank all the first responders, all the law enforcement agencies and all the dozens, the hundreds of people who have done such a sterling job today, to deal with this horrific tragedy. i'll be followed by chief la -- lanier and then valerie parlay and then congresswoman norton. first of all i

have our fbi representative, we'll have our chief of the park police and then our congressman eleanor holmes norton. >> the only thing additional we can add right now is we are still continuing to ask our community to remain out of the area and shelter in place. we still are working diligently to either verify or clear whether we have that last additional person of interest out, whether they're going to be involved or not. that process is not complete. so this is still an active investigation. we still have a lot of law enforcement activity in the area. so please bear with us and we ask that people stay out of the area until we give the all-clear. i will also add that our officer from mpd is recovering. he does have serious injuries. but we know he's going to be okay. and i wanted to thank all of our community members who have shown an outpouring of support for our mpd family. so we do have the officer now who is stable, out of surgery and stable. he's going to be okay. traffic closures remain the same as before. they probably will remain closures across "m" street throughout the night. this is goi

person who represents the district of columbia in the house of representatives, congresswoman eleanor holmes norton, first of all, say again we all know this is a horrific tragedy, certainly one of the worst in recent memory and certainly i don't know, you never remember anything quite like this here in the city. we know these kinds of things have happened in other places and other cities in america, but nothing like this here in the district of columbia. let me begin by saying that my heart, like that of our entire administration and others, goes out to the families of those who have been victimized, who left home to go to work this morning thinking they were going to work on behalf of our nation, working at the navy yard, working for the navy, only to have something horrific like this to occur. secondly, i want to thank all the first responders. all the law enforcement agencies and all of the hundreds of people who have done such a sterling job today to deal with this horrific tragedy. i'll be followed by chief lanier and then valerie parlave, chief chambers if she chooses to speak and then congr

person who represents the district of columbia in the house of representatives, congresswoman eleanor holmes norton. let me first of all say again, we all know this is a horrific tragedy, certainly one of the worst in recent memory, and certainly i don't know if we can ever remember anything quite like this here in the city. we know these kinds of things have happened in other places and other cities in america, but nothing like this here in the district of columbia. let me begin by saying that my heart, like that of our entire administration, goes out to the families, those who have been victimized, who left home to go to work this morning thinking they were going to, you know, work on behalf of our nation, working at the navy yard, working for the navy, only to have something horrific like this to occur. secondly, i want to thank all the first responders, all the law enforcement agencies and all the dozens, the hundreds of people who have done such a sterling job today to deal with this horrific tragedy. i'll be followed by chief lanier, then valerie parlave. chief chambers, if she chooses to spe

many on the democratic left are against it eleanor holmes norton a delegate from d.c.out her feelings on it watch. if he gets at all it will be because of loyalty of democrats. they don't want to see him shamed or humiliated on the national scene. at the moment, that's the only reason i would vote for it if i could vote on it. >> tucker: that's amazing send missiles in to kill people. >> mike: that she doesn't believe in. >> tucker: because she doesn't want to see obama shamed that's unbelievable she would say like that but perhaps that's the motivation of congress. >> mike: some people in this country do feel that way about the guy or the woman. you know i voted for that person. i want to continue to support them. >> tucker: sparing him shame is not a good reason to kill people. >> alisyn: again, the president is speaking tuesday night. there was some indication that the senate might be voting on this as early as this week. so, it's hard to know if the president between right now, this moment and tuesday night if he can sway people in congress and sway the american pu

>> i know eleanor holmes norton.. i like her a lot. my daughter likes her a lot. what she's showing is she's a very loyal woman. she disagrees with it, but she's a very loyal woman. i fully understand that. she's being loyal to the president. >> brian: i got to ask you something, conrad black is making a lot of news with this statement. he's evidently an astute foreign policy observer. he said notice's the disintegration of the soviet union in 1991 and since the falling of france in 1940 have there been such a swift erosion of world influence of a great power as we are witnessing now with the united states. is that overstating what's happening before our eyes? >> only conrad black could say it so well. i will say, i think it's exactly true. we are not respected. i've been saying this for a while. we are not respected as nation, like we once were. we are going down and we're going down rapidly. we're a country with tremendous deficits, with tremendous debt. we just -- it's a different deal. you have a general now, our

but those would be the top two, i think. >> delegate eleanor holmes norton, thank you so much for your>> the house of representatives thursday voted to make deep cuts in the nation's foot stamp program. the measure narrowly passed. no democrats voted in favor of those cuts. friday's "new york times" called the measure quote, an act of supreme indifference. i want to bring in josh wax at "share our strength," a nonprofit aimed at ending childhood hungry and tatiana gaines turner. thank you both for being here this afternoon. >> thanks for having us on. >> thank you for having me. >> tatiana, i want to start with you. the caricature a lot of those on the right paint is of people who sit around waiting for a handout. but you work and your husband works. what does government assistance mean for you to be able to run your household? >> it means the world to us as well as many other families across the united states. it's very important for us to be able to get food stamps to help us to get nutritional meals for me and my children. a lot of times people don't understand that we are the dolla

we also got eleanor holmes norton appeared here just a few minutes ago. she's the d.c.e in congress. she says it's very sad. she's urging people to withhold judgment on what happened. that building, the naval facility here, was the anchor for the revitalization of this entire neighborhood along m. street in southeast d.c. she says it's very sad to hear of these deaths and this incident. she also said she can't believe anybody could have gotten into that building unless they work there because you have to show a secure id to get into the building. otherwise sometimes the campus is open to the public. but you can't get into that building without a secure id or if you have an appointment with somebody, then you have to go through the magnetometer and show id. >> sad, indeed. all good questions that you raise. steve, thank you very much. i'm joined now by retired lieutenant colonel oliver north, fox news military analyst. also dr. michael bowden is with me here on the set. we'll get to him in a moment as well. actually, let me start with you on this. i want to follow up on

here is a member of congress, congresswoman eleanor holmes norton.esn't think it's the right thing to do. listen. >> i think it will be because of loyalty of democrats. they just don't want to see him shamed and humiliated on the national scene. >> yeah, right. >> at the moment, that's the only reason i would vote for it if i could vote on it. >> gretchen: i hate to say it, but that's politics and i totally disagree it and i think that's why congress has a dismal approval rating. 10%, 11%, it's for that reason, because people don't feel like they can trust their politicians to act on their behalf. correct? that's proof of it. but it would happen on the other side, too. i hate to say it. >> steve: just remember, brian, you brought up the health care debate where a lot of democrats went along with the president. they weren't sure it would work out and boy, were they right about that. in the implementation and what happened in the 2010 mid terms? landslide. they had followed the president and he got what he wanted, but a lot of them lost their jobs. wha

the honorable eleanor holmes norton, who we all recognize and applauded for her of veering on the scene and being stand together appropriately the other day. and i want you to know, i saw you. i recognized you not just as a colleague but as a person is deeply concerned about all the people who were involved in this committee, at least by myself, and i'm sure all of us would wish to thank you. we recognize that some days are sad. i give you great respect and honor. i would also like to welcome the gentleman from louisiana. without objection, both of you can anything i've been writing will be entered into the record. i would like to recognize if i can at this time ms. holmes norton. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. i very much appreciate your words. >> yes, ma'am. if you could please come you have a very soft voice -- >> i can speak louder. >> as long as others can hear it and i would suggest i'm okay, too. thank you. >> i appreciate you letting me know whether you get me. mr. chairman, only the most extraordinary circumstances would lead me to come forward and asked for anonymity th

the honorable eleanor holmes norton. we recognized and applauded for her appearing on the scene, and being standing up very appropriately the other day, and i want you to know, i saw you. i recognized you not just as a colleague but as a person who is deeply concerned about the people involved in this committee, at least by myself. and i'm sure we wish to thank you. we recognize some days are sad, give you great respect and honor. i would also like to welcome the gentleman from louisiana, without objection, both of you, anything you have in writing will be entered to the record. and i would like to recognize, if i can, at this time, mr. holmes-norton. >> thank you. >> if you can please -- you have a very soft voice. >> i will try to speak louder. >> as long as others can hear. i'll suggest i'm okay too. >> thank you. >> i appreciate you letting me know whether you can hear me. mr. chairman, only the most extraordinary circumstances would lead come forward and ask for an amendment to the congressional resolution. i've bee