the electoral college is the decider, not popularity.ed in the smaller counties controlling the electoral. that was david wasserman's point i think is to discuss the map and to draw attention to the fact that there's a scenario where the president could actually lose the popular vote by 5 million, 3 million last time, 5 million this time, and still pull off an electoral college victory, maybe by as thin a margin as one vote. don't get sucked in by the national polls that show the head to head matchups is the point for all of us on both sides of the aisle. what else came in? i think democrats are making it too easy for president trump to be reelected with far left agenda. they are catering to states that were already going to vote democratic regardless. forget trump expanding. dems need to expand. i think a good point of what you're discussing was what happened this week with joe biden. joe biden is being asked to apologize because of a point that he made about civility. was it made in an awkward manner? yeah, it was, but it's a story tha

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most republicans agreed with getting rid of the electoral college, too, until the electoral college overruled2030s when it's not clear which party is going to benefit. >> where does this come from in you internally? >> it comes from a real thirst for fairness. when i look at how unfair our system has become, it makes me deeply worried that is leads to a cynicism that actually helps produce some of the dynamics that led a lot of people who don't like this president to vote for him just as a vote to burn the house down. you see a lot of that here in the industrial midwest. it also comes from -- >> anti-government feeling. >> a sense that everything let us down. the economy, the government. i get that. it's note going going to get b >> reporter: buttigieg wants to target gerrymandering and voter suppression especially in minority neighborhoods. >> firthere's a pattern in wher it's hardest to vote. often unfortunately that pattern overlaps with the ugliest parts of our history when it comes to racially motivated voter suppression. >> are you the right vessel to be delivering this or right medium

that they are proposing for a compact among the states where a state constituting a majority of electoral collegeed to cast their electoral votes in accordance with the winner of the national vote but that is not to ignore the electoral college but that's to work around it. mark: i am not saying their lawless and i don't know how you would ignore the electoral college is a practical method but could not the argument be made -- let me try this, could the argument be made that they've knocked down most of the obstacles that were problematic? as you said earlier there's no dispute anymore over the new deal and no dispute on immigration and it's a political dispute where the power is but there's no dispute about most of these things anymore so just a matter of exploiting. >> well, we have disputes over different things at different eras and we have plenty of important constitutional disputes. today it is true that when something has been thoroughly hashed out and the american people seem edified by the resolution that tends to be regarded as solid. mark: i think they've done a hell of a good job of t

abolished electoral college, 13 small states who will stop this and that is all it takes. medicare for all and taking a weight 180 million people's private health insurance, not going to happen. impeaching a president and removing him from office, not going to happen. what are they thinking? >> dana: i listen to a podcast this morning and it was a debate between socialist democrats and classical liberalism as they were describing it in the internal squabble was quite interesting and i don't know if they can pull it together to fight back against a reelection. >> what the socialists are saying is it failed everywhere but let's give it another try. why? >> dana: they are convinced they can do a better. >> of course they are. i suggest they go to the department of motor vehicles and renew their license. have a good sustained interaction with the government and then tell me if they want that more manipulative. the one that's not just for washington. this will be read for a long time. explanation, thank you. new concerns with facial recognition technology could pave the way for

to come back to power to think well they preferred triumph over over clinton because of the electoral college not by the popular vote if we actually elected our leaders like all the other g 20 countries she would have been president she did get the most vote on fortunately the way the system is drawn up now you can game in and we've had multiple presidents now in the last 20 years that did not get the popular vote but they became president well it's a it's a federation of states isn't the states have rights and so that's you know the electoral college because states it's all these other all this is i mean that's the system is the system if it was a popular vote one would argue that if it was just a popular vote and not an electoral college then trial strategy would have been different and one will that it would just go away well that's what they mean that's a nice thing that you could say i mean i don't but i know no matter what it is going to be arrested i no matter what no matter how you call it is still looking back and theorizing what could and could not have been and what should and shou

system if it was a popular vote one would argue that if it was just a popular vote and not an electoral college the trial strategy would have been different and one bill that it would just go away well that's what they mean that's a nice thing that you could say i mean i don't but i know no matter what it is going to be arrested i no matter what no matter how you call it is still looking back and theorizing what could and could not have been and what should and should not have been but the fake russia russia clearly that is been overblown by the mainstream media because it was known even before the election of people still reject. hillary and they want which i'm not trump well they went with trump because he based he picked up on some of the themes of bernie sanders was running on but you know trump you know not a true trial i mean there are a lot of the manger thing what is one of the 3 big things well you know he was picking up on t. p.p. you know you know these these large corporate trade pacts and now to trump credit you know he did get in there and pull us out of that deal right he started

you have a right to believe that donald trump believes he cannot win the electoral college without theat he got from russia last time. british prime minister teresa may told vladimir putin what a real president of the united states would have told putin. prime minister may told him to stop russia's irresponsible and destabilizing activity that threatening the uk and allies, including hostile interventions in other countries and disinformation and cyber attacks and told putin his country's use of the deadly nerve agent on british soil was a truly despicable act. today in an interview with john meachem said it makes donald trump an illegitimate president. >> no doubt the russians interfere and though not yet quantified, it showed that trump didn't win the election in 2016. he lost the election and he was put into office because the russians interfered. on his behalf. >> do you believe president trump is an illegitimate president? >> based on what i said, which i can't retract -- >> former under secretary of state wendy sherman has analysis of donald trump's admiration for murderous dicta

i also think this is about power, votes, the electoral college.hey want illegal aliens here, they want them to be counted and not answer census questions, they want credit for all these people being here mostly in sanctuary cities which is what congressional seats are based on which leads to the electoral college. this is about them maintaining power, getting more power on the backs of people that aren't supposed to be here. if they are counted in the census it helps. heather: a larger number of the electoral college. >> all about -- tony: for joining us. have a great weekend. time is 19 minutes after the top of the hour and sarah sanders out at the white house in the media wasting no time taking aim. >> he suffers from liabilities. >> i will not miss her. >> literally and figuratively will not miss her either. heather: they took aim at her the last three years so carly shimkus with reaction up next. ♪ you must not know about me ♪ you must not know about me ♪ i don't know what's going on. i've done all sorts of research, read earnings reports, loo

that's the beauty of the electoral college.ve been a proponent of the other sometimes and i change. i will tell you, the electoral college brings you to many of the states in this country. >> you have joked about a third term. you've joked about -- >> i only joke. i joke and i say, watch, i will drive chuck todd crazy. >> okay. you will -- >> yes -- >> you will accept the result, you will accept whatever happens in 2020? >> sure. >> you're going to be, you may not like it and walk out. >> i said at a speech recently, watch, we'll drive the media crazy. let's go for a third term and then a fourth. some of the media said, he is going to do it. >> speaking of driving people crazy, when you were asked about mike pence in 2024 and you paused about endorsing him as your successor, that got a lot of people going, if mike pence 100% on your ticket in 2020? >> well, 100%,y he. >> 100%? >> yes. >> he's been a terrific vice president, a friend, a lot of things. >> why did you hesitate in endorsing him? >> it was a surprise question. i was

nationwide, wants to grant statehood to puerto rico and washington, d.c., and, he says, the electoral college has outlived its usefulness. >> twice in my young lifetime i've seen the american people overruled by the electoral college. it's time for that to go because it's undemocratic. >> reporter: the presidency decided by popular vote, easy to embrace by democrats, but republicans defending rural states and red states will surely recoil. >> so, maybe when we make this reform, we set it to take effect in the 2030s, when it's not clear which party's going to benefit. but at the end of the day, i think most americans of any party ought to be able to get on board with the idea that one person, one vote, counting equally, is the fairest way to choose our president. >> reporter: he says it would strengthen our democracy. the pete buttigieg big idea harry smith, nbc news, south bend, indiana. >> more tomorrow when julian castro talks about his big idea >>> a war veteran who stunned the political establishment last fall when he suddenly dropped out of the race for kansas city mayor to deal with his

if this were hillary clinton and she won in the electoral college and said yeah, i got help and i willdirt from the other countries. these guys would be stringing her up and they go like silence of the lambs since a republican president. a named republican. >> you remember at the end of the clinton administration there was a scandal that the clinton campaign might have accidentally accepted campaign contributions. they went nuts. foreign interference. how could you do this? they were incensed. now today when you have foreign governments offering dirt on campaigns, they shrug their shoulders. they will try to keep them oust america and everywhere else. >> speak for the party. why is 90% of the republican party voters. no matter what this man said, we saw "access hollywood" and grabbing women. but fifth avenue and avenue of the americas. we would have done that, too. in every case, they say yes, sir. this is north korean behavior. >> 90% of the party fairly or not, accurately or not believes that the president is fighting for them, taking on the elites in this country and doing thing tha

the american people overruled by the electoral college.hat to go because it's undemocratic. >> the presidency decided by popular vote. easy to embrace for democrats but republicans defended red states and rural states will recoil. >> when we make this reform we set it to take effect in 2030s when it's not clear which party will benefit. at the end of the day most americans of any party ought to get on board with the idea that one person, one vote, counting equally is the fairest way to choose our president. >> he said it would strengthen our democracy. pete buttigieg big idea. harry mitt, nbc news, south bend, indiana. >>> president trump blames iran for attacks on those two oil tankers but there's one key word that casts doubt on that claim. that's next. t. scoffs ] if you say so. ♪ -i'm sorry? -what teach here isn't telling you is that snapshot rewards safe drivers with discounts on car insurance. -what? ♪ -or maybe he didn't know. ♪ [ chuckles ] i'm done with this class. -you're not even enrolled in this class. -i know. i'm supposed to

abolish the electoral college they promise.he reason they want to abolish the electoral college is it is very good for smaller states, 13 of which are all that is required to block the constitutional amendment. kamala harris says that we will eliminate private health insurance. she's walked that back a bit, but who knows. no, they are not. it is a very odd way to begin a presidential campaign by saying that we will offend 20 million americans who have other sources of private health insurance and rather like it. >> you could like john delane any or john hickenlooper, but if the ultimate goal for the democratic party is to defeat donald trump, what is the right move, to shift to the middle or shift to the left? >> shift to the middle. i keep in my pocket -- i'm going to need a bigger card. these are all the things that they have said that cause the american public to say these people are weird, they are not talking about things that i care about. terrorists in prison should be allowed to vote. end private health insurance. pack

i won 306 to 223, which was a lot, in th electoral college.t it's like you're training for the 100-yard-dash versus the mile. >> you're totally right. i don't disagree. >> i went tomichigan, she didn't go to michigan enough. i won michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. i won places that she didn't do a good job. what can i tell you? no, maybe i did a great job. i never git credit for that. they always say she was a lousy candidate. i actually think hillary clinton was a great candidate. she was very smart. she was very tough. she was ruthless and vicious. >> you'd rather run against her, wouldn't you? you only talked about her in your announcement speech. you spent a lot of time talking about her. >> , no. i'd actually rather run against biden. that would be my preference. >> why? >> sleepy joe. she was not sleepy. the electoral college is tougher for a republican to win the postlar vote -- at lea me. i feel that i go to thr places. i went to 19 or 21 states. i went to maine four timwa because i ed to get one. and i did get it. that's the beauty o

. >> because there is electoral college math behind all of this. and, listen, florida is a must win state for donald trump. if you look at the numbers we've all seen coming out of the rest belt, pennsylvania, ohio, and so forth, without florida, there really is likely no path to re-election for donald trump. florida is often referred now as a red state because republicans continue to win statewide. it is really 51-49 and the way you win a tight race like that is you have to have republicans out there voting. florida republicans have essentially a super majority in the state capitol. they just passed and the governor desantis signed a ban on sanctuary cities anywhere in the state of florida. i expect we'll hear the president talk about that tonight. so donald trump is speaking to a very targeted electoral college math constituency if you will. this is not going to be an issue that resonates in the suburbs of virginia or nauj virginia or new jersey or other places but he doesn't need to win those places. he can write those off if he can win these red

. ♪ heather: welcome back, democrats taking aim at abolishing the electoral college, oregon's governorcognize national popular vote during presidential elections. constitutional expert byron henry joins us to explain what this means for our nation, thank you so much for joining us, we appreciate it. >> glad to be with you. heather: talking about the national popular vote compact, if oregon joins in this would be what the 15th state, they'll join 15 other states, actually they would become the 15th state to vote in favor of this, how would this impact our national election? >> so far the number of states except for maybe colorado were all what we call blue states meaning they generally vote democrat at least in the last few presidential elections, colorado is purple state but shouldn't have any impact until the number of states reach 270 electoral votes which is what is necessary to elect the next president of the united states. heather: so currently what these states that are in favor of this account for 189 of the nation's 538 electoral votes; is that right? >> would be 196 after oreg

friendly towards business beijing is from the probate gene com that's the electoral system of the electoral college so his composition so any chief executive will have to. be on friendly terms with beijing if she wants to be reelected and this bill is something that the beijing government has made very clear that it wants it and it's very clear why it wants it so a lot of people from mainland china have sought refuge previously in hong kong people who were accused of corruption for example also hong kong booksellers for example have published books that were very critical of the chinese party china has abducted some of these people from hong kong they reappeared in chinese courts a clear violation of any law but don't come government has not protested against it so the suspicion that this law is supporting native with beijing at least is not something that you need a lot of time to see to come to this conclusion mathias ballinger in hong kong thank you. now at the women's world cup germany took on staying in their 2nd great game of group b. both sides won their opening match making the winner of th

everything you buy more expensive with pennsylvania indiana and ohio would just what you need for the electoral college when it is unwise of the democrats to take this approach. it is virtuous to tell the trut truth. >> one or two more calls before the house comes in democratic line. morning. >> i thought it was a good show when norquist started off the discussion with regard to the frivolous nature of attacks of imported goods but then the idea of tax policy. and then that $1 trillion that went into corporate and those taxpayers that all charge a minimum tax. how confusing is it believing that trump is for the middle class that 95 percent of the benefits. >> we will take your comment. . >> and what they said in 2017 and to be very unpopular but as you get closer there is a wonderful chart, got more and more popular and more people look to last year's tax bill in this year's tax bill. and they know they got significant tax reduction. h&r block how much the average person got a lower taxes across the board it was about 25 percent and that was a huge. the lowest income to me 12000 per couple now 24000 wi

and they want to abolish the electoral college anyway. this is what they're saying. democrats will do all this so they can cram their socialist agenda down the throats of the american people. folks, what's at stake here is our freedom. [applause] they want a single party system in america just like russia did in 1917, germany in 1933, cuba in 1959 and venezuela later in the 20th century. how did that all work out? really. each of these attempts for state control and power have failed and led to failed states every single time. you and i just cannot let this radical left take our country down that road to socialism. the only thing standing in their way right now is you and me. i am so grateful that you come to things like this because that's how we stand up to these guys. this is bigger than me, though. it's bigger than you. it's even bigger than president of the united states. this is about the future of our country. and the future of our children and our children's children. [applause] remember this. the price of socialism is freedom. the price of socialism is freed

it's the electoral college. they have to go back and recapture what trump took and win pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin, michigan, florida. they got to get out and do hard work there and being as far to the left as california democrats find comfortable is not always salable in states that are not california. >> he's so right. so many people especially some older folks in the democratic party are warning if you embrace the far left, you will hand reelection to donald trump and the party has to go after electability in this race. >> this is the raging debate, brian, that democrats have been having this entire cycle and it started even after 20 -- immediately after 2016 and it's whether or not democrats just want someone that can beat trump and right now biden seems to be winning that argument and claiming that mantle but there is opposite which is that maybe we shouldn't go the route we always go, which is with another older white male and with some return to normalcy. maybe democrats should go towards a more progres

and that's basically a must because the electoral college, florida has 29 votes, more than 10% neededwin. trump was the exception in 2016, a republican generally cannot afford to lose new york and california and florida, which is together 42% of the total needed to win the electoral college and win the presidency. but in 2016 the president not only won florida but he did a rust belt straight flush which gave him enough cushion. which is why he had a wide margin. this time around, his own campaign international polling and that of the republican candidates suggests the mud west is going to be a tough haul. that's why he needs to shore up florida and his base. >> the president's approval rating in your state has dipped to 44%. what do you hear from the kick off? >> the trump voters are locked in. they're eating up everything he said. as you mentioned earlier to your panel, the discussion about hillary clinton, the idea of lock her up, what a tired old talking point that he continues to rehash. there was nothing there in that speech last night. it was the kick off but he announced his re

you have to beat him handily in the electoral college. this guy is a felon.ter, will include her. if it's really close come he's going to say there's fraud. he's going to say you cheated when he is going to stay in office i think that's the strategy. >> greg: what is the amendment that limits your terms? >> juan: you are talking about article to an article two establishes the executive branch and says it's two terms. >> greg: his next thing would be we should repeal it. >> juan: the thing about it, on the one hand, i said this before. at the end of 2016, people asked what happens if he loses he says maybe, maybe not all except the results. i don't know if he was joking there but that's what he said. then he says to chuck todd in the same interview, he says you know, i won the popular vote and chuck's is what you're talking about? he says judicial watch had a suit in california. that suit was about people who were -- should have been taken on the registration rolls. no evidence of fraudulent voting. the question is why are we having this segment? [laughter] yo

since 1992, pennsylvania's electoral college votes have gone to the democratic candidate. until 2016 when the political ground shifted as the keystone state chose donald trump. one county that flipped from blue to red is erie in the far northwestern corner of the state. that's where special contributor joie chen met with voters as part of our matter of fact listening tour in pennsylvania. joie: the orange vanilla twist at sara's is everything here. >> this is real erie? >> erie. joie: it is also a trait that captures the flavor of erie politics. sharp contrasts twisted together. do you think the rest of the country understands erie's politics? >> no, but i think that's why erie was one of the top counties that changed their mind to go and the rest of the country needs to catch up. joie: we asked 71-year-old judy phelps, a life-long democrat turned die-hard "trumper," to join us. she brought along friends from the local gop, some who had also made the switch from d to r. and the last two years have >> well in my mind, g thlug is'y happy with what he's doing and >> i do beli

i won 306 to 223 in the electoral college. you're training for the hundred yard dash verses the mile. >> you're totally right. i disagree. i went to michigan. she didn't go to michigan enough. i won wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. no, maybe i did a great job. i never get credit for that. they say she was a lousy candidate. i think she was a great candidate. very smart, very tough, ruthless and vicious. >> you'd rather run against her again wouldn't you? you spend lot of time talk about it. >> no, i'd rather run against biden. sleepy joe. and the popular vote, at least me. i go to three places. i wentd to 19 or 21 states. i went to maine four times because i wanted to get one and i did get it. and that's the beauty of the electoral college. >> you joked about a third time. >> crazy. >> you will accept the results. >> let's go for a third term and then a fourth. >> driving people crazy. and about endorsing. i got a lot of people going is mike pence 100% on your ticket? >> and no, zeer oeo. so why did you hesitate in endorsing

no matter how you feel about it, you cannot just recognize him with his electoral college vote win ase president -- >> he doesn't act presidential. >> we're not asking what you think about his hair or a -- it's a very specific issue. >> and the russians interfered and it would be so -- >> neil: so without the russians -- you said hillary clinton won the popular vote. but our system is the electoral vote, p.s. so if he won in the system that counted, the electoral vote, we don't campaign differently based on popular vote, can you acknowledge that the russians didn't affect that or do you think they did? >> it was proven. it was proven. >> neil: maybe she should have gone to states -- >> three million -- >> neil: you never answer my question. maybe she should have gone to pennsylvania and other crucial battleground states. >> at the end of the day, more people wanted her to be president -- >> neil: the system is the electoral vote. >> that's america. everybody believes their vote counts. >> neil: if it flipped around, donald trump loses the electoral vote and wins the popular vote, woul

the reason trump won the electoral college. and they seemed to make the most of a u turn since 2016. we saw democrats do very well in all the states in the 2018 midterms. turnout resembling a midterm election. it wasn't because the president stayed home. and the other thing that you really notice on the graphics is the third-party vote. president trump didn't get 50% in all of these swing states that he won. but there were third-party candidates. that's a wild card in 2020. is there going to be a green party candidate who can get attention. you saw how democrats completely freaked out about howard schultz herier this year. will there be that ticket that could take votes from either side? you know, you could -- trump doesn't need to get to 50% to with win if there are those wild cards in the race. >> everything could change between now and then. at this point it appears likely he will lose the popular vote. you think of the big states. as long as democrats turn out. you look how he did last time and can he perform. in the 2016 r

that's the beauty of the electoral college.her sometimes and i change. i will tell you, the electoral college brings you to many of the states in this country. >> you have joked about a third term. you've joked about -- >> i only joke. i joke and i say, watch, i will drive chuck todd crazy. >> okay. you will -- >> yes -- >> you will accept the result, you will accept whatever happens in 2020? >> sure. >> you're going to be, you may not like it and walk out. >> i said at a speech recently, watch, we'll drive the media crazy. let's go for a third term and then a fourth. some of the media said, he is going to do it. >> speaking of driving people crazy, when you were asked about mike pence in 2024 and you paused about endorsing him as your successor, that got a lot of people going, if mike pence 100% on your ticket in 2020? >> well, 100%, yes. >> 100%? >> yes. >> he's been a terrific vice president, a friend, a lot of things. >> why did you hesitate in endorsing him? >> it was a surprise question. i wasn't even thinking about it. i

. >> neil: you did say the president -- you thought it was likely he would win the electoral college do you overcome california? >> neil: but he would win the electoral vote. >> if we voted today, he would win the electoral college vote. let me make a point that nobody notices. i'm not making a prediction here. if you look at the first year of president's terms and break them down into republicans and democrats, the democrats have double digit positive years every single time going back to franklin roosevelt with the exception of jimmy carter. the republicans most of the time had negative years because of the expectations for the republicans are high and the expectations for the democrats low. >> neil: ken fisher, we learned a thing or two. he became a billionaire thinking against the crowd. just another thought on what is going on. more after this. hopes you drive safely. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cos

it's about winning the electoral college, and right now trump is not going to win the popular vote.>> bully! >> speaker there's not going toe a lot of people out of the electoral college and he wants to ride that line because you want to make sure you're pulling back the trump supporters supporting obama, those sort of leaning towards trump but those leaning toward the middle and has to guard not far left with aoc and standards. >> i put out this broad issue. brand-new poll from npr and pbs, on the issue of abortion, it found that only 18% of the american people, less than one in five: support legalized abortion for all nine months of pregnancy. there is a single president who is not among that 18%, while 70% of the polls supports significant new restrictions on abortion, 70%. is there any democrat in this country running for national office who was going to speak to that 70%? it was going to be biden but not anymore. >> i will say this. biden, this is the 24-hour news cycle, we will change our focus. >> ed: there might be another flip-flop tomorrow. >> if he wins the presidency, th

it screws up completely the whole idea of having an electoral college.n the left and democrats want to abolish the electoral college? they are doing everything they can't undermine undermine these basic tenets of what having a successful unworkable republic means. >> martha: all right. and no doubt it will be one of the topics that we hear about tonight. thank you very much. more of "the story" coming up next. it's having-a-walrus-in-goal easy! roooaaaar! it's a walrus! ridiculous! yes! nice save, big guy! good job duncan! way to go! [chanting] it's not just easy. it's geico easy. oh, duncan. stay up. no sleepies. [ text notification now that you have] new dr. scholl's massaging gel advanced insoles with softer, bouncier gel waves, you'll move over 10% more than before. dr. scholl's. born to move. "csaid alice.d curiouser," "the rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way." "i've seen a cat without a gri, but a grin without a cat." hey, mercedes, end audio. change lighting to soft blue. the completely reimagined 2020 gle. with intelligent voi

now, the genius to have electoral college is that it forces presidential candidates to campaign in placesand it would have surrendered nevada's role in choosing the next president, so i'm glad some state democrats are starting to realize it's a great system forng choosing a president and, hopefully, more do. >> this is a miss to u.n. which has written a report claiming that digital personal assistants like siri and alexa are basically sexist, and they are tools of the patriarchy. and enforcing gender norms. for instance, if you -- some guys tell alexa, oh, you're hot, thed advice will say, oh, i would blush if i could. here i thought that they were just trying to be helpful. paul: this is because the voice sounds female. >> female, and therefore, reinforces that they were supposedly submissive and are just trying to be helpful. paul: your tax dollars at work. kyle? >> i'll give a hit to national weather service, lots of tornadoes and destruction but relatively few fatalities and that's in large parted to do with better forecasting and warnings. you can find a chart online of tornado fatal

is he betting on a strategy in which it's a simple electoral college strategy? because you know that for months, more than a year after the election the president would hand out maps of his electoral college success. maybe he's just figured out that's all he has to do. >> well, maybe. but we're also 16 months away from anyone actually having to decide that, and until there's really a nominee, all of these hypothetical will trump win or will he not have very limited utility. but it does tell us that there's an opportunity for democrats, if they can figure out how to run against trump and not run against each other and tear themselves apart, next wednesday and thursday on this network, it will be -- there is a way for that number to become a reality. >> thank you to both of you for joining me, nancy cook and philip elliott. there is much more of "the 11th hour" just ahead. ♪ she's doing it again. (vo) no cover up spray here... cheaper aerosols can cover up odors, burying them in a flowery fog. switch to febreze air effects! febreze eliminates even the toughest odo

the way the electoral college is set up, that is an advantage to him. thing that's not working for him politically is his approval rating. we use the gallop poll for the approval numbers, is relatively high, about as high as it's been since he has been president. then you throw on this economy, particularly what's going on in the job market, low unemployment, that gives him a lot of tail winds and that's why he wins. despite all of that, despite the great economy, you know, it's not a slam dunk. one other thing, michael, i should point out, these are models and models are wrong and we saw that in 2016. the models that now are predicting trump would win are the same models that predicted clinton would win back in 2016, so you have to take this with that in mind. >> got it. if we had had this conversation before the last cycle, you would have been speaking about hillary, you comy based left wing type. >> you got it. yep, yep. >> mark, thank you, appreciate it. >> thank you. take care. >>> check in on your tweet and facebook comments, what do we have, kath

but right now the model gives him an almost 300 electoral college vote winning margin.have to be exactly right on the money although the same model predicted barack obama in 2012 in realtime and got it within 4 electoral college votes. we call that pvc. unless it falls apart trump's got this thing. >> you're the first word bob you get the last one. >> i don't believe it for a minute. >> thank you both. next biden's bad week a flip flop on abortion. revelations of campaign plaj rim. is this a bump in the road for inevitable nominee or worse? plus new video of u.s. and russian warships nearly colliding? was it a mistake or something more sinister in a vast sea of blue with plenty of other places to go? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ welcome to seattle. where people are into coffee, tech, and retirement planning. the perfect retirement for me is doing the things that i want to do, not the things i have to do. unlike seattle, less than half of americans participate in their employer retirement plans. so what keeps people more engaged in their retirement? i want to have the ability to easily tra

votes than the actual winner of the vote in in peculiar format we have with the electoral college. he's a terrible -- if you look at this in terms of you're running the trump re-election campaign, how did my candidate handle himself today. well, he said he's willing to commit federal crimes to get re-elected. >> and if in fact this next time around he once again accepts help from a foreign adversary, this time we'll have his full complete confession of criminal intent on tape in advance for any prosecutor who needs to look at it. >>al, i know you have to work on questions for the debate. this one tonight gives you something to think about to put it mildly. >> do you even have to ask the democratic candidates, would you guys call the fbi? >> i have a feeling it's going to come up no matter what you ask at the debate. >> has norway called? >> thank you, rachel. well, on the the president of the united states said he would break the law to win re-election. that is the essential headline of the night. the president of the united states is willing to violate the law to win his re-electi

he won the electoral college he is president. >> he didn't win the popular vote. be chlor.e state by 77,000. you had russia. jim comey. i can go through the list of things that we will have in there in 2020 that weren't there in 2016. he has a record. he has to stand by the things he has done. he has turned off more than he excited. same folks in orlando. good for them injury it's great. you want to tell me how he can put to get together a coalition of folks to get 50.1% of the vote or the electoral college. he can't. the maybe we'll screw it up the democrats have done it before. >> yes. >> we got to get through our primary process, be energized and come together but i'd rather be us than donald trump today. >> thank you very much governor mccullough and welcome to the network. >> thank you. >> a new report revealing damning information about what saudi operatives said on tape as they murdered the "washington post" reporter jamal khashoggi. >> and jeanne moos on the struggle to get hope hicks to say something. ♪ thank you so much. battery charging. ♪ as a family, we always

support the electoral college if they win, oppose it if they lose.ing yes, if they can use it, gerrymandering know if they can. it's a very dangerous party. that's been taken over by a very radical ideology, there are very few sanctions left in that party, there is a difference between these radical progressives and old-time liberals. there is very few old-time liberals left in the democrat party.>> right here. >> hey mark, given joe biden was the dumbest man to ever serve in the senate, and dumbest man to ever serve as vice president, what are you think his chances are of becoming the dumbest man to serve as president?[applause] >> if he is elected, he will be. [laughter] although, there's carter. [laughter] you notice all the republicans are stupid at all but democrats are nobel prize winners? you notice that? he's got a shot at it. look at the stakes. we have fewer and fewer opportunities of winning. 25 years ago i remember reading the articles by historians that said the democrats are going to lose as far as the eye can see, it was after two reag

the --st is specific to it flows through the two branches of government, the electoral college, which creates the presidency, the senate, isch with all due respect not demographically representative of the united states. the consequence of making the electoral college and the senate the gateways to the federal courts is to predictably skew the composition of the federal court in ways that match the skew of the electoral college in the senate. skew that will help progressive forces in the next 50 years. the second reason progressives should be skeptical of the courts is that progressive goals tend to be redistributive, whereas conservative goals tend to be anti-redistributive, they tend to be focused on protecting or retrenching elements of some part of the status quo distribution. now, it is the case that there are certain instances in which courts can redistribute in ways that are highly effective. the redistribution of respect and dignity in a way that is deeply important to many of us. form is the exception. in the overwhelming majority of instances, progressives will not be able t