s newly exposed mass domestic surveillance operations the electronic frontier foundation has brought together several organizations to file suit together against what they are calling the obama administration's legal and unconstitutional domestic spying program also since last month the american civil liberties union has been in court fighting the government's collection of americans phone metadata as revealed by edward snowden's very first leak regarding verizon and the electronic privacy information center epic has also been involved in overturning legal decisions that have paved the way for mass warrantless surveillance of americans for more on this lawsuit and the others i was joined earlier by cindy cohn legal director of the electronic frontier foundation now i started by asking her why she believes the n.s.a. is violating not just the fourth amendment but the first amendment protections to. well because the first amendment protection right of association and the supreme court held in as long ago as one nine hundred fifty eight that that includes making sure that the government

. >>> san francisco based electronic frontier foundation has filed a lawsuit to stop the government's electronic surveillance program revealed by edward snowden. under the program the national security agency collects phone numbers, location, and duration of phone calls made by millions of people if the u.s.. the nsa says it's aimed at preventing terrorist attack. >> there is plenty of things that might be important to national security. that are prohibited by the constitution. >> 19 organizers including religious, environmental and human rights groups have joined the lawsuit filed by the electronic frontier foundation. >>> president obama has admitted it's unlikely the republican led house of representatives will pennsylvania legislation before the month long break in august. in a television interview, the president says he thinks many republicans are wrestling with the issue. the president says it's time to stop worrying about politics and dot right thing for the country. >>> defense secretary chuck hagel has ordered big cults to pentagon. hagel says he wants to eliminate between 3,

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the electronic frontier foundation is joined by different groups. they want the government to return and destroy any information that it obtains through telephone surveillance. the lawsuit also calls for a jury trial. >>> attention shoppers. how retailers are using your smartphones to track you. plus -- >> the royal family drops a new clue on when prince william and kate's royal baby may be done. i'm in london, details coming up. >> hi, i'm meteorologist lawrence karnow in the kpix 5 weather center. enjoy it. a lot of fog out there and cool temperatures now. we have a heat wave coming in our direction. we'll talk about it coming up. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, outside saint mary's hopsitn london await the birth of pe william and kate middleton's first child... one member of the royal family is talkg tement. cbs >>> the royal baby may be born anytime now. hoards of photographers are awaiting the birth of the child. one member of the royal family is talking about the excitement. cbs reporter alfonso van marsh is in london on who's spilling the beans. >> reporter

. >> reporter: mitch stoltz of the electronic frontier foundation says while plenty of people do illegally download videos, thousands of others have been wrongfully accused by lawyers who are not bothering to verify if the individual they are targeting actually did something wrong. it's called copyright trolling. stoltz says while it is not always clear how people are targeted, it's usually because their ip address came up during a search of unauthorized downloads. but he says the results can be inaccurate. >> but there could be any number of people using that internet subscription. there could be housemates. they could be neighbors. they could be strangers if somebody is running an open wireless connection. it's possible that they misidentified her internet connection to begin with. >> reporter: by law, the person who is running the internet connection is not legally responsible for what strangers do. but stoltz says some lawyers are playing hardball. >> the trolls will generally try to hold the internet subscriber, the more than pays the cable bill or what have you, responsible and get t

one plus have the ability to display amber alert and register fast track toles, but the electronic frontier foundationses the idea says it doesn't protect your location and personal information. >> law enforcement needs a warrant to be able to put a tracking device on your car. it's a possibility the way this program could be immremented, these smart plates could be that tracking device. >> a lobbyist for smart plates says the program sbt geared toward the average driver but for big companies with large vehicle fleets, but measure doesn't specify. we found drivers on both sides. >> i kind of like the idea actually. i'm a big proponent of fast track and anything that can speed up the day. >> the government is going to have personal information on people. that's not right. >> if smart plate had its way it would produce digital plates that ran advertisements. in san francisco, sharon chen, kpix 5. >> the state senate already approved the bill. it's now with the assembly appropriations committee. >>> a group of senators struck a deal to lower student loan rates, which doubled on july 1st. under the propos

but the electronic frontier foundation opposes the idea saying it doesn't protect your location and personal information. >> law enforcement needs a warrant to track you with a device on your car. it's a possibility that the way this program could be implemented, these smart plates could be that tracking device. >> reporter: a lobbyist for smart plate says the program isn't geared toward the average driver but for big companies with large vehicle fleets. but the measure doesn't specify. we found drivers on both sides. >> i kind of like the idea, actually. i'm a big proponent of fastrak and anything that can speed up the day. >> it's not right. >> reporter: smart plate would have produced digital plates that ran advertisements to generate state revenue about that measure died in california three years ago. in san francisco, sharon chin, kpix 5. >> the state senate has already approved the bill. it's now with the assembly appropriations committee. >>> meanwhile the u.s. senate could vote as soon as today on a bill to keep interest rates from spiking on those certain student loans. the bipartis

will make good on that threat among those is cindy coaches the legal director for the electronic frontier foundation which is one of the groups challenging the n.s.a. surveillance program. what they've been able to slow us down with is the argument that it's just all too secret and can't be decided by the courts because of national security and state secret well not only did they lose in the courts with that argument but now they've admitted the central facts of the program we're talking about so we're hopeful that that will help us move forward with the cases a little more quickly i would point out that trying to change things through the u.s. congress is also a slow process so you know while it's frustrating for those of us who want change neither the courts nor the congress moved to take your lovely quickly i think there are many members of congress who are in a situation in which they basically signed off on this and now maybe perhaps feel that they did to defend it rather than taking the steps that i think the american people want which is to stop it just by getting some fierce flak for his glo

s newly exposed mass domestic surveillance operations the electronic frontier foundation has brought together several organizations to file suit together against what they are calling the obama administration's illegal and unconstitutional domestic spying program also since last month the american civil liberties union has been in court fighting the government's collection of americans phone metadata as revealed by edward snowden's very first leak regarding verizon and the electronic privacy information center epic has also been involved in overturning legal decisions that have paved the way for mass warrantless surveillance of americans now earlier i was joined by a good dear abbas's a staff attorney at the council on american islamic relations which is also taking part in the lawsuit against the obama administration. i asked what he hopes this lawsuit will accomplish well we're trying to restore n.s.a.'s traditional function and i say was set up to not to spy on americans and their communications it was as part of the military it was seen as a agency that was foreign walking and wh

customs and border protection report obtained by the electronic frontier foundation through a freedom of information act lawsuit it's really hard to read the document because much of it has been redacted huge swathes of it are just blacked out completely so that we can't read it which is enough to prove just how covert their intentions are but they weirdly whacked out in this report is this one crazy line of attacks all that work to black out so much of it but then there's this one readable line which states that border drones could be upgraded in the future to quote include expendables or in non-lethal weapons designed to immobilize targets of interest yep the us government is actually leaving the door open to add whether been through there a manned aircraft patrolling our borders. i guess that would be so that they could well strike down from the sky people trying to cross the border into america land of the free and of course the entire list of who or what their pickling would be a target of these weaponized drones is completely blacked out but the best part is even though there is

customs and border protection report obtained by the electronic frontier foundation through a freedom of information act lawsuit it's really hard to read the document because much of it has been redacted huge swathes of it are just blacked out completely so that we can't read it which is enough to prove just how covert their intentions are but they weirdly whacked out in this report is this one crazy line of attack all that work to black out so much of it but then there's this one readable line which states that border drones could be upgraded in the future to quote include expendables or of non-lethal weapons designed to immobilize targets of interest yep the u.s. government is actually leaving the door open to whether bin to there a manned aircraft patrolling our borders i guess that would be so that they could well strike down from the sky people trying to cross the border into america land of the free and of course the entire list of who or what their pickling would be a target of these weaponized drones is completely blacked out but the best part is even though there is an offici

customs and border protection report obtained by the electronic frontier foundation through a freedom of information act lawsuit it's really hard to read the document because much of it has been redacted huge swathes of it are just blacked out completely so that we can't read it which is enough to prove just how covert their intentions are but we're believing that blacked out in this report is this one crazy line of text all that work to black out so much of it but then there's this one readable line which states that border drones could be upgraded in the future to quote include expendables or in nonlethal weapons designed to immobilize targets of interest. yep the u.s. government is actually leaving the door open to add the weapon to their advantage aircraft patrolling our borders i guess that would be so that they could wells right down from the sky people trying to cross the border into america land of the free and of course the entire list of who or what that would be a target of these weaponized drones is completely blacked out but the best part is even though there is an offici

the electronic frontier foundation would like to see more protection. >> consumers giving up too much data. if legislature's job to protect average californians from overly. >> i think it's a lot of things. i think things should be the way they are. if it's not broken why fix it? if approved and successful, experts say the plates could show advertise whgt vehicle is tp stopped and be a money-maker for the state. >> all right. things are heating up for weekend around here. >> yes. sandhya patel is here. >> how about 98? pacifica, 569 high. what a huge difference. we'll do it again tomorrow, so let me show you live doppler 7. wi wide range of conditions, taking a look at live doppler 7 hd, dwe do have fog across parts of the coast right now that is keeping you on the cool side. here is a view from our south each camera looking here you can see a little bit of fog starting to drift towards the bay there. we'll watch that. 71 in the santa cruz. you can see how shallow fog layer is. it's mainly coast and in parts of the bay. you're still into upper 80s here is a foggy view of the golden ga

the electronic frontier foundation would like to see more protection. >> consumers giving up too muchata. if legislature's job to protect average californians from overly. >> i think it's a lot of things. i think things should be the way they are. if it's not broken why fix it? if approved and successful, experts say the plates could show advertise whgt vehicle is tp stopped and be a money-maker for the state. >> all right. things are heating up for weekend around here. >> yes. sandhya patel is here. >> how about 98? pacifica, 569 high. what a huge difference. we'll do it again tomorrow, so let me show you live doppler 7. wi wide range of conditions, taking a look at live doppler 7 hd, dwe do have fog across parts of the coast right now that is keeping you on the cool side. here is a view from our south each camera looking here you can see a little bit of fog starting to drift towards the bay there. we'll watch that. 71 in the santa cruz. you can see how shallow fog layer is. it's mainly coast and in parts of the bay. you're still into upper 80s here is a foggy view of the golden gate

electronic frontier foundation would like to see protection. >> consumers are giving up too much privatea. legislators' job is protect californians from government snooping. >> i think they are going too far with a lot of things. i don't things should be the way they are. >> after the pilot is approved, they say the digital plates could show advertising when the vehicle is stopped for four seconds or more and be a moneymaker for the state. >> katie: new this morning, president obama is commending the work of a consumer protection agency that was created after the economic crisis. the consumer financial protections bureau got the first permanent director after the senate installed richard cordray after years of delay. the president says the agency has made great strides in protecting the american public. >> work had a thags been done over the past two years, mortgage lynders, student lenders, pay day lenders and credit report go, all face greater scrutiny. if they don't play by the rules now have some way to go to get a measure of justice. >>> senate confirmed him on tuesday. >>> the youn

. >>> the san francisco based electronic frontier foundation has filed a lawsuit to stop the governmentonic surveillance program revealed by snowden. they collect phone numbers, locations, and duration of phone calls made by millions of people in the u.s.. the nsa says it's aimed at preventing terrorists attacks. 19 organizers including religious, environmental, and human rights groups have joined the lawsuit. >>> the latest issue of rolling stone magazine has ignited a fire storm of criticism on social media sites. on the cover of the august issue is accused boston marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev. >>> families in court madder a are being warned to pay closer attention to small kids and pets. a deer attacked his dog in the driveway last weekend. casper a yellow lab who is currently unable to walk on his back legs. deer feed off of local fruit trees and have become aggressive. >> and at the same time it's like they caught eyes and the deer jumped up and was foaming at the mouth and scared the heck out of her. >> casper's veterinarian bill is $7,000 and counting. the casper should make

the document surfaced as part of a lawsuit filed by the electronic frontier foundation against the department of homeland security in order to obtain more information about drone use. military prosecutors have wrapped up their case in the court-martial of army whistleblower bradley manning. the final prosecution witness testified tuesday in closed sessions, part of an effort to argue manning went documents that would be used by al qaeda. manning faces up to life in prison for 21 charges including aiding the enemy. his defense team will begin their case on monday. those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. we turn now to egypt for the nation is in the state of crisis. egyptian president morsi as rejected an ultimatum from his country's armed forces to respond to massive protest or face removal from office for you did on monday armed forces gave morsi 48 hours to outline a roadmap for reconciliation or be ousted by the military. that deadline runs out today. the army has announced it will issue a state

electronic frontier foundation would like to see more protection. >> consumer simply giving up 0too muchprivate data and it's the legislature job to protect average californians from overly intraws i have government snooping. >> i think they go too far with a lot of things. i think things should be the way they are. there's no need to stipulate up. if they work, not work fix it. >> if the pilot program is approved and successful enough for the public tech experts say the digit plate could eventually show advertising when the vehicle is stopped for 4 seconds or more and be a money maker for the state n.sacramento, abc 7 news. >> coming up here. tragedy 14 stories up. coming up. woman dies while riding a roller coaster. what happened and whereas we continue. competition for those popular food truck heating up. you could call it what is good for the goose is good for the gander. >> inexpensive camera and hay tech couple add up to burglar worst nightmare. busted and broadcast from hundreds of broadcast from hundreds of miles away. >> now from abc 7 news. >> good evening again. texas authorit

brought by the electronic frontier foundation, the suit accuses the nsa are violating the groups right of association through the collection of metadata on all u.s. calls. it is the first legal action to directly target the nsa since its massive surveillance operations were revealed. republicans have dropped their blockade of a number of president obama's appointees in return for preservation of the senate filibuster. senate majority leader harry reid had threatened the so- called nuclear option of using democrat senate advantage to push through new rules ending republicans ability to stall presidential picks and leap top positions unpeeled. after republicans backed down, the senate voted to confirm richard cordray is the first permanent director of the consumer financial protection board. the deal means confirmation votes were six other nominees including thomas perez for labor secretary and gina mccarthy to head the environmental protection agency. in return, democrats agreed to replace two obama picks for the national labor relations board appointed during the senate recess. the new

the main plaintiff is the "electronic frontier foundation" = or e- f-f and it's based in the city. members say that electronic surveillance is illegal and unconstitutional. it also wants an injunction the justice department and f-b-i. there's no comment yet from the agencies being sued. >> catherine: happening now. there's still no deal on a new bart contract but both sides are at the table. talks reportedly resumed just after 4 p-m. there were talks yesterday as well. a union rep says they only lasted 20 minutes, but bart officials say they actually went on much longer. the four day strike earlier this month was a headache for commuters. and cost the bay area roughly 73 million dollars. both sides have less than three weeks before a second bart strike is possible. there's been progress on safety issues, but union officials say they're still far apart on pay and benefits. >> catherine: a former fremont >> jacqueline: widespread fog in the morning but will clear faster than today. back in the '80s in a number of places tomorrow afternoon by thursday the law only see a little bit of s

are hardliners on the war on terror one hundred percent of no exactly exactly in the electronic frontier foundation is also launching a suit saying that the collection of telephone metadata not only the fourth amendment but it violates your first amendment right to free association or a government shouldn't be knowing whom you're certainly in this with they've been they've been photographing mail as well nobody's talking about that i mean the postal service has been photographing the outside of them which is made of data and they're aggregated that there we now have police departments all across the country not just capturing every single for the license plate that goes by but now doing facial recognition determine who's in the car where and when this is all going in a giant database as the n.s.a. is vacuuming this all up this is just the tip of the iceberg. well this is just the tip of the iceberg we've heard repeatedly that there's more information coming and while they may have been using some surveillance techniques the of what you do online is so much more intrusive and the amount of informati

the usual way is you have some sort of advocacy group like the a lot -- electronic frontier foundation or something like that and have lawyers that argue with government officials and try to sway candid it's to enact regulations. here i am looking at a bunch of clever programmers with use computers and connectivity coming up with schemes and then i am looking at government bureaucrats trying to come up with prohibition. i do not see a fair fight. another example is regulators trying to control high-frequency traders. the way high-frequency trading algorithms go, if you try to slow the frequency or put caps on them, the algorithms will adapt and use that as the system that there optimizing against. so what can possibly be done? i don't think you can use a prohibition regime, but you can have some effect. every nation costs money then the picture changes. i don't think having it cost money is the complete solution, but it is part of it. one of the ways that people, it costs money to do things. the control of texas creates a constraint . hen n so the police don't get to have free cars. th

organizations including religious, environmental have joined the lawsuit filed by the electronic frontier foundationa former facebook employee is raising new privacy concerns. during an interview, mark zuckerberg's former speechwriter told "the guardian" that facebook employees have access to user passwords. the worker said the staff needed to have access to accounts to fix problems and issues. facebook says it protects users' information. >>> 8:14. happening right now -- some house members are questioning treasury department officials about the president's healthcare law. this is a live picture of the laws ways and means committee. as kyla campbell reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom, they want specifics on why there's a delay for part of the law. kyla? >> reporter: tori, the treasury department officials decided businesses won't have to pay fines if they don't provide health coverage next year. but individuals must prove they have health insurance next year and the republican chairman of this committee is among those frustrated with the move. >> why did you make the decision that warren buf

he is the eff, electronic frontier foundation and -- >> ok. >> there's a lot of cases going on. i think that -- >> i want to say just support activists. >> thank you. thank you. >> scomprerem -- jury emy's web ite is freejeremy.net. >> thanks to prism we know that the f.b.i., etc., had access to everything about manning. as his attorney, do you have a right to ask how much, what data, not just that they used, but that -- all of the data that they perused to pick exactly what they wanted? as his attorney, shouldn't you have that right in >> you definitely should. the discovery rules in the southern district are not what as would wish they were, so an attorney you try to get more information and that's part of your job is to litigate for that. and so hopefully, is all i'll say to that. >> a really interesting example from my work on this topic real fast is that in 2005 there ways group of environmentalists facing multiple life sentences for property destruction and like this carkse the government was really turning the screws and threatening them and they were refusing to take any

so the usual way you try to stop it is an advocacy group like the electronic frontier foundation that have lawyers to argue with government officials to sway candidates to enact regulations so here i am looking at programmers with huge computers and connectivity to look at schemes and bureaucrats come up with the prohibition and i do not see the fair fight. also regulators trying to control high frequency traders. the way the algorithms go if you slow them down then the algorithms will adapt to use that as the system that they optimize against. what can possibly be done? you can have some effect but it is hard. if it cost money than the pitcher changes settle think it is a complete solution but a part of it. traditionally one of the ways the people constrain the government or for that matter, churches or corporations is a cost money to do things. and the control of taxes creates a constraint. no taxation without representation the police cannot just go to the auto lot to say what police cars but instead they have to argue for taxes with the budget then buy them like everybody else and

the lawsuit was filed today by san francisco's electronic frontier foundation. it seeks an injunction against the n.s.a., justice department, f.b.i. and directors of the agencies. the suit comes after former n.s.a. contractor edward snowden leaks details about n.s.a. surveillance programs earlier this year. and today mr. snouden submitted a request for temporary asylum in russia claiming he faces persecution from the u.s. government and could face torture or death. this morning "washington journal" talked to the reporter about this situation. guest: sarah harrison is the intermediary but it's career clearly g -- asanged -- she's young, in her 30's. she accompanied him in moscow where he's believed to still be. it's not clear whether she's there or not. in the beginning it looked like wikileaks was trying to find a h limb but taken on more role and protecting documents and protect them in case something happened to snowden f a poison pill came out there. host: edward snowden asking him for asigh limb. he said we will stop if you stop political activities and quot

with us the executive director of the freedom of the press foundation and access to the ledge electronic frontierormation, trevor, welcome to "the war room"." >> thanks for having me. >> michael: we're happy to have you. this would not limit the surveillance to people who are targeted in investigation. would you would congressman tim support that legislation? >> this is basically rolling back the patriotic act to make sure that it only encompasses people who are under investigation for terrorism. right now how they interpret the statute, the secret fisa court which has been interpreting the statute in a very broadway which allows the nsa to back up every american's phone call. who calls you, how long, and where. >> michael: that's what they call the meta-da at a. they bring out this red hearing all the time. we're not collecting the content of your phone call. it doesn't matter, this meta-data is very revealing. it will show where you're going all the time your political leanings and information even your friends and family may not know. >> michael: and critics are saying they're storing the data

electronics surveillance program. it was filed today by san francisco's frontier foundation -- injunchings. the suit comes after former n.s.a. contractor leaked details of the surveillance programs. mr. snowden submitted a request for temporary asylum in russia claiming he faces persecution and could face torture or death. this morning, we talked with a reporter about the organization wikileaks. > we are back with josh meyer, a global security correspondent. he is also the director of education and outreach for a national security journal initiative. host: we are talking about wikileaks and it's relationship to the n.s.a. leaker snowden. what is wikileaks and how has it changed since it first made headlines? guest: it was started in 2006 under sort of a sunshine coalition. it was created -- their motto is we open governments everywhere and it was a portal through which people could leak confidential information and open that up to the sunshine laws of the world and get the information out there to the public. in the recent -- in the past year or two, julian, now that he is on the run in lon