they vote for the electors in the electoral college whose names they don't even know. it's absurd. but also, it was stolen from him in florida-- from tallahassee in all kinds of ways with kathleen harris and jeb bush. >> hinojosa: but you got 90,000 votes in florida, right? >> yeah. >> hinojosa: so if those 90,000 votes had gone for gore, then he would have won the state of florida. >> that's not the way to look at it. the way to look at it is how did i affect gore before the election? did i push him to take more progressive stands which got him up in the polls, where he actually got more votes than whatever went to the green party? but you see, even the most sophisticated political analyst never looked at the preelection day dynamics. there have been some social scientist studies who have concluded that i actually, by pushing him to do what lieberman didn't want him to do... >> hinojosa: mm-hmm. >> ...by challenging the drug, oil, you know, insurance companies in speeches-- remember "the people, not the powerful," that was his slogan-- that he got more votes than if i wasn't even

the electoral college. the big states and small states. small states are worried the big states will always elect the president. o assuage their concerns the deal was made that you could only cast one vote. one of those two boats were someone summoned from your own state and the other had to be cast for someone from another state which give a small states a better chance. but then they started worrying, and you have all played this kind of game, if you want that one vote for your on guy in your own state to be really important heathrow where the second vote. you expanded on jim who doesn't have a chance. to prevent that finally getting to the answer they invented the vice presidency. the idea was the person i got ththe second highest number of votes would then become vice president. that seemed like a pretty good idea but then i started worrying what was he going to do? [laughter] and it's so interesting to see how the thing just builds up. they decided he needed a job and they would make him president of the senate. by the end of the cons

so by 1960 democrats were able with jack kennedy to recover the electoral college votes from texas. they had both senators and they have the vice president of texas lyndon johnson and as michelle quickly pointed out that the 181 members of the state senate and statehouse there is not a single republican. the only republican in any significant office in the whole state of texas other than two or three justices of the peace, i don't even think there was a county commissioner or certainly not a county judge who was a republican in any of the 254 counties. the only republican at any office was a congressman by the name of bruce alger from the dallas area and he was the lone single republican. now flash forward to 2014 and what is the situation in texas. so totally different. this year a fall 29 statewide officials when they were elected were elected as republicans at every election since 1996 there has not been a democrat elected to statewide office since 1994. that's 20 years of 29 because we elected a whole slew of judges statewide in texas. there were 29 elected positions statewide.

they had once genre covered -- again recovered the electoral college votes from texas. if you remember, eisenhower was able to carry texas with the support of the conservative democrat establishment in both 1952 and 1956. and so by 1960 democrats were able with jack kennedy to recover the electoral college votes from texas. they had both senators, they now had the vice president from texas, lyndon johnson. and as michelle quickly pointed out, of the 181 members of the state senate and state house, there was not a single republican. the only republican in any significant office in the whole state of texas other than maybe two or three justices of the peace -- i don't even think there was a county commissioner or certainly not a county judge who was a republican in any of our 254 counties. the only republican of any office was a congressman by the name of bruce alger from the dallas area. and he was the lone, single republican. now, just to flash forward to 2014 and what is the situation in texas? it's totally different. this year of all 29 statewide officials that when t

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doesn't have to run for re-election and he doesn't have to worry about winning florida in the electoral college, he can afford to do the right thing and stop -- and get us out of this hypocritical position. the idea that you can have diplomatic relations with china and far more -- or just as oppressive regimes as cuba and not cuba is absurd. so it's a good thing. >> ok. so he's going to be remembered as a president who managed to turn around a half century of icy relations or no relations really with havana and other countries, too particularly those nuclear talks with iran and those efforts he's been making in burma are part in parcel, perhaps, are areas that he can do something because some of the other areas his hands look tied, don't they? >> he's still too cautious and he's -- and with iran and cuba he's under pressure from the domestic political lobbies that don't want to see relations restored normally with either country. so you're going to have to wait and see what marco rubio, the senator from florida, the republican senator from florida who will become chairman of the senate foreign

in michigan, and i believe in virginia, they've introduced legislation to change the way the electoral collegeoted and allocated from winner take all to, on the basis of the gerrymander districts, what happened in the current election in florida, you see rick scott was losing to charlie cris, and then by sheer money, which citizens united has made available, and hundreds of millions of llars, in the last few weeks he was behind and then rode check and had saturated the airwaves. i'm watching the news, and there would be an anti-crist ad, an anti-crist ad, two minutes of news, an anti-crist ad, an anti-crist ad, an anti-scott ad, an anti-crist ad. and rick scott ends up winning. the totality of all the voter suppression making it hard for people to register, making it then harder for people to vote, if they are registered, changing the way the electoral college vote is going to be allocated, and that legislation will be introduced in the spring of 2016, so it will be impossible to have it undone by the courts. host: rebecca berg, a few topics from political ads to what voters have to do when th

the president was elected by a college, electoral college who themselves were appointees of the state legislatures, and the judiciary, the third branch of government, was simply a court of appeals. it had no power. it had power to hear appeals of cases from lower courts and either uphold or deny the decisions of the lower courts. chief justice or marshall stepped in at a time when washington had just died and the successor founding fathers -- john adams, thomas jefferson, alexander hamilton, aaron burr, all of them comrades at one point either comrades at the continental congress and declaration of independence or comrades in battle in the case of aaron burr and alexander hamilton -- they were all i clawing at washington's fallen mantle. they all wanted to be president. and jeffson, of course, won in 1800 and immediately dissolved the supreme court, rammed a new judiciary act through congress which sent all the justices riding circuit for two years. so the supreme court didn't meet for two years. adams, in his last four years of office, had rammed through laws, the famous alien and se

if it was a tie in the electoral college, it was thrown in the house ohouse of representativesd they would vote. well, they voted 36 times and nobody could get a majority. 36th ballot, hamilton tovinced a few federalists come over. bitter, he will not let burr loose. haven't and jefferson is plotting against him. burr and hamilton have their famous duel. burr kills hamilton. has a republican -- republican attorneys in new york and new jersey charge burr with murder. murder.asn't dueling was perfectly legal in new jersey. it was illegal in new york, but it didn't take place in new york. took place in new jersey. to escapeees new jersey and eventually comes trialo washington for the chase, who was being impeached. and the trial was in the sphat. burr is still president of the senate. he's still vice president. trial in a that magnificent way. great,hailed as truly a great judge in that case. he then resigns, because he knows jefferson is chasing him. at the senate was in tears the time, as he spoke, and as he resignation. he goes out. jefferson won't let him alone. him.nds troops after

florida has the fourth largest number of votes in the electoral college. the department of commerce which takes the senses in this country tells us after the 2000 census, they believe florida will move into a tie with new york with 29 electoral votes. but this is how you would explain the forces driving u.s. policy toward any country. economicxture of security and political interests. we have a set of tightly, tightly structured believes -- beliefs that control the way we act when we perceive a threat to our interests from cuba. you will work with computers. you go in in the morning and it boots up the operating system, windows, probably. a group of icons on the screen. one of them says e-mail, another of them says web or word or excel. think of a foreign policymaker in washington dc doing the same thing mentally. when they go into the room in a chair of the meeting says we have a problem with cuba, in just a second, what everybody in that room does is mentally move them are -- move the cursor to the cuba icon and click on it. ist comes into their head dist

but look, florida has the fourth largest number of votes in the electoral college. the department of commerce which takes the census in this country, tells us after the census they believe florida will move into a tie with new york for electoral votes. but, look, this is how you would explain the forces driving u.s. policy toward any country. as a mixture of economic security and domestic political interest. what makes the cuban relationship so intriguing is the ideology, the belief that underlie these everyday interests. we have a set of tightly structured beliefs that controls the way we react when we perceive a threat to our interests from cuba. think. do you work with computers? ok. you know you go in in the morning, turn on your computer. it boots up an operating system, windows probably, boots it up and very soon you have facing you on the screen a group of icons. one of them says e-mail, web another one says word and excel. you are all with me? ok. think of those in washington doing the same thing when they go into a room and the chair says we have a problem w

but look, florida has the fourth largest number of votes in the electoral college. the department of commerce which takes the census in this country tells us after the to the believeensus they florida will move into a tie with new york for electoral votes. but, look, this is how you would explain the forces driving u.s. policy toward any country. as a very mixture of economic security and domestic political interest. what makes the cuban relationship so intriguing is the ideology, the belief that underlie these everyday interests. we have a set of tightly structured beliefs that controls the way we react when we perceive a threat to our interests from cuba. think. do you work with computers? ok. you know you go in in the morning, turn on your computer, it boots up an operating system, windows probably, boots it up and very soon you have facing you on the screen a group of icons. one of them says e-mail, but one web, another one says word and excel. you are all with me? ok. think of those in washington doing the same thing when they go into a room and the chair says w

is many states including the states that you really want to have if you're going to win the electoral college, call, texas, new york, all of these states have subjective intent requirements. the government has never shown that states had any problems protecting the pob lus from fear. >> thank you, counsel. the case is submitted. >> on the next washington journal, congressman henry quare. and then stephen ellis of taxpayers for common sense will be here to analysis the federal funding bill and talk about taxes and spending included in the legislation. washington journal live every morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. you can join the kofgs on facebook and twitter. >> hear and view the kmenlts we recently received from our view irz. >> i'm very interested in this program on the american indians. i didn't watch the whole thing. i came in and found it. when i turned the tv on and watched what i could for about an hour and a half. this program is absolutely wonderful. if it's going to be on again, get you a bigger audience by notifying all the local genealogical societies and asking them to spr

they have to get enough to cover the electoral college and get elected. so our last caller said that it is not a good idea to have another moderate republican. oh, our friend melissa is all gone. robert is in arlington heights, illinois. hi, robert. caller: hi, how are you doing? host: go ahead, sir. he is : the problem is -- not and established republican like george bush, mitt romney, what have you. big money decides everything. so you have the democrats on the bushes and romney's on the other side. host: okay. thank you, sir. a couple of tweets -- america is virtue to the. donna says -- that would suck if it were a bush or clinton in 2016. the the report -- is a palin was cheney field of -- caller: i believe that if the republicans don't get together, will have serious problems fighting obama side. continuing use in to fight over funding the government and every little fight that comes up. we need to show the people that with a move forward republican senate and a republican congress. the nation that rolls around, the country will see that the republic

with the election of 1864, is the outcome seems so obvious. 55% of the popular vote, a huge electoral college majority, and so there just haven't been a lot of books done on the election of 1864, because i think scholars look at the campaign and the outcome and they just don't think there's something new to say. >> you know, i would -- let me put a plug-in for somebody who is on this panel. if you had asked me, let's say six months ago, i would have agreed with what both frank and harold said about the two best books. and i would certainly think long is definitely one. john wall's is also good. it's a good read. but i would replace wall. i would now say that the two best books for me, for the '64 election, would be david long's and my friend here, john white's, which i think -- i don't agree with everything that john says if in there, but i think it's a very important book, that if you want to understand the '64 election particularly the soldiers' vote, which everyone says who has written about the '64 election, says it's a critical element of that. you need to deal with john's book. so... >>

the electoral college, again, without these states, i mean democrats have not won any of these nine states't think. i think maybe clinton won his home state of arkansas. those kinds of things have happened. these are states -- bill: gore lost tennessee in 2000 and. had he won his own state would be a very different world. ed, does the republican nominee or nomination run through the south? >> well -- bill: invariably in 2016. >> certainly, very, very important. we have good candidates. bobby jindal, governor of louisiana, former governor mike huckabee. governors that come out of that base. interesting thing, my friend joe is exactly right on premise, with the exception of obama, the only president who has won modern times and jimmy carter and bill clinton was southerner. to get locked out of that base, obama had extraordinary black turnout changed dynamics. the white vote is become extraordinary vote for republicans. 70% of the vote in last midterm was white voters. unfortunate the way it is but it is. my sense polls indicate a very close competitive race, two or three southern states that

fact of the matter is many states including the states you would want to have if you win the electoral college, california, texas, new york, all of these states have subjective requirements and the government has never shown that those states have had any trouble protecting the populace from fear. >> thank you, counsel. the case is submitted. >> recently sat down with a retiring members of congress to get their thoughts about their time in office to hear about the personal legislative achievements. tonight, see our interviews with the house ways and means committee chair congressman dave camp and armed services committee chair, buck mckeon. here's a preview. >> i knew i wanted to get on the ways and means committee. others they work harder welfare reform and adoption issues and trade issues. but at that time, the steering committee was called the committee on committees. so you are in a government process. it really is the campaign about the folks on that committee who determines who gets a seat on the committee like ways and means. so you are talking to remember on the committee and there's a

that then rewrites the political map of the united states because there's a huge swing in the electoral college from the north to the south which is part of story about ronald reagan gets elected in 1980 but also then creates these desert states that have huge populations and while locally it's all the problems of how to keep people gold in a hot department, the hummingbird effect is you've got to get these people water and that is hard to do and there is made not to be enough water to support 10 million people living in the desert. so that's what it's really important to keep our eye on these lateral consequences because that's often where the downside of the march of progress comes from. creates a new problem that has be solved with a new set of technologies and that's a we have solely ratchet our way forward. i think we have time for one more question. all the way over there. >> i was wondering regarding your wish that your children be passionate about their curiosity, given that you have studied so much enthusiasm about the development of culture and history. did you from the things he stud

presidential races are countrywide even though we have an electoral college, they are not state likee saw in the midterm elections. presidential races are countrywide even though we have an electoral college, they are not state like we saw in the midterm elections. a state like california or texas or florida or new york will have a greater impact on presidential elections when you have more minority-based voters coming to the polls. they do not come as often. the republicans have to deal with immigration but you listen to leslie on the phone and there is a hard-core constituency of the ones who show open primaries who have very distinct feelings on this issue. . guest: where we come from is political consulting. we are not talking about whether the policy should be an acted on but where these people should get elected. host: what is your experiment in the area? guest: i have been on for presidential campaigns. we have had to run these demographic numbers me talk about jeb bush jumping into a lead, i left these articles. all that matters is iowa, new hampshire and north carolina. it's

presidential races are countrywide even though we have an electoral college, they are not state like in the midterm elections. a state like california or texas or florida or new york will have a greater impact on presidential elections when you have more minority-based voters coming to the polls. they do not come as often. the republicans have to deal with immigration but you listen to leslie on the phone and there is a hard-core constituency of the ones who show open primaries who have very distinct feelings on this issue. . guest: where we come from is political consulting. we are not talking about whether the policy should be an acted on but where these people should get elected. host: what is your experiment in the area? guest: i have been on for presidential campaigns. we have had to run these demographic numbers me talk about jeb bush jumping into a lead, i left these articles. all that matters is iowa, new hampshire and north carolina. it's obvious that the jeb bush name has immediate recognition. every republican candidate in some of the democratic candidates will be elevated

. -- i feel like we are pounding in getting more kids through college electors graduating from high school. both parties have been guilty of that of this problem. democrats'natural inclination is to solve from washington. they can't do that. they can pass laws that asked the bureaucracy. george w. bush fell into the same trap with no child left behind hunt. a prescriptive attempt to fix schools from d.c. with my colleague and i tried to lay out is a different way of thinking about the federal role in the antithesis of centralizing power over decision-making and it is to default out to actors folder to the ground who can actually solve problems. in his wonderful chapter, allow people through trial and error figure out better ways to solve the problems they face in their local area in their school district in particular school. have washington retreat from it but bear in mind create space for problem solvers to do their work. >> you've said some green stuff about this, leaving more space between the federal government for local government, institutions that are not the government. we tend to

it was looked at who is going to get the college electoral votes.r the embargo or against the embargo and that was the issue. fortunately, younger cuban americans feel like they would like to visit cuba and like to see more democracy, but, listen, if we can do business with china, if we can do business with vietnam, we got to work our way up. >> what do you say to that? both what the congressman is saying we're already doing business with china and vietnam and so much of the rest of the world is already doing business with cuba. >> two or three things. first of all, to address the congressman's point. this idea of doing business with cuba. credit worthiness. cuba is 178th. one country has a poor record, that is north korea. the idea that we're trading with cuba significantly is just not going to be the case. what's happened here is that the president will now extend credits to cuba and cuba will do what it has done with other countries and get additional lifeline now that venezuela oil is deninshiiminishidiminishing. if you're concerned about terror