please do something about those electronic waybills. thank you. >> some -- i should make it clear that the president put the -- [unintelligible] second, i love her more than my sister, she is intelligent and hard working and anyone should be policed to have these entities, but there are these issues -- we understand the only resources you can tap into for the cabdrivers for the-imbalance you have. i don't understand how can anybody claim electronic waybill is useful for statistics and improving the service while it is going to cost a lot more to put these devices inside the cab to gather statistics. the cab drivers can provide you with the statistics you need to verify the billowed -- the dollar ended -- you can just have a random poll to see if it is valued. i heard claims these a electronic waybills are going to be safe. i don't know how anybody can claim such a thing. in the history of mankind, and has been proving that man is not perfect and the pentagon could not provide personal information and the largest cab industries, the micr

our electronic waybill is not to be sold. the health matter, we have to look after the health batter. we don't know is the devices -- we want to understand everything before we install. the meter increase is very important right now because the economy and the market level and enterprise level which has gone up so high, i hope we can come to a conclusion. thank you. [applause] >> i've been 25 years as a cabdriver and medallion holder. she has said there are some fundamental problems that need to be addressed and the agency and i think the number one fundamental problem that needs to be addressed is that the fundamental relationship is one that can best be described as cannibalism. [applause] 5 please don't clap until the end. the mta has made a very clear the views the cab industry primarily and only as a source of funding. their relationship is cannibalism. since february, which had three health crisis is a including heart attacks. we in the cab industry have no benefits of any kind. what we do, as we pass that. i pulled out

of the electronic devices to collect all the data? if you can get credit card processing for a 1.5 or 2%, why should we pay 5%? i drove for almost 16 years. the first thing, of 5% a charge for credit cards is not acceptable. it will be 1.5 or 1.57. another comment is about security. i heard about sunday attacked by the hackers. who will provide this protection for cabdrivers? you have to give this information for our family. >> i spoke to you a month ago. nothing has changed and i am back. i like to read a quote here. i am told that this came from chris, she is referring to the perception of 7 cisco cabdriver's that they're rude, untrained, and how to operate their own payment processing equipment. they have refused any fare that is not good enough for them or paid in cash. and unwilling to wash or change out of their pajamas before going to work. and taxi drivers refuse to respond to radio calls because they're on their way to or from the airport or unwilling to leave downtown. if you want the public to what is the events as the taxi

please do something about those electronic waybills. thank you. >> some -- i should make it clear that the president put the -- [unintelligible] second, i love her more than my sister, she is intelligent and hard working and anyone should be policed to have these entities, but there are these issues -- we understand the only resources you can tap into for the cabdrivers for the-imbalance you have. i don't understand how can anybody claim electronic waybill is useful for statistics and improving the service while it is going to cost a lot more to put these devices inside the cab to gather statistics. the cab drivers can provide you with the statistics you need to verify the billowed -- the dollar ended -- you can just

electron of waybills could be useful to improve efficiency. of the question i and many other drivers have, what else will they be used for? if their purpose is also the track our meters, you're opening a very different can of worms because there many reasons why the meter does not accurately reflect the and come. if you have accepted a fair over the radio, you forget to turn it off after less fair. you may give a fair way, even. we're very concerned that your purpose here is to make available these waybills to the irs to they can squeeze cabdrivers to pay a federal that caused by rich criminal banks. every day we see the poor being squeezed to pay the debts of the rich. we just gave twitter six years of free rent. >> i am sorry, i am her diabetic and i am shaking a little bit. at this point, i of this year to said that we are condemning an electronic waybills and the attack on cabdrivers. this should not be passed this type of the bill. it is a violation of national riots. in the city should not pass this type of nonsense. and also, nobody is

on the subject of electronic waybills, i have not heard a reason against them that i like. but there are very many ancillary problems that need to be worked out. thank you. >> [reading names] >> good afternoon, board members. united taxicab workers. let me just say i hope there is a separate opportunity to speak about the electronic waybills -- completely separate topic, and we should have the opportunity to speak on both. as the director pointed out, it has been more than eight years since there has been a real leader increase for cab drivers. it is inconceivable that any of the union's that contract with muni would go anywhere near that time without a raise in pay. there has been a 19% increase in the cost of living. you know that san francisco is among and really is the most expensive city in the entire country for cost of living with the exception of the borough of manhattan in new york. drivers kids have gone up. there was a $12.50 gate increase a few years back. gas has gone up 153%. it was $1.69 in january 2003 when we got the meter increase. last week, it was $4.28.

>> no. >> why do you have a problem with the protocol of the electron? >> i don't have a problem with probabilities, but a problem with the theory that's incomplete. >> [inaudible] >> einstein -- >> einstein said the theory is indeplete. >> for a different reason. >> it had to do with a lot of things and the interpretation and all kinds of other things but he had the vision to understand something we call today entank lment and things like that and the epr paradox and so on. i'm asking something at the lower level. you have no problem going to las vegas, well, maybe you do -- [laughter] gambling, no problem as the guy on the prairie hunting or whatever, you have no problem with the wolves or whatever you are hunting going one way and another time you chase an animal going the other i way. that's newtonian in a sense. would you need a see a shrink if the wolf went one way and another way the next? >> if it looked like my mother or father. [laughter] >> here's the point. you do an spearmint, and when you observe it and open the backseat, the electron goes

here, and be you find the electron here just in two different universes. in each universe there's a copy of you thinking incorrectly that this there's a single definite outcome, but from the bird's eye view, there are two of you thinking that. the idea is that all of the possibilities allowed by the quantum laws are realized in one universe or another, and this grand collection of possibilities, that we call the quantum multiverse. that's the idea. >> but you believe it. >> no, i don't believe it. i don't believe it because i don't think that we've established yet in any of the an cease, and again this is controversial, some people think we have, i don't think we've established yet how this way of thinking about quantum mechanics actually describes our observation. that link, i don't think, has been established. >> i think we just don't understand quantum mechanics. >> no, but that's tantamount to exactly the same statement. to understand quantum mechanics is to say how does it link up with observation, and i don't think we've answered that yet. >> well, i

you must request the electronic records. if you wait until the case report comes out a week in advance in the ask to go to the file, you'll not have any electronic records. i understand the electronic files have got an overwhelming. when you had to type a letter out, he did not send a letter saying thank you for accepting my phone call. now people do bizarre things. you have one thing of substance and maybe 10 the irrelevant females because people feel they need to say thank you for talking to me or whatever. the planning department has to go through a process. every notice that you give when someone close the case has started. if you don't put it in writing, it is not on the record. president olague: any additional public comment? public comment is closed. >> you're beginning your regular calendar. commissioners, you are on item number seven. [talking over each other. ] >> i just wanted to note that this case has an associated variants as well. any action on the environmental review will have to come first. >> good afternoo

i want to address the electronic waybills. the government mandating waybills is highly anecdotal and now that the city is moving toward transitioning into electronic formats, i think the city should issue a formal policy statement and policy disclosure to the industry and general public, stating specifically what the purpose is, using -- why the city wants to gather this data and where it is going to wind up. i think the city has an obligation to state that it lay a policy statement and the policy disclosure to insure accountability is, so that unwarranted third parties don't get access to private information, like marketers and advertisers. i would think this kind of information would be subject to federal government agencies like the department of homeland security and water that would have an effect on the some of the large population of middle eastern drivers in our industry, whether or not they would be tracked with the electronic tracking technology just for being, for example, muslim here. thank you very much. [applause

also, i am opposed on the electronic waybills. these are my to objections -- mike two objections. -- my two objections. >> dominic. i have been 30 years in the service of some francisco. a request one thing. whenever you have an agenda for the taxi industry, it should at least be on the bulletin board of the companies and at the airport, so everybody knows about it, not only the company. the drivers should be informed. it has to be a big letter, not a tiny letter, where it is visible. we have bulletin boards at the airport and at the companies. before you set up a meeting, i request you that you put it in bold letters so that all the parties involved will know about it. i recommend you guys that we would really appreciate that. you are very informative and everything like that. we are trying to improve the industry. everybody is trying to do a good job. thank you. >> mohammed eddinae, jimmy mankind. >> good afternoon, everybody. i am here today for the credit card thing. i don't think it is right. i do not think anybody should com

no electronic waybills. i am paying $15 an hour to be here. i do not know if mta is going to pay for me or i have to pay for myself. the other thing is the 5% charge. then the company can pay me to% to send the money to my account. -- can pay me 2% to send money to my account. >> stephen gebshrel, ali gashan, ang ho. >> i am a taxi driver for five years. electronic waybills -- systems go down. credit card systems go down. there will be no taxes service. that system could go down for days. nobody has mentioned it. why do you have to track everything we do? that is all i have to say. i will do what everybody else tries to have me do. >> pilar tileg, aieli gashan, mohammad offshart, eng ho. >> my name is padavid pasada. my comment is this. this is capitalism at its worst. look at the faces of the people who have spoken here. can you imagine if they say to their homeland that capitalism is not being practiced by san francisco? they come from all over the continent of africa, the middle east, india, south america. these people will cry out to their

members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.] the chair: the yeas are -- the chair: on this question the yeas are 246. the nays are 173. the amendment is agreed to. the unfinished business is the request for recorded vote on amendment 47 presented in house report 112-88, offered by the gentlewoman from new york, mrs. maloney, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will designate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 47, printed in house report number 112-88, offered by mrs. maloney of new york. the chair: recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number havin

i hope we can get some local -- about the electronic bill -- if you don't know that cabdriver, two or three times, no pay, people are drunk and don't pay and people ask if you are mexican and they say go back to india, so now i tell them i am from madagascar are -- i don't like america 43 years. when i was young, i came here from madagascar are. i say 43 years i don't know if there is missing or not missing. nobody talked about this is going to each person or instead of going to the city, if we pay something, we must pay to our city. if city takes 5%, i'm happy and said of giving billion to some bank i don't know where is that bank of a charge and we are paying $10 to $15 extra per shift and before we have 10 people and now we have 300 criminal brains try to squeeze money from the cabdrivers and i think it's not mcdonnell-douglas and i don't understand about this thing. the last thing which i am saying, if we cry, it hurt you, please do not let us cry. thank you. [applause] >> [reading names] >> i made cabdriver. i think you could describe this as mission creep gone wild. we have a lo

. >> how about the electronics, wiring? >> electronic and low voltage wiring and all the other. >> all the wiring is in the core. we're not going to be loued to go in there -- allowed to go in there. the amount of power that comes into the building is mind-boggling. generally in the core and then taps off. >> when you say electronics you mean for the tenants themselves, all their telephone lines and computer lines. that's becoming a really big problem not just high rise but all buildings. it's a huge amount of wiring and the tenant moves out and you're left with all the wiring. the cost to the landlord is to remove this wiring. >> that's why it's nice to have a trench. but if you don't have the trench system then you just go overhead. it's pretty simple. you go to the electrical closet. you pull the wires, you go overhead, into your ceiling and drop down into your walls. almost everything you do you're trying to do overhead. that's what's great about the sooilg ceiling systems and the tall floor systems. >> the problem with

[tone] >> i would like to speak about the electronic waybills. when we pick up the customer and we are just dropping the customer, we need a ride and the passenger coming in the cab says he is not giving the time to write down the way bills. he just asks us to go and we cannot write exactly how much the fare is and how much he gives for the tip. we have -- we are already examined by the way bills and everything we have, so wheel we are already -- though waybills are scanned and we are the same way, we are scanned by the way bills, but with how is it to maintain the waybills -- we try to keep it but it is very stressful -- you are keeping each and every for their exactly as it is. the taxicab industry is big and i think we will lose good drivers, pushing the drivers like this, so please consider this matter. i am driving for eight years and there are senior drivers and there are younger drivers and the coming into the industry to drive, so please make a note of that. thank you very much for giving him the time. [tone] >> mr. chairman, seeing no on

i heard claims these a electronic waybills are going to be safe. i don't know how anybody can claim such a thing. in the history of mankind, and has been proving that man is not perfect and the pentagon could not provide personal information and the largest cab industries, the microsoft could not provided. they just recently found they have said their vulnerability and it cannot be protected. [tone] [applause] >> thank you. i am a cabdriver. one time, the homeless guy so drunk -- digest stop by the red light and he was so drunk he spit on my windshield. i a just can't do anything because i'm just a cabdriver. maybe he beat me or maybe he broke my window and i can do nothing. we're not challenging any rule or regulation, you are powerful and the budget people are making big decisions. but sometimes we come here to ask you, planes of people getting into it taxi is a like to be in the taxi exclusively and privately. most of the taxi rider's have an iphone. i just took the muni to come here. maybe they could put a good size television and they are happ

and where an electronic tag. a year ago today, clearing anti- government protesters, the red shirts had occupied parts of the capital trying to force the government to step down. by the time it was over, 90 people have lost their lives. joining me is our correspondent. is there a feeling that just as only belongs to one side? the protesters have so far been prosecuting. >> they will tell you that they feel very bitter and resentful about that. if you talk to the government and the military, they say there is the investigative process -- process going on. if anybody strayed outside the rules of engagement, they are subject to the law. but there is no one from the government or the military that has been held to account. there is still on hundred redshirt protesters. the charges include those of terrorism. but the most senior members were allowed only out on bail. there is a lot going on in terms of the judicial process and the emotional feelings on the street. there'll be a protest we are told. they occupied the c

electronics? it is questionable. >> i work for the yellow cab. i will mention two things. the first is that most of us will have them out. every night, we're going without food or money. they're not paying the costs for the charges to us. the second tinhorn is, [unintelligible] this will cost five% at least. >> i am here to point out and does the diversity of the cab drivers here. asserted smiling at 3:00 in the morning where the first report of this was going to be blowing up. it was reported everywhere. when you see this many drivers of different nationalities, different races, different countries showing up before you, you know it is serious. to understand that due process was not given to these drivers horn of coordination with them, something is wrong. this credit card issue, he said not to charge the driver's the fees. you should look at that. and it should be molded into how the industry works. last but not least, they schedule the town hall meetings. i'm glad they changed the schedule, but who really care? >> i have been driving 28 years with the taxi have sent fra

our next set of town hall meetings on june 6 and 7 will focus both on electronic way bill s&p. medallions -- waybills and peak period medallions. we have also heard some concerns that we need to get some experts to come and advise us. we are requesting the firm date be removed director heinicke: what is -- be removed. director heinicke: what is the firm date currently? >> july 21. but what we need the extra time to do -- director heinicke: i have no dispute about the extra time. i just wonder whether we should

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electronic currency when you say p.d.p. peer to peer i think music files flopping and there's computers and they have music on the computers and the computers are able to slot files of music p.d.p. in this way and they made famous from napster you know napster was a very few became very famous and victorians and bit torrent torrents for movies ok so you're now this is being applied to currencies right now it's being applied to currency so you can think of it as bit torrents for movies applied to currencies you can also think of it as p.g.p. encrypted email p.g.p. for money there's another way to think of it people know about pretty good privacy for email p.g.p. is an encryption technology that that's readily available readily available now it wasn't at first but now you can have and to and secure email rights to take us of things to a transaction so a normal transaction using bitcoin on the web so how would i as a consumer how do i do i interact with it well as a consumer you would initially download the bitcoin client and