fitting the bill earlier i asked this very question to amy's tapan of it with the electronic privacy information center and take a listen to her answer. it is actually there are grants from the department of defense the department of homeland security that are being used and being given not only to universities but the private companies into law enforcement to encourage them and enable them to purchase drones that they might not have been able to afford on their own in order to experiment to see what they can do with them to provide surveillance and to look into their capabilities and hopefully in the future i think the goal is to get them to buy their own and to proliferate the system the economy i want to for a second look at the bigger picture here i mean it was just a few decades ago that we saw you know a flurry of computer programming programs being offered at universities in the last decade or so we've seen a lot of focuses in things like web development. do you think more drones on college campuses in college curriculum means that something is about to explode not just on our diplomas but also

was quote inevitable so all of that led the electronic privacy information center to file a four year requests which the n.s.a. tried to shut down by handing them a global our response now a global our response well it's based on a historic case but basically what it is it's the refusal to either confirm or deny the existence of the records of the four requests to seek it as you can imagine this thing is a favorite amongst government agencies so what happened next was epic responded by filing a lawsuit using the reports in the post to say that the existence of this partnership had already been confirmed but the court didn't buy it and on friday the appeal by epic was also shut down of the court even said that the n.s.a. could simply not respond to this request because even a rejection could reveal certain details of the n.s.a. claims are national security secrets this was what was written in the ruling so that if the n.s.a. disclosed whether there are or are not records of a partnership or communications between google and i say regarding google security that disclosure might reveal w

but the electronic privacy information center which is the organization that got these documents released through a request, they point out this manual says analysts should identify, quote, media reports that report adversely on response activities. that sounds like they are keeping tabs on people who say bad things about them. >> this is a hard question. i will ask for a lifeline. lori? >> i knew it was coming back to my court. move on to me. disip it. skip it. >> i thought it was a great question. >> thank you. you said big brother is always watching and get used to it. why should we shrug our shoulders? >> choose your battles. >> you have to pick your battles. this is insur mountable. >> what if your toddler grew up to be a terrorist? >> that won't happen in the big brother society. >> i don't understand people. >> it is never ending. >> if you are going to look at the word pork. >> comedy and snow and ice. >> it goes on forever. you might as well work on something where you can make a preens and can be eye effective. >> it is like a lot of things takes place in counter terrorism. when

stop for a second and go back to our aim is to kind of it's legal counsel with the electronic privacy information center appreciate you coming on shank you so much. once again our one of the world's best known media moguls robert murdoch the owner of fox news channel the wall street journal and so much more has been modest recently across the pond in britain long after his news of the world shut down after a phone hacking scandal and many more company wide practices deemed outrageous here's a recent decision read aloud by the british parliament we find news corp carried out an extensive coverage of its rampant law breaking its most senior executives repeatedly misled parliament and the two men at the top rupert and james murdoch who were in charge of the company let's no answer for that in the view of the majority of committee members rupert murdoch is not fit to run an international company like b. b. sky. all right lots of people have opinions about murdoch and his beloved baby at least american baby fox news but love him or hate him we want to talk about this assertion that he is unfit to run a compa