you end up having thomas jefferson tying the electoral college with his own vice presidential pick, aaronr. at the time, there was no official casting of ballots for president and vice president as separate ballots by the electors. aaron burr stayed silent and thought, maybe i can actually be made the president in the house of representatives if i just go along. maybe i will be able to squeak out the presidency. that created, obviously, a massive division in washington over who should become president. on the 36 the ballot in the house of representatives, thomas jefferson was made the president of the united states. >> clearly six was needed. dr. brown: that was to amend the constitution, which what it did was force the electors to cast separate ballots. one for president, one for vice president, and be clear in that. it reduced the overall number of individuals who basically if there were a tie or no one received a majority, would go to the house of representatives. it would do five to three. >> the next election everyone studied in high school was the 1824 election. adams, clay, johnson

corrected fo.correcting this soe fundamental about the character of our government parties and the electoral college. they didn't fail to kerry but they didn't otherwise. they are trying to get the electoral votes and failed to do next was arguably the most politically powerful in the german republic the head of the free democrats party which for 20 years got about five or 6% of the popular vote and he decided personally whether they would have the premiership and he got to be the foreign minister for 20 years on five or 6% of the votes. he was a pretty decent guy but that isn't the best system. >> one more in the back. >> if bob dole did endorse him you look back to william jennings bryan the incumbent democratic president didn't endorse the former nebraska congressman for president. he was for mckinley. that's kind of break can be damaging to a party and people say he only got 46% of the popular vote and the electoral college split his way but it was close in the three essential states. it is a risk to a party when it shifts. let me say in conclusion i was struck by all of the panelists comments a

november, december, this is the time we have to win the electoral college, otherwise we will be faced with another president who does not really care. david: i understand that your policy position is you do not think that is the best way to go, but what about a political matter? speaker pelosi: if we increase the vote in my own districts, but that is not what we need to do in order to win the electoral college. i think as we come out of the seeary season and people what the challenges are that are out there, because when people are on the campaign trail, they are listening to people. when they hear people say, i think that something will emerge that will connect with the aspirations and concerns that people have. david: you mention prescription drugs and you are working on that actively. what are the prospects of getting that done before the election next year? speaker pelosi: the president has said that this is something that he wants to do and we want to work together to do that. that wethe principles have in our legislation are initiatives that i think might be acceptable to him. w

electoral college. want to win elections, maybe you other should go to the place where the voters are that you need in order to win instead of saying i'm going to tear the temple down because i didn't win this time. >> question back here. >> ukraine a little bit about the lack of third parties in this country, how rare it was, and so forth. how much of that is related to the fact that we are -- i don't want to zay say unique but the minority in that we allow people to win without a majority. >> to what. >> win without a majority. most other democracies require runoffs and if no one gets a majority. >> i wouldn't say most. some do. mexico doesn't. brazil doesn't. >> many do and how much does this -- >> canada we just saw the party that has the -- is going to continue in government that got fewer popular votes than the party that lost. bass thaw didn't get the right number of southeasts. in this case was the party more to he theft was the beneficiary and the party of the right which gets the huge majoriti

where does no good from an electoral college standpoint and for hillary clinton to win california 2 - - one and as a result much of the rest of the country, the majority of states in states where the majority of the electoral college moving in then opposite direction in the new political alignment which was created a potential for continued disconnect between the popular vote in the electoralal college. but the sorting is national character. the economic and educational sorting that we have seen, the fact that moving forward the democratic strategy until maybe where the bourbon errors have removed so far the democratic and the 2016 election and not being reinforced inn the 2018 election, you are having big states like texas potentially discuss as swing states or target states of the future, much sooner than we maybe thought that would be the case. it is based on the shift of educated white voters, these might large metros in the south and places like dallas and atlanta behaving more and more like their counterparts in the north, less and less regional variation to accept variation

trish: she doesn't like the electoral college anymore.ry well. >> not to mention the democrats have done everything they can to change the rules of the game. and some states have gone as far to get rid of the electoral college. but i think this frames a broader point. what is the direction the democrat party is headed? no one has the answer to that. you see nancy pelosi pushing against the new rallying call, the medicare for all saying she is not a big fan of that. it's aoc's party with no leader. it's the squad calling the terms of engagement. the more they pursue this impeachment hysteria, i think it will fail them in the early battleground states. senator elizabeth warren in iowa and new hampshire, she is not much of a contender. trish: that's one state you don't want to tick off. if you said see you farra t -- d good-bye to new hampshire. >> you remember senator ted cruz won iowa and president trump won new hampshire. the energy in the democratic party, where is the energy? it's not with biden. it's elizabeth warren. the president is

and thus the electoral college was born as a compromise. the other challenge was in the north, a lot of them didn't want immigrants making decisions and didn't believe immigrants and those not considered well educated should be making decisions about who the executive of our nation should be. it's racism and classism. both of those things should be flung to the far reaches of history and the electoral college needs to go. (applause) >> i'm going to change tune just a little. this question or ask co-you know jimmy carter and can you share any story about him? >> so probably the most fun story was president carter helped me campaign. we were down in his neck of the woods in summiter county where he's helped create a microclinic. georgia is one of the 14 states that refused to expand medicaid even though we're on the bottom tenth of every metric of health care, including one of the highest maternal death rate. one of the reasons is georgia has lost seven hospitals since 2010. we have a state that's largely rural, and that access to health care

gone remarkable we had from 1888 to 2000 without having the electrical -- electoral college go one waynd the popular vote go the other. then we have had it happened twice. believes a guy democrat could win the national popular vote by his many as 5 million votes, three or four percentage points, i could still lose the electoral college because the republican vote is more efficiently allocated around the country. democrats waste a lot of votes in california and illinois. i think the odds are pretty good president trump will lose the popular vote, but the electoral college is what matters. we will be watching those. i won't say one thing in a race that close. it was probably a dozen things. host: let me put a hypothetical on the table. pete buttigieg wins the iowa caucuses. vice president biden wins in south carolina. where would that put the democratic race in late february? guest: we can see this race go really deep in a process without anyone getting anywhere close to a majority of the delegates. host: might there be a contested convention? guest: you will never hear me say brokered c

that is what they should be doing because the electoral college system is how we elect our president, it's a good system, why, and ensures that the person who wins the presidency is attracting a broad spectrum of americans from across the country as opposed to a candidate in the national popular vote system who has to go to the big cities on the east and west coast to get elected. that is not the system we want. >> it's under pain, founding father genius, they foresaw, about civil rights and protecting the smaller states, that genius of founding father, led to civil rights. right after the election, democrat tried to get rid of the electoral college, then when they did not conduct they went to the cabinet to declare him unfit for office. under the 25th amendment, that has to be into the whole narrative of impeachment inquiry, they were looking to get rid of him even before he was elected. they said impeach him, that for march 2016. your take? >> they have been trying to impeach him since almost the first day he was in office before he even carried out any of his duties. here's the im

and the spatial distribution of votes in a diversifying america make it possible to eke out an electoral college while losing the popular vote substantially as trump did by more than 2.8 million votes. in that vein "the new york times" working with sienna college has a big new poll of six key battleground states. michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, florida, arizona, north carolina, which finds basically a razor-thin race within the margin of error. among registered voters, trump trails joe biden by an average of two points. tied with bernie sanders and leads elizabeth warren by two points. the same structures that got trump elected in 2016 are still very much present. what's that mean for democratic strategy? to help answer that question i'm joined by democratic pollster, as well as jelani cobb, a professor at the columbia university school of journalism. let me start with you. i should note on things like some of these poll numbers from "the new york times," a bit of an outlier if you compare, say, what they found for michigan compared to emerson, it's a huge, huge spread. emerson has joe biden

thanks to take away from your loss, pay attention to the electoral college.hat they are doing great. i was so funny. i was dying. i had to remind it. so funny. >> juan: good friends tell you when you are bombing. >> jesse: well, i mean bill's happy. >> kennedy: that's why she lost, because she has people around her who won it tell her, "you are doing the wrong thing." it was very clear from 2015 on that people cling to give a sense of who she really was. she was giving the wrong speech, she was focusing on the wrong issues. she took so much for granted, because she has so many fans around her blowing air upper -- >> juan: you are saying that hillary has fans in the air of donald trump? holy smokes. >> kennedy: i'm not going to use unsavory language to fulfill your -- anyone who can't let go of a presidential loss, it's pathological. >> juan: trump has the same email problem. >> kennedy: if somebody said, ma'am, this is a really bad id idea -- >> greg: liberals are coming for your thanksgiving turkey. we'll tell you about it next. ♪ as a struggling actor, i ne

to all of those people in swing states and all those people in this country that we have an electoral college, as you know congressman, we had a landslide, 306 to 223. we had a landslide. and they're trying to take it away because they can't do it fairly. these are bad people. nancy policy is incompetent. she has got nothing done in congress and now with their big star witness, who's going to be the star witness?, the guy the got put there, he was not even on my side, it came over to me, i did not even know, that came over to me after i defeated other, people i defeated them all. you know why? >> why. >> what really we have to learn from this whole thing is the press not to straighten out their act because we are the greatest country in the world, we have room to get even greater. but the fake, press the media the way it is, they should be ashamed of themselves. >> will you be taking action against the whistleblower? >> the whistleblower's anna whistleblower, it's a fake, everybody knows, excuse, me everybody knows who the whistleblower is. the whistleblower is a political operative. these ge

but not have to allow them to cast votes and thus the electoral college was born as a compromise. the other challenge was in the north one of them didn't want immigrants making decisions and they didn't believe that immigrants and those that were nott considered well-educated should be making decisions about who the executive of the nation should be so that was a combination of racism classism and both of those things should be flown to the far reach of history and electoral college needs to go. [applause] i want to change the tune just a little because this questioner asked do you know jimmy carter and can you share any story about him? >> probably the most fun story is president carter helped the campaign. we were down in his neck of the woods in sumter county where he had helped create a micro- clinic. georgia is one of the 14 states that refused to expand medicaid even though we are in the bottom ten on every single metric of healthcare, including having one of the worst coverage rates, highest maternal mortality especially for black women where they are three things were like

in the popular vote for any winning president the electoral college that will be his path to victory again if there is such a path. but so every vote is going to be crucial this certainly is not going to help him i think it's a foregone conclusion that the evidence here is strong enough that all of the democrats are 99% of them. in the house of representatives will vote to impeach that is to send this into the senate for trial and in the weeks or months to come will see how that turns out. because that will be much more difficult to get the twenty republican votes in there that are going to be necessary to. to get the democrats but this is not a good look for the president what he's doing here right now trump says he's too busy to watch- the impeachment proceedings- the- the question is will american voices of the watching because- we've kind of been here before me. with with robert muller do you think that if i just might be a bit fed up with all of this with these hearings in these. long. day long testimonies on on capitol hill. so voters are others are. very interested so we have

the electoral college is so awful.that debate too but i think nobody complained about it until she lost it. >> juan: she complained about the vast right-wing conspiracy back in the '90s. you know it occurred to to me, bernie had a heart attack. she just has a coughing fit and people acted like it was the end of the world. she is dying. what is that tell you? >> jesse: bernie didn't have a heart attack on television. >> greg: bernie is likable and real. juan, bernie is real. bernie is likable. he's authentic. she is a phony. >> juan: bernie is likable? cranky. >> jesse: bounced back from a heart attack and have the best debate of his life. i don't think hillary has ever bounced back. to your point about this book and the timing, i'm also hearing barack obama can't put a pen on paper and has dragged out his memoir and now it said to be released in the spring and that's right at the height of the nomination process for the democrats. he will suck up all the oxygen for them and you're not going to hear a thing with the imp

there are two words that are a bulwark against these trends and those are electoral college. >> yes.> or ron, if you want to take this. some of these trends aren't happening fast enough. >> wisconsin is the single toughest state that fell to trump in 2016 because noncollege whites who are his strongest group are a bigger share of the electorate there, considerably than even michigan or pennsylvania. fewer college whites and fewer minorities, plus all the voter suppression laws. but the erosion among the blue collar white women traces back to the attempt to repeal the affordable care act when we started seeing these numbers muff. trump promised them economic security in 2016 when he went after the aca, particularly when they dime see it as a defense of coverage for pre-existing conditions. that created a breach. and then the style is an issue, too. even if they agree with some of the views he expresses on race or immigrants, the working class white women are much less likely than the men to be on board with this relentless confrontation. they didn't like having to explain to their kid

people are under the spell that the votes don't really matter we do about gerrymandering and the electoral college and yet it continues to happen with fireworks every single year. you don't actually feel that it's her voice or our policy and i lookok at a study of almost 1800 policy proposals. statistically nonsignificant so that means the government does not have the consent of the governed so i was under the impressionon with the self-cleaning litter box protecting us from authoritarianism and when the gays were getting married and it would all get better but then i realized that we have to play a role. >> your parents play a role in your book as well. >> yes. i did not know how to process that when my parents voted for him. so we are talking to people all over thepl country and i was unable even to talk on the phone asking them as a journalist rather than their daughter to have conversations that are uncomfortable and if we can come together talking ldabout media literacy and have discussions about what we believe that we don't need to disagree. too many people are shut down on who disagree wit

the real way you win is through the electoral college, which we proved in 2016. so i my bloomberg's play is to ignore those early states and focus on super tuesday. that was supposed to be a place for someone like kamala harris to go in and make big gains in california. her candidacy has all but deflated. i will say a couple things about michael bloomberg his new ad that he put millions behind is all unicorns and rainbow, keep your health care if you'd like. to if you don't, i have something better. from obama-bi. and obama-biden care passed almost ten years ago. as we sit here today, over 20 million americans have no healtm >> we're ready, how's that? the other thing is that michael bloomberg is saying rebuild america. america already elected a builder. if we want the truly rebuild america, then the people who work behind us for you and me ought to get infrastructure done, surface transportation and air traffic control system that was built for 100,000 passengers and we now have close to one billion. we have a builder in the white house who wants them to do what

's with these discussions with the electoral college. and what described that they cleaning to their bibles into theirru guns. i also think that the members of the republican party and that status has changed for people. and donald trump i think lives up to the fear of losing white privilege. >> the way i see it that we don't have d racial segregation mandated by law more than 50 years. and there was some serious economic studies that show contrary to what experts thought or what i thought that the closer trade relations with china cost many more manufacturing jobs in america than forecast so there is some reaction toi that. talk about the kuralt loan - - the comment brock obama 2 made as she mentioned that there is also an issue constitutional rights of clinging to your bible like freedom of religion inth the free exercise that you are entitled to read your bible. and the second amendment the howard decision of the supreme court say there is a personal right to keep and bear arms in this country and it is prohibited by the constitution.

. >> sandra: we have to win the electoral college. >> pelosi is right we have to win the electoralr make the affordable care act or number two, democrats have to do a better job explaining why medicare care for all is okay. there is a lot of republicans and working class families that voted for donald trump in this past election and the question they ask today are they better off than they were four years ago? coal miners have shut down under donald trump than in all eight years of barack obama. the truth of the matter is iowa farmers who once had a great bustling farm with lots of business are losing business because of donald trump's unfair and reckless trade war with china. >> if you talk to a lot of those farmers in the middle of the country they're happy that the president has finally taken on china because they've been getting the short end of the stick when it comes to trade deals for a very long time. and while democrats continue to criticize the president for his dealings with china which seem to be moving in a forward direction for america as china's economy starts to col

i am not an expert on the electoral college. there are probably some people in this room who know certainly more about it than i do. it is in some ways these days not as undemocratic as simply the existence of the senate, because the senate was imagined for a world in which the population of states would not be so vastly unequal as it is today. i suppose the electoral college seems to me a little bit of a leftover. it might help in some years democrats, some years republicans, but we are talking about as a structure more. it has its limitations. i don't think it is the most dangerous or worrisome part of our political system, and there might be some good reasons for it. populist politics are not always the best. there are some advantages to parties, too. there are trade-offs, at least. but i would say that some of the holdovers of our 18th-century political imaginary seem somewhat past their prime in terms of the way that populations are distributed today, who gets to vote, and a variety of other questions. i could imagine very

they're decided by the electoral college.o even though the 2020 democrats have a national polling lead over the president, it is a much more mixed bag in some of these key battleground states. that's according to new polling out this morning showing the president is still competitive in those states that are likely to decide his reelection. the president's advantage in the electoral college relative to the nation as a whole remains intact or has even grown since 2016, raising the possibility that the republicans could for the third time in the past six elections win the presidency while losing the popular vote. if you're the president's campaign manager, you probably like seeing that. if you're a democrat campaign manager, you probably don't. steve corn knacky is at the big board for us. so steve, we're what, 365 days out from election day. this is it. talk us through the different here and the dichotomy that we're seeing between national polls and the key battleground states that ultimately may decide who ends up in the whit

the electoral college. what you want to be focusing on right now.megan mccain slamming her cohost for believing the president will be impeached. carly shimkus is here with the bipartisan reaction coming in on social media. carley: the public hearing portion of the impeachment inquiry is likely drawing to a close, likely moving to the judiciary committee. now the conversation is moving on to phase 2. democrats say the president should be nervous. a lot of republicans, not enough evidence there. how this could hurt democrats, shelley says she is 100% correct, i hope the dems key down this ridiculous trail. he will win easily and joy beharwell implode. another twitter user says she's not correct. it doesn't matter how it affects the dems but the country and our constitution. texas congressman will heard's reaction, he is a moderate trump critic not running for reelection in 2020 and he said he is not for impeachment at this stage. it shows republican party is still pretty much all together. heather: it is interesting, can you impeach a president based

to do awayly willing with the electoral college. i agree that would be a good thing. to toss theling baby of the constitution not with the bathwater of the electoral college. i'm more devoted to the bill of rights than i am to the constitution. the constitution is full of a lot of ingenious 18th-century mechanisms for balancing and reducing the concentration of power, which more or less worked for a long time. i'm not sure we want to dismantle those mechanisms. i do think that what is precious to me in the constitution is the bill of rights. by the way, it was precious to edward snowden. that's what got him involved in .is career of revelation i think we're going to need -- i think it's going to take a lot , more ingenuity than the current democratic party is demonstrating, to redirect public discourse in a way that it needs to be redirected. dnc and theamong democratic establishment, as well as among most of the major media, is a longing for the status quo anti-trump. i don't think that's enough. the reason trump was elected was because there was serious shortcomings

electoral college is much harder to win, much harder. you have to go to many more places, et cetera. if you look at those swing states i'm way up in every one of them because of the impeachment thing and it's crazy what is going on because the people get it. it's a hoax. this is a continuation of the witch-hunt which has gone on from before i got elected. if you look at the, we talked about the insurance policy, right? you know, we've got an insurance policy just in case she loses, right? this was a text between the two great lovers. if you look at that, that was long before the election took place. brian: right. >> so this was taking, you know, root with comey, who is a totally disgusting human being. by the way if i didn't fire comey i would be in sufficient trouble now. they were coming after me, i wouldn't have known he was a phony and strzok, and page, all of these people, mccabe, the whole gang of them we wouldn't have been able to find it out. turned out to be the best move i ever made firing comey because they were looking to tak

so this looks like one thing nationally in terms of the popular vote, the electoral college, the keytleground votes might be a different story. >> first, stephanie, if i can say about the national polls, the same can be said here when you're looking at the primary battle here. last week, it showed elizabeth warren and sanders in a statistical dead heat, i think you saw that reflected here when there was more than 10 thousand democrats on hand. and there is an undeniable resurg jens in campaign is flushed with cash, activists, and volunteers. i met a woman at a stock car race and she said what is going on, and i said it was a democratic event, she said i'm kind of interested in this guy pete boouttigieg. until just recently until the last debate i really came to like mayor pete. >> pete buttigieg? >> yeah, he has a small town type of feel to him. >> this is ever moving campaign and we're three months away from the iowa caucus now. he is over up in mason city about to tour a corn ethanol plant. we're in grinell, iowa. stefanie? >> joining the conversation, a chief political reporter fo

the electoral college. jillian: the heated exchange over the president.ama sending a chill message to his party in the 2020 race, carly shimkus joins us with social media reaction coming up. >> if you think this impeachment hearing, the cast of characters, if this is enough -- >> you know what i would like to see? i would like to see these people into the subpoenas, giuliani -- >> you know what matters, the electoral college which is what you want to be focusing on right now. rob: fireworks eroding between megan mccain and joy theheart. jillian: carly shimkus has the reaction, that wasn't a pleasant moment. carley: the public hearings portion of the impeachment hearing likely drawing to a close. the conversation is shifting to what is happening next, democrats said donald trump should be nervous with republicans feel there isn't enough evidence, no direct link between aid money in the investigations, that is what megan mccain was echoing. shelley says she is 100% correct, i hope dems keep down this ridiculous trail, he will win easily and she will literal

but kennedy, in swing states where the electoral college votes are, he is doing extremely well. holding his own. i see a situation where we can have democrat win popular vote more than hillary, and president being reelected. but don't count the president out just yet. kennedy: certainly. and if the stock market continues to improvement that does not just help fancy pant billionaire investors that helps mom and pops who have money in their 401(k)s, they want to retire in peace, that is good news for them, unemployment is still very low, what has to happen economically for this strange rosie picture. >> not many months ago we heard about a potential recession, but the economy continues to do well. with it impeachment. we don't think that senate will actually convict him of anything. the house will probably move forward with impeachment. senate won't. kennedy: does nancy pelosi take that into correction. >consideration. >> she does, she came to a points, when can came to her base, she had to do something, and hoping that there is enough here to make americans upset, but you look at

basically, the president is very competitive in the key states that swung him the electoral college inlizabeth warren faces a challenge in those states. to discuss in detail, welcome nate. >>> so as i said, the top line it seems to me is despite the fact that the president lags behind, when you do the matchups, warren beats him by 10 or 12, and biden beats him by more, yet what you're saying is when you look at those states, that won him the electoral college, he's surprisingly competitive. >> that's right. the states in 2016 were four points better for donald trump than the country as a whole. in 2018 midterm election there were five points better for republicans. joe biden is up two. i think it would be easy to go from our numbers to say biden up 7 nationally and yet, still the president would be in a really tight race for reelection despite that national deficit. >> what do you think that's fundamentally about? >> these are states where white working class voters represent an above average section of the electora electorate. the president's strength and in our survey, we find the pr

a woman who had more popular votes but lost to donald trump in the electoral college.mebody who actually would know. i don't know who that one person would be or who she thinks it is. >> jessica: nancy pelosi spoke out about it specifically targeting medicare for all. we don't win by running up the tally. >> melissa: i thought it was interesting, this was a rollout of the verbiage that he's going to use to counter impeachment going into the election. and this angry majority. i wonder if that will work. he's talking about the people who are sitting back and feel like are trying to undo an election. there is another election coming up. in the meantime, they are not giving the president an opportunity to at least try to do what he said. do you think that verbiage works? >> dagen: he's going to say whatever he wants to. i remember the moral majority under ronald reagan and the silent majority earlier than that. whatever he does, the president's style doesn't necessarily work for it -- he's known for being kind of brash or abrasive, for lack of a better word. in state that

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>> the electoral college! [screaming] >> dana: joining me now is country music star john rich.they thought that was funny but, i don't think it's funny for the same reason you might think it's funny. >> that actually freaked me out a little bit. i'm kind of envious of her because if you think about all the money she saves every halloween, she doesn't have to get a costume. >> dana: will she is really upset about the electoral college. >> while her policies are scary and if you put her out in the dark with a flashlight -- >> dana: everybody and life goes through some rejection and you try and you fall short. what have you learned in life about when you have a situation like that, how do you move on? >> if you have a major failure in your life, god looks at that and sometimes he wants you to fail at something so you can do something else with your life. when you keep coming back like that, it's not recognizing that your life is moving on. i hate seeing that. she's been a around a long time. >> what do you hear from people as you are out and about? >> so our song "shut up about po

i would argue the existence of the electoral college itself. all of these anti-democratic qualities, some that have been there all along that have been used to grind our system's responsiveness to a halt. these work right away and it has to be -- it is never -- the process is not sexy but that has to be done alongside climate and wages and racial iniquity and healthcare if we want to advance this country in our lifetime. >> host: you think you would restore unity by moving to aluminate the electoral college? >> guest: it is one example -- this is important. if we had a national popular vote we would all be participating in the same election for president. which is actually not true right now. we need to stitch together the way our communities problem-solving process worked all the way through to the national level. i am not under no illusion we would get a national popular vote overnight but part of what i do is elevate our ambition a little bit about democratic structure. so clear our democratic structures don't work and perversely even though

it was faithless electors, eliminating the electoral college, russia, collusion, obstruction, if it's not ukraine at something else. clearly the whole game is trying to hurt president trump politically. >> melissa: i think we are talking about the argument each side will make. one thing that's clear, they've been sitting there ready to go for a while and that's something that would help a lot of different people. nancy pelosi and the democrats get the blame for that right n now. >> katie: nancy pelosi and chuck schumer are on the record saying we need a replacement to help out the labor voters we claim to be supporting so that's on them. but i want to get back to the house judiciary committee hearing they've announced and the substance of that, jerry nadler in his letter said they will address the historical and concentration a basis of impeachment, basically the democrats opportunity to bring in legal scholars who agree with them in terms of what high crimes and misdemeanors mean and they will then be able to in their mind present a better argument about why what the president did ac

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the new york times reporting units new polls that the president's advantage in the electoral collegeains intact and may have even grown since the election in 2016, a headline warning democrats may be living in a fantasy world. mark meredith in 2020. >> reporter: new polls from fox news and other media organizations like the new york times giving us a better idea where the 2020 presidential race may be heading just one year until voters head to the actual polls to cast their vote. >> america is stronger than ever before. >> donald trump told the crowd in kentucky tonight he's proud of his record since taking office. now pair of new polls are showing how voters feel about his performance. a new york times survey of registered voters shows the president remains competitive in key battleground states against potential 2000 2020 democratic rivals. in michigan, it was even with joe biden, leading massachusetts senator elizabeth war and by 7 points. >> thank you detroit. >> the samples is bernie sanders beating trump in michigan but only by two points, within the margin of error. in florida