this was an absolute, total beating in the electoral college. they should never lose the

the electoral college is different. would rather have the popular vote because it's, to me, it's much easier to win the popular vote. brian: totally different set of goals as opposed to electoral college. >> we have electoral college. i got 306, she got what, 223. there was no way to break 270. i heard that on cbs and nbc, abc, they're all fake news. i heard that for so long and cnn but i heard that for so long. there is no way. so what they're trying to do is suppress the vote. everyone goes home and says, you know, i really like donald trump but i have watched on the news and they don't know it is fake news. i have taught them it is fake news. i watched on the news that he can't win. so let's go to movie darling and we'll come home and watch donald lose. brian: they go with the darling home, or go to the movies. let's talk about -- >> i do better than people think. the economy is so strong and jobs are so good, that i think we're going to surprise. we won an election yesterday in arizona. nobody talks about it. they h

dynamic that you will see through a lot of our simulation is even when republicans are winning the electoral college they are still losing the popular vote if we base went off of 2016. as we go forward in time, this starts to fallout not as quickly as it appears. this electoral strategy would hold for republican party between 2020-2020. if there ever will increase the able to increase the margin among these groups they would hold onto electoral college and 2028 but we see georgia and north carolina in wisconsin, ate venue, michigan, nevada eventually go blue the demographic change is occurring, overwhelming even in this increase in support that they saw. so these are not all of our simulations. we did 37 in total but i don't want to put everybody into a light coma, but in good head off to my colleague ruy teixeira who will walk through some changes in the white-collar vote. >> great, thanks, rob. we got a few more simulations for you. hope everybody is staying awake in this numbers extravaganza. in these simulations were going to feature an attribute of our new simulations that's very important witc

this would result in a very narrow one point electoral college win by the republican party. the reason that would happen is because the maine second district are some of you might remember in 2016, maine apportions its electoral votes are not known who wins the statement also wins than the congressional district. it went towards donald trump, and he got one electoral college vote. because single vote we would anticipate in a situation where third-party voters went home and everybody else turned out to vote. anything else did the same that it would be a a republican, a very narrow republican win in 2020. what happens as we go forward? business 2020. i'll walk through some of the results and give you timeline is 2036. essential in 2024 we see florida flipping to the democratic column just a result of demographic change. in 2020, we with the north carolina and 2032 would be arizona and georgia. all of the states going blue activity states that were once a deeper red now going sort of a lighter red republican. democratic wins all the way out to be a democratic win of 350 by 2036.

and this would result in a very narrow, one-point electoral college win by the republican party. and the reason that would happen is because of maine's second district. as some of you might remember in 2016, maine apportions its electoral votes by not only who wins the state but the congressional districts and maine's second went towards donald trump and he got one electoral college vote there. because of that single vote we would anticipate in a situation where third-party voters went home, and everybody else sort of turned out to vote and everything else stayed the same, it would actually be a republican, very narrow republican win, in sort of 2020. so what happens as we go forward? this is 2020. i'll walk through the results and give you an end point the end of our timeline is 2036. but in 2024, florida will flip into the democratic column as a result of demographic change. in 2028, we'd see north carolina go, in 2032, it would be arizona and georgia. going blue and the states once all of those states sort of going blue and the states once sort of a deeper red going sort of a l

you will see through a lot of our simulations, is that even when republicans are winning the electoral college, they're still losing the popular vote if we baseline off of 2016. as we go toward in time, this starts to fall out sort of not as quickly as it appears here. this electoral strategy actually would hold for republican party between 2020 and 2028. if they were able to increase their margins among these groups, they would hold on to the electoral college until 2028. over that time we would see georgia, north carolina, wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan, nevada, eventually sort of go from blue as the demographic change is still occurring in the states. sort of overwhelming the increase in support they saw. so, these aren't all of our simulations. we did 37 in total, but i don't want to put everybody into a light coma. i'm going to hand off to my colleague rudy teixeira who will walk us through changes in the white college vote. >> great, thanks, rob. we got a few more simulations for you. hope everybody is staying awake in this extravaganza. and in these simulations, we're going to featur

democrats are losing the electoral college might hear that now. >> i'm just going to add the scenarios we come up with are generally right and in the right direction they'll show it for her publica winds in the upper college--the speculation was perhaps it could go the other way. perhaps al gore would win the electoral college and i guess one other bit of wisdom was really hard to have a split that pro college. we have disproven that in some of these scenarios are going further and further apart. so i don't doubt that the demographic is playing towards states. there are surprising trends we are not paying attention to. there are some places where the vote that really matter. perhaps we are not seeing some of these things but i do think the data is showing that. >> lets go here. >> one thing i thought of was the wall which is the most visceral anti-immigrant image the tis donald trump to a lot of places where people did not think that was possible. if it doesn't get told which i think is likely to happen with this congressional makeup or it does detract to get help and you ices arizona

. >> we have an electoral college.ot 306 and she got 223. there was no way to break 270. i heard that on cbs and nbc and abc. they're all fake news. i heard that for so long. and cnn. >> let's talk about-- >> do better than-- >> mr. president. right. we could talk to you all day, but it looks like you have a million things to do. ( laughter ) ( applause ) >> trevor: oh! oh wow. i can safely say that i've never seen a news anchor try to bail on an interview with the president of the united states. like, how is it that he was the commander in chief, but it's the couch people who have better things to do. "we'd love to keep chatting but there's a video of a dog skateboarding and we have to go, mr. president. good-bye." if you're at a party and some boring-ass dude wouldn't stop talking to you you get a drink. but they were on live television. the only thing they could come up with was trump had more important things to do when it was clear he did. no"no, actually, i have the whoe day free. after all, it's melania's birthd

several people wrote on the electoral college. in the national voting election, make that case for and against. guest: i wrote a book and i said it's hard to imagine you could have 1% of the population go one way and the electoral college go the other way but we happen -- but we had that happen the last election. it's a worrying sign that we might have a widening gap between those two and that might put a strain on it. on the positive side, we may not realize it that we vote by state on everything. we don't have representatives that represent across states. now, unless we are contemplating in a norm is change in the way we won elections, a system like the electoral college were you vote in your state and whether you win the state or not is a key is something that's been consistent with our system. changing that would mean changing more than you think. host: our guest is the director at thedemocracy project bipartisan policy center. you can read more about that. let's go to tom in texas, republican line. caller: good morning, my co

the electoral college is the same issue. you want to give voice to the smaller states, the agrarian states. if you do away with the electoral college, you change that balance. host: for our viewers that want to do more on how to make this country less partisan, go to thepresidency.org. thank markxt week, facebook ceo zuckerberg will testify before senate and house committees on facebook's handling of that information and data privacy. tuesday, at 2:15 p.m. in a joint hearing. and on wednesday at 10 :00 on c-span3, before the house energy and, committee. watch live coverage on c-span3 and c-span.org and listen live with the free c-span radio app. >>

the electoral college is different. would rather have the popular vote because it's easier to win the popular vote. i got 306 and she got, what, 223. there was no way to break 270. i heard that on cbs, nbc, abc, they're all fake news. i heard that for so long -- and cnn. i heard that for so long. there is no way. they're trying to suppress it. everyone goes home and says you know, i really like donald trump but i've watched on the news, and they don't know it's fake news, i've taught them it's fake news, i watched on the news he can't win. so let's go the movies and we'll -- >> you'll find out in the midterms if they go -- >> if you know what they're talking about on the darling and the movie, you're better than i am. i don't think the woman in the middle there, who i've been told is ansley airhart, i don't think she has an idea what they're talking about. donald trump talked to "fox & friends" this morning about other cable news shows on other networks like this one, and he said this sentence, i don't watch them at all

the electoral college college meets first, and therein lies the solution that is election of the president. but i might well be number one in the electoral college instead of number three. anyway, when i was trying to say when we have everything to gain and nothing to lose, is that if i were not a candidate for the presidency, one of the two major national parties would win the election and they are tweedledee and tweedledum. so my running for the presidency, and even if i did not win, we would be in no worse position had i not run. everything to gain and nothing to lose. >> let's ask another hypothetical question based on the premise of you winning presidency. what would you do about riots? gov. wallace: the first thing i would say as the president, i would get my moral support to the police and firemen of this country. the first thing i would do is, a continuation of the breakdown of law and how it exists in the district of columbia where we are talking today, features of -- pictures of people murdered in the streets, i would use the office of the presidency and in view of the fact that

he is looking at the electoral college map, planning his schedule. because as you know, if you're president, you have to win electoral college vote, not the popular vote. so he's looking at the map and deciding what his summer schedule would be, what states he needed to visit in order to win the election. but unfortunately he wasn't able to secure the nomination and it went to dewey who eventually went on to become the republican nominee. >> this last cartoon on presidential elections is probably our most famous cartoon and it has to do with probably the most famous election that we have and that is the 1948 presidential election where you had truman, harry truman running against thomas dewey. before the election, polls had widely forecast that dewey was going to win. and here in the cartoon we have dewey sort of saddling up to truman going over his shoulder saying, what's the use of going through this election at all? and you see here the polls that dewey is going to carry virginia that dewey will get 333 electoral college votes. but what ends up ha

had from the standpoint that it is very easy for them to have a tremendous advantage in the electoral college. and this is what it is and this is where it came from. you look at the kind of money that was paid probably some went to russia, you look at podesta having a company in russia where nothing happened and people don't talk about it, you look at the fact that their server, the dnc server was never gotten by the fbi. why did the fbi take it? the fbi takes what they want. they go in, they wouldn't get the server. this is a hoax. as far as the investigation, nobody has ever been more transparent than i have instructed our lawyers. be totally transparent. i believe we've given them 1.4 million pages of documents if you can believe this. and haven't used that i know of or for the most part presidential powers or privilege. so we are hopefully coming to the end. it is a bad thing for our country. very, very bad thing for our country. but there has been no collusion. they won't find any collusion. it doesn't exist. as far as the two gentlemen you you told me about, they have been saying i'm go

ithey vote for the electo the electoral college whose names they don't even know. it's absurd. but also, it was stolen from him in florida-- from tallahassee in all kinds of ways with kathleen harris and jeb bush. >> hinojosa: but you got 90,000 votes in florida, right? >> yeah. >> hinojosa: so if those 90,000 votes had gone for gore, then he would have won the state offl ida. >> that's not the way to look at it. the way to look at it is how die i gore before the election? did i push him to take more progressive stan which got him up in the polls, where he actually got more votes th whatever went to the green party? but you see, even the most sophisticated political analyst never looked at the preelection day dynamics. there have been some social scientist studies who have concluded that i actually, by pushing him to do what lieberman didn't want him to do... >> hinojosa: mm-hmm. ur ...by challenging the drug, oil, you know, ice companies in speeches-- remember "the people, not the powerful," that was his slogan-- that he got more votes than if i wasn't even ithe arena. but it'

>> on the 14th amendment, and the electoral college i really do agree with many people that the electoralcollege is antiquated, out of date, unnecessary and, it was put there of course to equalize, as the 3/5 clause was to equalize all these concerns about slaves and some states having too much population based on the amount of slaves, et cetera. and it was meant to be another one of those equalization clauses for the states in their own interchange and exchange of power. so i do have a concern there. i think the reality is is that to get rid of the electoral college you have to get rid of it by a constitutional amendment and right now with this congress, uh-uh. it is just not, probably feasible but it is not a bad long-term goal. i think it is something that, based upon when there is a, right congress, which we hope to have soon, that people should be really looking at that. and i was glad that you did the history because most people don't realize that by the time the 15th amendment was passed the ma "of african-american men -- majority of african-american men were voting, four million t

the bipartisan policy center recent report that identifies you swing states and the role of electoral college among other items. it should get underway shortly here on c-span2. also to let you know some of or other programming coming up this week, the supreme court will be taking t-uppercase-letter do with an internet sales tax. today legal experts will be offered a preview of the oral argument in south dakota versus wayfarer. live coverage from the heritagee foundation gets underway at noon eastern here on c-span2. also coming up tonight a look at the trump administration, the 2016 election and russia. reporters from the "new york times" and npr will be joined a discussion with marvin kalb of the kalb report and that starts live at 8 p.m. eastern on c-span3. also available online at c-span.org, and you can listen with the free c-span radio app. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]

richard nixon winning with a half-million votes, but with the electoral college vote, richard nixon with 301 electoral votes, hubert humphrey 191 and george wallace at 46. what was the nixon strategy in the general election? matthew: one was to try to not talk a whole lot of specifics about vietnam. he didn't really know. he didn't have a plan for how he the war, peaced with honor for example. he wanted to keep the focus on the unrest in the country and how he was going to be a voice for as he said in his invested address, the forgotten -- his convention address the later forgotten americans, the silent majority. that included some of the wallace voters, although they went for wallace, but working-class, primarily white americans in the south and the north, all over the country, middle-class suburbanites. the idea that the cities were out of control, that campuses were out of control, that these really a front to a fundamental american values, he tapped into that strain and as well the strategy was that on the left, he could be in the center right. he had wallace far to his right or to h

the electoral college set that was all states can have more or less equal saying the outcome. and so, if the argument is that if we get rid of that, would that be, so the question you're asking is, with a good thing? positively or like -- [laughter] thank you gail. >> is just a matter republicans having a better strategy for the past election rather than looking at the pitfalls of hillary she was aggressive enough for -- >> think about is that's a good question. think about this though. so, you know, democrats won michigan with some regularity, right? they won wisconsin with some regularity, right? you know we have a hard-core -- so, in that case it was not about the electoral college in the sense that democrats normally win those issues that you did not get enough turnout. so i just think in this particular case, i think this was not a great candidate! she did not aspire a whole lot of passion from everybody. and so i think that if you had a better candidate, if you will, blows asked me, what if bernie had got the nomination? i would say bernie got the nomination i think demo

donald trump was democratically elected whether you like it or not, it in accordance with electoral college i know that our investigations going into russian interference or interference by outside factors but there's no evidence of anyone stuffing ballot boxes. it's all suggestibility and masses online and so on. you just have to be quite careful about what you're saying about the system in that regard. what you do about keeping people engaged -- what was the second part of your question? >> gerrymandering, restricting the vote, electing judges were going to vote only your way. >> yes. okay. traditionally, , whichever party is in power here appoints judges to the viewpoints. you know. the trump administration is not doing anything new there. and that is the rights and taliban of whatever party is in power. >> gerrymandering would you just mentioned is anathema to the principles upon which the country was founded. where you would in theory have people choose their leaders. now we have a system where our leaders choose their voters. i do think that the supreme court, they will rule on this a

we have electoral college, my dear. >>>> which, donald trump himself was against the electoral collegen his favor. and then it's a wonderful system. wewe all know it's antiquated ad that she would mark the popular vote and we want to count 3 million people's votes. >> sean: m california, new york, illinois, new jersey should determine who the president is going to be? >> a majority of women -- >> sean: you did not answer my question. we are not a democracy. we are a constitutional republic. do i need to understand educat? >> i understand the concept. people voted and thought their votes will be counted. >> sean: hui arbor a constitutional republic with an established system that is the electoral college for electing a president. let's put up the excuses hillary again, dr. gorka. she has a different excuse. there are something that i've noticed that happens to presidentialti candidates that lose. they lose their minds because theyoi never think they're going to lose. i think hillary thought it was a done deal. >> everybody did. james comey thought it was a done deal, right? rod rosenste

never too soon to start having a little fun with our electoral college maps with the country's demographicsdergoing significant shifts how will it look different than 2016? thanks to the report on the america's electoral future, we actually have some answers based on a few scenarios. now, the country is growing more diverse, so by the time the 2020 election rolls around white voters are projected to make up a smaller share of eligible voters than they did in 2016. it's a trend that we have seen for decades and while african-americans, hispanic and asians will make up a larger share. how will the changes play out in a few different scenarios? as a reminder here's what the 2016 map looked like. donald trump flipped six states obama won including three in the supposed big midwestern blue wall. pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan. so what happens if democrats are able to recreate the african-american turnout that they saw in the 2012 election? well, with more black voter s in 2020, they would take back wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania and guess what, with a 2020 turnout they would get geor

against electoral college.illy system and shouldn't be in place until it worked in his favor and then it's a wonderful system. we know it's antiquated and she won the popular vote and we will not count 3 million people's vote? >> sean: in other words, illinois, new york and los angeles should. >> -- we are a constitutional republic. i do need to educate you about that? >> completely understand the concept. >> sean: the concept. how about the reality? it's called the truth. >> people voted and they thought their votes would be counted and put down for it? >> sean: we are constitutional republic with established system that's the electoral college for electing a president. you put up -- let's put up the excuses of hillary again, dr. gorka. she has a different excuse. something that i have noticed that happens to presidential candidates that lose. they lose their minds because they never think they are going to lose. i think hillary thought it was a done deal. >> everybody can everybody did. >> sean: not me. >> ro

the electoral college are, it was set up that way so, you know, all states can have, you know, a more or less equal say, you know, in the outcome. and so if the argument is that if we got rid of that, would that be -- so the question, would that be a good thing like normatively or positively or, like or finish. >> [inaudible] [laughter] >> thank you, gayle. >> does it show that it's just a matter of republicans having a better strategy for the past election rather than looking at the pitfalls of hillary or whether or not she was progressive enough or -- >> well, okay. but think about it like this -- okay, that's a good question. think about it like this though. so, you know, democrats have won michigan with some regularity, right? they've won wisconsin with some regularity, right? even though they have a hard core, you know, republican governor, right? so in that case, it was not about the electoral colleging in the sense that democrats normally win those states, it's just you didn't get enough turnout, right? i just think in this particular case, i just think hillary wasn't a great c

>> we had this discussion a couple days ago we agreed electoral college is no longer the way to pick a president. just like the rifles and it is out of dates the electoral college is not a way to select the president. if that doesn't change certain people in certain states will not have their vote counted the same way. i do think that does need to be changed north dakota and california so i think we can pass that amendment that is how it would make sense but that is why we have lawyers. [laughter] maryland has actually passed at the state legislator can direct the electorate to vote whoever they want. so now they say after junior 70 electoral votes pass legislation then we will direct them to the popular vote there is a way to get there but those have lost twice most young people will see this and say right now to win the house the democrats have to win by several --dash 7%. got arizona. [laughter] what can i do? [laughter] >> thanks to the tax law we could be doing that. we have a system where that is the bottom democrats. it was different back then but we don't have government cont

hillary clinton won the popular vote. >> it was the electoral college. i pray that we can see people for people. we still worry about people dealing with healthcare that a woman is at the table particularly when dealing with our issues. we are still dealing with that kind of stuff. for every stride there is a drawback. i pray that we can see that happen one day. >> this will be the last question. what does your heart tell you about healing this racial divide? >> what does my heart tell me? take off the journalist had. got to stop talking at each other and find common ground and build on that. we are all people, this country was founded on bringing all sorts of people here. we love our country, we have a lot of flaws but we love and want to make it better. challenging the system does not mean you are unpatriotic. it means you want to make our country better. it means i am in this boat with you. if we are drowning you are not worried about my color but getting the water out and paddling to safety. and love each other up when we get to safety. you don't car

we can leave behind the antique vestiges of the past whether it's the electoral college were college were gerrymandered and partisan redistricting. the right to vote. affirm that most powerful belief that unites us in the dignity of every person and voice and if we do these things we are can a call forward a wellspring of goodness in our country in every generation and not just among our young. but it will be driven and led and it will be powered by our young. by where our country is going. i have no doubt that we have another 240 years of loving, giving carried generous service to give to this world and our kids but we have to shake ourselves out of the pity party we have to hold out and cast away the fear of the future that has become the steel currency of our current politics and then instead embrace it. not be afraid of the light that shines within us. look into the eyes of our kids only we can heal our country only we can save our democracy. and only we can make our children winners in a changing economy. thank you very much. [applause]. governor think you for coming the topic i

. >> but we have electoral college. >> right-- >> i got 306. got what, 223? >> right-- >> there was no way to break 270. i heard that. >> stephen: "comey is a liar, mueller is corrupt, crooked hillary deletes emails, and i'll take a large personal pan meat lover's pizza and an order of garlic knots with crazy sauce-- wait, who am i talking to? i forgot." ( laughter ) "hello? is this..." and the whole time, the whole time this is going on, the curvy couch lings just sat there stunned. just mouths slacked, glassy-eyed, wonder what to do. and we at "the late show" have obtained exclusive recordings of the "fox & friends'" inner monologues while they listened to trump unravel. >> it's an absolute disgrace. and by the way, the only collusion is the collusion with the democrats and the russians. you take a look at what's going on there. >> wow. this guy's off the rails. this is not good for democracy. >> behold the scourge we have unleashed. we are all complicit in the evil we have wrought. ♪ doo doo doo doo doo doo doo ♪ doo doo doo doo doo doo doo

the electoral college is the same issue.ou want to give voice to the smaller states, the agrarian states. if you do away with the electoral college, you change that balance. host: for our viewers that want to do more on how to make this country less partisan, go to thepresidency.org. thank you for the conversation this morning. we want to share with our viewers a couple of updates. the job numbers are out for march. unemployment remained the same, 4.1%. six is a 17 year low, straight months. 103,000 jobs added. the trump administration today sanctioned seven oligarchs with close ties to president vladimir and a business connection to donald trump's former campaign manager. we will take a short break. when we come back, we will take a look at robert atkinson's pie atlantic on the role of big business. ♪ >> this weekend, c-span cities tour takes you to norman, oklahoma. we will explore normans literary scene and culture. oklahoma complex history and divisions in our nation with her book most american. oklahoma gave the country

he talked about the electoral college.hey said democrats would always win but i found a way. this is a one-on-one with shinzo abe. he always says this should have already been solved. every past president and every past administration did a poor job. he always leaves things open ended. well, we will have a meeting, maybe we won't have a meeting. we'll see what happens. we'll see what happens. check this out. >> unless they offer us a deal that we cannot refuse, i would not go back into tpp. we'll see what happens. >> i hope you're going to tell that caravan not to get up to the border. i think they're doing that because as of 12 minutes ago, it was all being broken up. we'll see what happens. >> so we'll see what happens with the peace process. >> i'm very disappointed with the attorney general, but we will see what happens. something could happen with respect to the paris accord. we'll see what happens. >> as far as north korea is concerned, i don't know. we'll see what happens. >> we're looking at it with great care, gre

granted, she won the popular vote, but she didn't win the electoral college, and we're going to continue, as comey's book comes out, there's going to be more democrats that are going to point the finger at him. and the reality is he wasn't the one that lost the election for hillary clinton. it was hillary clinton. and until the democrats realize that they're going to continue to be preaching to the choir. >> you want to respond, angela? >> yes. what a difference 30 seconds makes. i totally disagree with alice on this point. i think there's a lot that can be blamed for the election. russia is certainly a part of it. we continue to see that each and every single day. but no, she did win the popular vote. and unfortunately, we have this thing called the electoral college, that don't benefit people, especially those that look like don and me. but that's a story for another day. >> thank you, angela. i appreciate it. the reason i said welcome back to alice, alice had a death in her family. we were all thinking but, alice. our thoughts and prayers went out with you. >> thank you, don. >> we're

it is my surprise along with everybody else that he was able to win an electoral college victory. and i think it is on me as a reporter. part of that essentially is for people like me or frankly, my mother who called the next morning and said what on earth happened? you guys in the media ultimately hillary was going to win. part of what i'm trying to do in this inrybook is go back to very beginning with hindsight and tell the story exactly how this happened and yet, people should have known better like me, were not able to see that in real time. >> host: jim in new jersey. good afternoon. >> caller: i do not have a question. i would like to make two quick comments. the first is to introduce the second comment and i will hang up and listen. i wanted to thank you for your demeanor on the last panel. you are a lone voice of reason and composure because he shared the stage with a hooligan and a harrigan. i chose those words to make a point. i heard from that stage, the word libertarian legs with words racist, fascist and kkk. that tactic is precisely what you are criticizing directly

a tariffs on the soy beans and it's going to affect wisconsin and the states that swung the electoral college for donald trump. let's switch to the map of corn production in the united states, which is also going to get hit with chinese tariffs and it also covers a similar area, and that is the sweet spot of how donald trump wins the electoral college. but it's also a possible effect in the 2018 congressional elections once these tariffs have an effect, if they go into effect. >> sure. glancing at the screen it seemed like the only really sort of surprise and critical trump state that isn't affected there is pennsylvania. i don't think there's a lot of soy bean production in pennsylvania. and i think that's one reason why you're hearing some anxiety from people like the senate majority leader, talking about tariffs, talking about where this could lead because the answer is not necessarily any place good for the economy, and not necessarily any place good for republicans in those districts that could be hit by the tariffs. >> so category 3, 4 or 5 according to mitch mcconnell, depending on how

caller: just like the gentleman was saying before about the electoral college.t is "american idol," you can get your actual vote in. why are we waiting for representatives to represent us will make an represent ourselves. we just need a dramatic shift change in the way these millennials and even baby boomers are taught what government really is. right now they are arguing in rhetoric. the dogma of america is disgusting, and we need to change it. host: "the washington times" this morning taking a look at actions from north and south korea and how that might sway talks with the north koreans. trump administration is growing and confidence that the upcoming summit with kim jong-un will achieve the aggressive denuclearization timeline washington wants. secretary of state mike pompeo saying the north korean leader is "serious" about abandoning his nuclear program. the north korean leader said outright during a meeting with the south korean president that illing to give them up totally if the pledge never to attack north korea. newly sworn in secretary of state mike p

first, i was a member of the electoral college that supported donald trump.nkins cannot say that. that position is actually reserved for those who are really trusted to vote for the president. so not only did i vote for him in the electoral college, i voted for him at the convention. i did ads comparing myself to him in the 2016 campaign. what you really have here is a very desperate candidate evan jenkins, his liberal background is being exposed. evan lincoln jenkins was for planned parenthood, stumped for john kerry, rallied for hillary clinton, supported nancy pelosi. this is a very liberal background. i think as more west virginians are learning about my conservative record, standing up for the unborn, most people need to know that i am the only endorsed candidate in this race by west virginians for life and the second of them in all the conservatives are coalescing behind my candidacy. as that happens, i think evan jenkins is just getting very desperate making up a lot of lies. i think fox did a very good job earlier today calling evan jenkins out on pho

you are taking you away from the local government. >> laura: we have the electoral college. wisconsin, other states, not just california, not just new york, not just new england. we have 50 states. and i like that. >> this is amazing. role reversal. >> laura: i want all states to have a say in who becomes president. all i'm saying, if that's 16, why not 15? why not 14? do you remember what you were doing when you were 16? give me a phone memory from 16. >> i don't think i can say those things on television. >> laura: leo? take it away. >> okay. i was playing sports, i ran for president of my high school and i won. i was mature enough and i like politics, just like you, laura. >> i was chasing girls and playing high school basketball. >> laura: oh, my god. [laughs] >> i am throwing every argument i can't think of -- >> laura: at this point, i'm not sure 54-year-old should be allowed to vote for the president. >> may be an iq test. >> laura: okay, gentlemen. i will leave it there. we love the kids. don't get me wrong. reporter cheryl atkinson is there with her insight with how