but i'm joined tonight by top pollster and ceo and founder of electoral calculus, martin baxter.n, the mood music on immigration out there in the country is changing, is it not? i'm looking at polls. i'm seeing people becoming more sceptical. i'm seeing them becoming a little bit more negative about this experiment, because that's what it is. it's an experiment. nobody really knows how this level of demographic change is going to go. and they seem to be, i think, becoming a little bit more opposed to mass immigration. is that right? >> yes. that's right. we have this interesting. >> poll from ipsos that came out recently which asked people assume that there was a trade off between reducing immigration and hurting the economy, which some economists might disagree with. but let's let's take that as their statement. and they asked people whether it was better to reduce immigration, even if the economy ought to do the reverse. and amongst the general public figures were 62% were in favour of restricting immigration, with only 24% the other way. but then ipsos. >> so a majority of peo

but i'm joined tonight by top pollster and ceo and founder of electoral calculus, martin baxter.tin, the mood music on immigration out there in the country is changing, is it not.7 i'm looking at polls. i'm seeing people becoming more sceptical. i'm seeing them becoming a little bit more negative about this experiment, because that's what it is. it's an experiment. nobody really knows how this level of demographic change is going to go. and they seem to be, i think, becoming a little bit more opposed to mass immigration. is that right.7 >> yes. that's right. we have this interesting. >> poll from ipsos that came out recently which asked people assume that there was a trade off between reducing immigration and hurting the economy, which some economists might disagree with. but let's let's take that as their statement. and they asked people whether it was better to reduce immigration, even if the economy ought to do the reverse. and amongst the general public figures were 62% were in favour of restricting immigration, with only 24% the other way. but then ipsos. >> so a majority of