nbc is one of two nonwinner take all states for the electoral college and in '08 only aha! al vote to barack obama, for example. so there's more going on. >> stephen: all right, probably voter fraud on that one. okay, let's show a little clip from "nbc" >> there's woody's little sister. she was only 19 when she was killed in a car wreck near washington. what a whore. >> mom. >> nobody, i liked rose but my god she was a shut. now i'm just tell ug the truth. >> where's your family. >> they're in the catholic sell father. -- cemetery. >> catholics wouldn't be caught dead around all these damn lutherans. here's dell mer, woody's cousin. he was a drunk. one time we were wrestling and he felt me up. grabbed a handful of boob and woody was right there and didn't have a clue, did you wody? (applause) >> stephen: is everyone in nebraska that honest? >> one. reasons i like living there is that people are fairly plain spoken. >> stephen: uh-huh, uh-huh r there reasons you would live there because i have been there. >> yeah. >> stephen: this time of year. >> grim. >> stephen: it is grim

repeal -- i mean, the 17th amendment, the calls for the abolition of the electoral college. it seems like on the left they're always calling for more direct democracy, and i'm having trouble squaring. >> stick with that word, direct. i think that's crucial. they want more direct democracy to create a more direct centralized society so that when you control the center, you control the entire society. what they're opposed to is republicanism, small r. self-government on the local level. respondent on a -- responsibility on a state and local level. and a lively, fertile congress which is certainly something we don't have. so when you say they're in favor of direct democracy, yes, they're opposed to the electoral college. but only in the years when they lose. [laughter] other years they're quite happy. i mean, i wouldn't take this too seriously. this is something that's tactical just the way harry reid's decision to abolish filibuster is tactical. i wouldn't -- i mean, is that an example of, kind of an example of direct democracy? well, it would be a very good example of direct

they would have ten votes in our electoral college. this is no small matter.s the largest source of disenfranchisementment in our country. >> what has the trend been dale? are there states looking at their laws on felony disenfranchisement? have states put a process for restoring your vote in place. >> the trend over -- over the last new decades has been one towards greater liberalization with respect to voting rights for people who have committed offenses. now there are always ebbs and flows, and in the last few years, you have had some steps forward and some steps back. the governor in florida issued an executive order which restored the voting rights for most people who committed non-violent offenses automatically after completing their sentences. when we left office, governor scott rescinded that. 50 years ago more than half the states in the country has lifetime disenfranchisement for people who committed felonies, today it's fewer than 5. i think people understand these are not good policies. as attorney general holder noted, recidivism increases if you

since we're in all beach county, you know all about electoral college votes.ughter] jackson comes back four years later and wins but he's so mad at the party that he refuses to be a part of that, and he organizes a new party, the democratic party. >> and i'm told that he ran such a wild presidency and he brought all his son's friends, and they -- [inaudible] >> sure. you're absolutely right. yeah, jackson was a wild man. his supporters were wild men. they sometimes called jackson's tenure coonskin democracy. and on one hand everyone wore one of hose daniel boone, davy crockett raccoon skin caps because it was folks from the frontier, common folks. but what's so exciting about this is the 1828 election marked the biggest turnout, over 800,000 people voted this 1828 over what did in 1824, and we've hardly had any people. so people came out to vote, and they elected one of their own, andrew jackson. so jackson fires, basically, to the victor go the spoils? jackson basically fires everyone in government, even postmasters. and replaces them with all of his was who

seven stops that closed source software and an all visit and things to gerrymandering to the electoral college and so on and we the people will drive factor out the united states of america in the world to take our government back to the vintage of ourselves really not that an event that the distraction will concede the nasty about something than that. durban has said he doesn't fall when the senate was voting on this a common voice in opposition was senator durban. and he said about term limits he said for some members of congress two years in office it's too long and for some members of congress twenty years or not this is not long enough. who should make that decision the constitution in its wisdom says the voters of america make that decision might stand by that constitution and its language and if the good sense of the senate resolution so. do you think at some point then ultimately meeting at up to the people. i think that you can trust the darebin in size it can throw on the menu says the guy that doesn't represent the people he represents the money and the alinta few dozen people that

close source software and and all these different things to gerrymandering to the electoral college and so on and we the people will rise throughout the united states of america in the world to take our government back so these issues are so really not that i'm. a distraction christine i do want to ask you about something that durbin has said in two thousand and twelve when the senate was voting on this prominent voice in opposition was senator dick durbin and he said about term limits he said for some members of congress two years in office is too long and for some members of congress twenty years in office is not long enough who should make that decision the constitution in its wisdom says the voters of america make that decision let's stand by that constitution and its language and defeat this sense of the senate resolution so do you think he has a point there and ultimately leaving it up to the people. i think you can trust to girvan aspire as you can throw and i mean he's just a guy that doesn't represent the people he represents the money the elite a few dozen people that use the

sixty one the twenty third amendment was passed which granted the district three votes in the electoral college twelve years later and nine hundred seventy three of the d.c. home rule act was passed in the state in local government with a mayor and a thirteen member city council and then it wasn't until nineteen ninety that d.c. elected its first congressional represent representatives but not to be confused with real congressmen see here in the district we have three shadow congress members meaning that they can't even vote on the house floor only in committees mostly all they can do is really voice their opinion and hope it sticks yes just like guam and part of rico d.c. is all about taxation without representation but unlike puerto rico we are required to pay federal tax they aren't territories acquired by colonial america have even more autonomy than residents of the capital so even the smallest victories that have been achieved are continuously stunted by congress halting real legislation to grant d.c. statehood once and for all the us is the only country in the world with the so-called re

party candidacy could have would be you know in our elections very very difficult to win the electoral college with a third party run so you know we haven't seen that really any any time recently where there was a successful we could say that successful third party ross perot elected clinton yes he threw the election to clint but didn't win himself it's possible that that a similar thing can happen in two thousand and sixteen helping either candidate or denying anyone an electoral majority well i mean that's it it's hard to pick up electoral votes i mean from your gut how do you explain her incredible and even her biggest critic would say this whole resourcefulness and interesting question you know i think that she does see she is pretty resourceful she does take the opinions of lots of different people and i think that's actually like one of the best the best i think one of the things that her or her aides point out that she does you know try to get lots of opinions she doesn't know which levers of power to fall off you know she and she is very familiar with the way washington works which is

pathways influence andhis opinions penetrate this body. ,f we look at the 2012 election here is the electoral college. ,f you click on the senate there is a different set of senate elections that took place the same year. if you click on the house, there are 435 house elections that took place that same year. why would any president or any voter assume that he is going to independentlyver elected institutions? let's think about the court. enclosed within its limits, the power granted to the american courts to rule on the unconstitutionality of the laws still forms one of the most powerful barriers that has ever been raised against tyranny of political assembly. variety of the topics that the supreme court has ruled upon. they are alphabetized. it goes from a-z. let's scroll down a little bit. abortion, affirmative action, crime and punishment, elections, federal courts, search, immunity, labor, so forth. -- he had a lot to say about the courts. he was sensitive to the possibility of entry, but he was an astute observer of the courts. courts are passive institutions. they cannot do anything that they

here's the electoral college. if you click on the senate on top, there's a different set of senate elections that took place the same year. and then if you click on the house, there are 435 house elections that took place that same year. why would any president or any voter assume that he is going to have snap control over independently-elected institutions? let's go back to the slide and think about the courts. enclosed within its limits, the power granted to the american courts to rule on unconstitutionality of the laws still forms one of the most powerful barriers that has ever been raised against tyranny of political assembly. let's look at a variety of the topics that the supreme court has ruled upon. if you could see how many different topics -- not the cases, but what's more important is the topics. it literally goes from a to z. let's scroll down a little bit if you don't mind. abortion, affirmative action crime and punishment, commerce clause, elections, federal courts, search, immunity, labor and so fort

here's the electoral college. if you click on the senate on top, there's a different set of senate elections that took place the same year. and then if you click on the house, there are 435 house elections that took place that same year. why would any president or any voter assume that he is going to have snap control over independently-elected institutions? let's go back to the slide and think about the courts. enclosed within its limits, the power granted to the american courts to rule on unconstitutionality of the laws still forms one of the most powerful barriers that has ever been raised against tyranny of political assembly. let's look at a variety of the topics that the supreme court as ruled upon. if you could see how many different topics -- not the cases, but what's more important is the topics. it literally goes from a to z. let's scroll down a little bit, if you don't mind. abortion, affirmative action, crime and punishment, commerce clause, elections, federal courts, search, immunity, labor and so for

the popular vote i would remind karl rove and electoral college.ersonally for reagan in 1976 and 80 and i want you to listen. i feel certain he would be enormously proud. in fact i'll bet he would have been thrilled to stand before you write here and thank you for all you are doing and all you have done and congratulate you on this fifth anniversary of the tea party movement. i think it's appropriate to end my comments with a truism from president reagan which is the last paragraph from ibooks liberty and tyranny which most of you have heard i now but i'm going to repeat it anyway. for those of you who haven't. reagan rode freedom is never one generation away from extinction. we didn't pass it to our children in the lead stream. it must be fought for, protected and handed on for them to do the same for one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children's and our children's children what it was once like in the united states when men were free. you folks, you are an inspiration to people like me and millions of others. it's a great honor to

the seventeenth amendment, the call for the abolition of the electoral college. they are always calling for more direct democracy. >> to with the word direct. that is crucial. they want more direct democracy to create a more directly centralized society. so that when you control the center you control the entire society. what they are opposed to is republicanism, self-government on the local level. responsibility on state and local level. and a lively, fertile congress which is certainly something we don't have. when you say they are in favor of direct democracy they are opposed to the electoral college only to use when they lose. other years they are quite happy. i wouldn't take this too seriously. this is something that is tactical just the way harry reid's decision to abolish the filibuster is tactical. is that an example of direct democracy? would be a very good example of direct democracy because it precludes debate and discussion. that is the purpose of the filibuster. it is deeply anti constitutional. deeply anti constitutional. not in a literal sense but

and in his magnanimous way, he criticized the electoral college system and simplified the argument overlly won that election. >> i disagree with almost all of this. it's clearly wrong, as the man getting the most votes not becoming president would be. when something like that happ s happens, people resakai. they feel strongly about it. and the issue here is not whether it will be easier or harder to count the votes. i mean, that is really a secondary matter. and, i mean, the question is, when you count the votes in a matter that will be judged fairly, who's going to get to be president? it's already clear that no matter how you count the votes nationally, gore will have the most. >> he was the political junkie's junkie. everybody wanted to reach for him. when i first got the job, marty reached out to me, simply to wish me luck. when i wanted perspective on covering the campaign, especially in these days of polarized media, there was no better person to sit down with than marty to get some advice or simply to commiserate with. of course, i'm not alone. cbs's bob schieffer told politico t

we have to get rid of the electoral college.hat would be a good thing to do in a constitutional convention. this is an absurdity held over from slavery. there are things we need to do but i would think the right would join with the left and say every human being, every citizen has the right to vote. and that means if you have a felony, you don't lose your citizenship. in fact, while you are in prison, ballots all to be -- ballots ought to be brought to you. you are still a citizen. why shouldn't you vote? why not? why do you get disqualified from being a citizen because you committed a crime? we should extend the vote, we should do a way with gerrymandering, we should get phony money out of politics. >> we are about halfway through. >> my name is adam. i am head of the atheist's humanist agnostics on campus. one quick comment, evangelical groups outweigh the lgbtq groups. just one of them probably outnumbers us. the idea there is less of them than a particular minority i think is absolutely unfounded. >> remember i said faculty.

they look at your electoral that they they know can get control of the electoral college and that gives them the power to pick your president. once ak at california, reddish purple state. now it is solidly blue. even orange county, the most conservative region in your country wants, is now purple. all done deliberately by marxist using illegal immigrants, using voter registration drives that makes the latino community a plan. now, the head of the immigration reform movement in this country right now is a man called alistair medina. until recently the executive vice president of the sei union. he served on obama's immigration committee. driving the bill that went through your senate and he is working with people like luis gutierrez out of illinois to get a bill through your house. he is the man. now, to take you back a little bit to prove a point. which organization in this country 20 years ago was the most hard-core anti-illegal immigrant? which organization was constantly lobbying congress to increase penalties for anybody who employed illegal aliens? the unions. the afl-cio. the cause

no coincidence, that hillary clinton chose florida, a very important state in the electoral college as one of her premier speeches. as for inclusion and equality, isn't that the liberal mantra? they have utilized that statement, that theme and they have beat it to death to actually get out the black vote, hispanic vote, women around she said it is time to bring the poor the women and also the young into the political debate. jon: well, also not lost on us, that she was, you know, citing the memory of dr. martin luther king, jr. as part of this speech. i mean obviously that is going to be a key constituency if she is to announce her candidate, her candidacy in 2016. the black vote is going to be pivotal in any aspirations she might have to the white house. >> the black vote, the hispanic vote. you know president obama won by getting young adult vote but all of those audiences, the populist by this name, all have been hurt the most by liberal policies. whether it is hillary, whether it is biden, i do believe in 2016 you have a republican in the white house. people want true change. not t

here is the electoral college. there is a different set of senate elections.nd if you click on the house, there are 435 house elections that took place that same year. .. what's more important is the topics. italy goes from a-z. -- into literally goes from agency. let's scroll down a little bit if you don't mind. abortion, affirmative action. crime and punishment, citizenship, elections, federal courts, search, unity, labor and so forth. the courts, de tocqueville had a lot to say about the courts. he thought americans were terrifically litigious in a way. very sensitive to the possibility of entry but he was an astute observer about the court in the we struggled this explain to students. they can do anything they think is unconstitutional. until there's a live case or controversy that comes to. he recognized that. even with that inherent passivity there's an enormous body. binder number three is going to have three supports. the first one is party. channels for information and expression, party. here tocqueville tries to separate between parties that are fash

. >> as we talk about the presidential election, we have the electoral college so it's not exactly mostt the house there's this story of how the democrat base is more and more concentrated in metropolitan areas. so you have a lot of democrat districts where the democrat wins 80% of the voters. the republican vote is actually spread out a little more. so there are more districts that are republican friendly. the republican will only get 60%. but that adds up to a republican majority that's very hard fordemocrats to break through even when the republicans are on the wrong side of the issues. >> well you can't gerrymander yourself into a better place in the history books. it's an honor being here with these folks on the panel. it's not going to hurt a lot of southern congressmen to oppose any immigration reform. you can't win the white house with 70% of the latino vote. if you're in a district down south, you don't care about winning the white house, you care about keeping your job. it's going to help you. it's not leadership. it's keeping your job long enough until the lobbiest job offer

we have to get rid of the electoral college.hat would be a good thing to do in a constitutional convention. this is an absurdity held over from slavery. there are things we need to do, but i would think the right would join with the left and say every human being, every citizen has the right to vote. and that means if you have a felony, you don't lose your citizenship. in fact, while you are in prison, ballots all to be brought to you. you are still a citizen. why shouldn't you vote? why not? why do you get disqualified from any citizen because you committed a crime? we should extend the vote, we should do a way with gerrymandering, we should get phony money out of politics. >> we are about halfway through. >> my name is adam. i am head of the atheist's agnostics on campus. one quick comment, evangelical groups.ut way the lgbtq just one of them probably outnumbers us. the idea there is less of them than a particular minority i think is unfounded. >> i said faculty. >> faculty, of course. a question i have, you were about religio

honestly i really didn't have a lot of confidence in electoral politics intil you know i was easing up on thirty one thirty two years old i had gone to college to go on law school and was working as a public defender and actually probably lawyer when i met paul wellstone who really kind of offered an example of somebody who could do electoral politics in a way harmonize with his values in an authentic way and he actually got to change my mind on the possibility of electoral politics delivering good outcomes for regular people i think he changed a lot of people's lives and and i think one of the yeah and i think you're following that tradition i mean you're welcome only now i can tell you i'm in a number of people who i've encountered in my life and what we're both short. i mean he's. also. i've never met him i. could like. you're a member of the congressional progressive caucus you know what is what does that mean to you well you know you can't do anything in politics myself just can't and if you play along the best you could do in politics alone is sort of play a kind of a paul revere figure you can sort of cry out loud about injustice. the