electronic. frontier foundation. so on and so forth have already come out against you know these types of software is and also on the hill funny enough probably less than a month ago senator al franken himself was grilling facebook and you know facebook's lawyers over the use of this technology especially the fact that it's not really disclosed to any of the users so in other words as i mentioned before hand you are already submitting to all of this without really knowing the extent plus that what you should really be worried is that data bank because without anything to cross-reference there you go there is nothing so you've seen a little bit but at the end of the day you know does safety trumps your privacy that's sort of the question there and that's one thing you know when you go on facebook especially if you don't have the most secure of settings you're choosing to give up that privacy and i lot of people in younger generations i mean this is just what they have always known they have always known a world with s

but of course you know the electronic frontier foundation is famous for our case against national security and even eighteen heat for the warrantless wiretapping we've just seen kind of. dragnet on target is not there and that we're seeing in each other countries like u.k. . so what do you what do you think people should be concerned about and i know the fs has not focused so much on the role of some of these companies that we mentioned some of these large corporations but what do you think are some of the major concerns when you have you know the rise in the comcast on the sprints you know basically that the major providers of both cell phone and cable when you have them kind of collaborating with governments what should we be wary of any you know i think this is really really the way area is a shift from sort of the you know the system where governments will listen you know people communication because they have probable cause and because they have an actual mission of wrongdoing and moving to a world in which they are listening you know everyone mediations this is ordinary people regard

technologies earlier i spoke with rebecca bow international privacy coordinator for the electronic frontier foundation about all this and we first spoke about the standardization concerning surveillance laws i asked her why it seems that other countries as well seem to have a keen interest in these laws here's her take. and the i don't really sure as much as you know we're not yet really looked into so much that sort of collaboration between countries but i do know that we've heard governments saying that you know they want to be able to capture sort of all of the different only communications that are out there and that there is so much happening there on the evil trash or you know our answer to that is that a radical extension of police surveillance however is really isn't the answer and privacy has to be protected and civil liberties have to be upheld oh we just lost face there for a second rebecca. but it is really interesting and we can call it a so-called coincidence just that a lot of these can these countries are working got you back now i want to ask you about a proposed surveillance bill in

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do they have an awful lot of techniques to do it lot of ways to do it and you found it electronic frontier foundation to protect free speech should the principles of the first amendment be protected with something like wiki leaks free speech is not absolute in my mind it's a very important right it has to go through considerations of did you violate it in ways that might be heard somebody else some free speech could actually trigger harmful events could trigger even murders so it does murdering and an abortion doctor count as free speech no there are limits to free speech i don't know in the case of wiki leaks. i don't know where that's going to fall out so you think there are limitations in terms of kind of opening or protecting all free speech online and the war on whistleblowers will all free speech online i was brought up with the belief that the first amendment was such a good thing every every one of our bill of rights in the united states was so crucial to my heart the way my dad taught me but free speech meant you could say something bad about the president even you could say something bad ab

we are compiling this information on the web site of the electronic frontier foundation who is doingeally wonderful work on this issue. the other thing we are asking communities to do is to bring resolutions before their city councils to declare their city a drone free zone. so would it be wonderful if you are in buffalo and you declared your city a drone free zone? [applause] thanks to your very active occupy and as well as the very act of peace community the resolution has already been introduced into the city council and there will be hearing about this on july 31 at 2:00 p.m. in the buffalo city hall. [applause] so show up one and all and let's send a very strong message to the drone manufacturers as well as to the city and this government that we don't think that the drones in the hands of the police will make us any safer. so a couple of other things that are being done on the internet which is the level i wanted to mention. one is that while we are concerned about drones in the hands of the military, at least there are some rules in place about what happens when the military k