says this is a personality clash and will not afct the eleions process. i think whenever the case, it wi certainly high lead questionsand criticisms about the credility of the election procs and the credibility of the gernment that then put into oupower. midkarzai has been criticized and if he is declared the winner, there's thissue of the lack of confidence. >> that split at the u.n. is mething that esident obama cod have done witut as he reews policy on afghistan. what should define military success? weave ben with u.s. marines and comnders believe they have the answer. >> it doesn't lookike the most dangous place onearth but something usual is happening here. while the insurgen rages all ar around, boys and men play as a holiday approach. if u want to see what the americanersion of success looks like, this is at. -- is it. the bgest danger for these troops is beingurrounded by children who wan gifts. is is a market three years ago, shot up and abanned. today, u. troops have drive them away and this is helup as a success story. security remains a proble

we had an eleion that let's just say is inconclusive atne vel. but if you rd the report and you read any review of any counterinsurgency,t's dependent on the government and its legitimacy to its people. now, the united state- and, again,'d like to remd people 've been at a war for eight yes. it was once called the forgotten war. it was also once... it w for a long te, as ihinkcchrystal report knows... said, he didn't realize, as hsays in the report, howad it was. that i it wasithout a strategynd was not resourced. not foa year,ot for two years,ot for three years, for eight yes in the region where al eda had launched the attacks. so the pple that are fighting today have a strategy general mcchrystal is... incredibl leadership is leading that effort with 68,000 troops the president ordered the additional 21,000, again, it's 68,000. the nal parts of that are just arriving. ior to election, the president said "i wantyour assessmt." and he's askedothers for the assessmentf how best to hieve the goals. it is only natural a president... and he wants hea

how does the political cnfusion in iran following the disputed presidential eleion cmplicate matts for wester negotiators who want iran to stop enriing uranium and come clean about s nuclear ambitns? >> it complicates ituite significantl in the past theiranian positio is we don't want a bomb and it's against theligion to develope the bomb. we didn't believe them, b an argument would be let's s down and basically pro that that's the se. right now w don't have anybody to sit wn and basical prove that's the case because even if the sreme leer which may not be supreme anymor because he's lost some ofis pestige says that, one i always concerned that maybe,maybe someo is not quite listening to him or the revolutionaryguards are doing things as opposed to what hs saying. so it complicates it enormously beuse we don't know whoo negotie with and we don't kn who to believe. >> fari-borz gaed ar,hank you very much >>. >>> just where was benjam netanyahu on monday? netanyu's officeaid he was visiting a governmt facility inside israe isrl's biggest newspaper isnow reporting tanyahu was o a secr mis

if the eleion had gone the other way to you think they would ha been holding o to olive bran?on't think so. he has tried that. it hasn't worked. he has to come on like our roosevelt and fight the people. i think he can d that. i think that is who he is at h core and he h to tl rubens and e exciterin and is summers. i've nev lived my lifeike that and i'm not gng to start now. tas: you speak about this with such greatassion. it is clearn your -- in all your wor it iclear that you care about everyday people. yocare about these issues. i kw atne point years ago you thoug about going into the ministry. >> did. tas: is this your -- is this yourinistry, the work tt you do? this docentary? i see it this w. >> the church ofinema? i like tt. well, listen, i feel very blessed anvery praved to be able to do wh -- andery ivileged to be able to do wh i do. coming out of flint, michigan. things are not staed this way for someone fm the working class to be ab to have this voice and have this fum to be sitting here talking to u. i feel as i have been sitting in is chair and makg tse movies it

. >> i afghanisn, eleions bring vience. itook real courage toote last month, and fehere want to do it again. i went to the home oa prinent human rights activist, surely a credible, transparcy -- transparently cln process is vit. >> why would i benthusiastic abo the second round? would it be a free and fair second round? if yousk ordiry people, they ar tired of the situion. let's al just get it ov a period we need to have a normal life. >> the electio rules might still demand a second round, t many here believe th turnout would be lower and the resu less credible ill than that of the clot firsround. if there is public mand for a second round or a long drawout investigation into fraud, it i coming from outside the country. governments wo have troops here fighting and in some cas dying have to keep persuading eir populations back home th it is worth the sacrifice. an ection that is widy pceived to be corrupor even stolen makes testifying bere efforts harder >> the 2h london fashioneek ends tomorropeered around 60 events in six

and maybe we are too anxious to have eleions. r enthusiasm for democracy ru beyond our cception of the ability to have effective democracy. first stage is elections, and the second stage is to give som pluraly that will keep the democry democratic. >>hen i was listening to the president is past week before a joint session of congress, had to sit and think, how long will it beefore he is back here before anotr address to convince lawkers that need to send te of thousandmore troops to afghanist? >> i think tt is going to happen versoon. i would imine that even sometime this fall, he is going tohave to make another appearance before the congress. >> comin back home t related to that part of theorld, there is t climate bill, ao known as the ergy bill, which has passedhe hse to e satisfacon of all sorts of divers constituencs and t the eat annoyance of all rts of diverse constuencies and which now leaders ithe senate. i have been wonring about at partilar bill. when y talk to tm outside the chamber, th talk abo their concern f the cma

how do the fact that we stll have adisputed eleion factor into all of this? >> it's a big fator.theadministration says that that's been onof the reasons that they're having to relook at thistrategy. on august 20, tey held a presidential electionn afghanistan. mid karzai has claied to be the winner. that is largely in dispute. the are thousands and thousands of disputed baots. the stemate could g on unti next spring. inhat case, i think it cmes to the funmental question of if you're doina counterinsurgency, is the united states prepared to trai 34,000 soldiers to ultimaly serve government th the united states considers corru and iompetent. i think that one of the reasons this dete is flourished. >> when should we expect a decision from the prident? has he impoed a deadne on himself or from coress? >> he suggested he will take weeks and week partf the reason they think they have e time is they don't have the troops right now, espeally with the troops in ir right now. thfeeling is the unted states can't pull a troops ut until after the presidential eletions in iraq in anuary. so tha

eleion is coming up and i won't vote for him. >> reporter: the mayor says the critics don't phase hime, i'm energized about how far we have to go and the potential to grow and become a world-class city. >> so far, the mayor's only other challenger is a man named brown. then again the primary election is still a year away. >> thank you. >>> so what was he thinking? >> kanye west back in the headlines, the on-stage rant causing celebrities and fans to launch into anger of their own. the backlash coming up. >>> and coming up in moments, a park where children come to play, transformed into a crime scene. the news edge looking at a brutal stabbing there in the community. what is happening to stop the violence. >>> and plus, planning to book a flight this fall? you may have a tough time finding what you need. we'll have more. >>> plus, a beautiful start state of to the work week, that could change, according to sue palka. report is on the other side and was named an iihs top safety pick. all for just $179 a month. and like all new volkswagens, it comes with 3 years or 36,000 miles of no-cha

he cannot make tha claim today because of thecontested nature the eleion. >> charlie: did he lose thelection? are the numbers not we peeive them? >> in the 2009 election, the regime released the resul that he got 62% othe votelmost immediatel afterhe election was ended -- election da leadyo to lieve that they didn even count the ballots. he got62% of the vote in almost every district -- in almost every principali. the numbers st didn't ange. it's the mos strgest statistical deviaon one ha seen by all accounts,t's hard to belie that 85% of the iranians would go to the llot and mrahmadinejad wld get that kind of plurality, so he most certainly di't get that vote. probably lost the ection. but nevertheless, they engaged in this massive frau the long-term, they do have a problemwith the populationhat is urban, well educated and restive. in the short term, t problem the regime faces is a very serious fragmentation wiin the elite, a fragmentati that i mypinion is unbreachle. many membe of the regime have separated themselves fm the ste, and you begin to see the government engage in wholesal

>> well,he democracy they've seen is fromheir perspective a fraudulent eleion that's ought about a government that's me corrupt, in their view, than even the taban was. d by the way, they don't get any more basic serces. they have to pay a lotore in bribes to t basic things done. their rlords in some cases are more empowed under the system, not le. who wod want to democracy under that? i think have to think about how we've defined democry in their mis. 's really become about suival. >> moyers: i know fr reading that o forces are trying to do some good things tre. roads, schoo, they move into a villag get acquainted with the elrs, try to establish some bas of trust and credibility. and yet, tn, you know an attack during a dding party, i was reading e other day, will completely nege those good intentions, right? >> that's righ i was in zhari dtrict, which about 20 miles west of kandar. when the canadians fst came in, ey painted schools and th built new schools for the residents. and yoknow what happened? the nato forces entually had destroy them, because the taliban tookhem over. so... >> moyer

near as much of an impt as his two earlier interviews with steve kroft on "60 minutes" since the eleion, since he bece president. usually en a president of the united tats goes on "60 minute that is amajor event. it has become more coonplace and i think metimes can be a little harder to break rough if it ijust okay, there he goes again >> rose: you leslikely to say i have got toee this because it is soare. now you think you ve seen it because he habeen at other places. let just make one point about that, the predictable of it. i would suggest that the white house will assume there will be all kinds of questions but they will know 90% ofhe questions that are asked, as welas thought about themwouldn't you think so, john? >> charlie, i think you're absoluly right. i agre with jennife i think the risks of this are pretty low. i n't thinthere are too many people in the wte house sweatingullets because ey think barack obama can't hand himself in front of camera. yes, the speci olympics thing, he was trying to be funny. it actually w kind of funny but it was theind of thing that he hato take b

there is more than one eleion heldn afghanistan, and the development of provincial structures, local governments, regional governments are equally important to afghanistan as the development of strong national government that people of afghanistan can believe in. to be sure. we don't hav -- we have a multifaceted aroach here. we are trying to help central government expand its ability to extend sovereignty to all parts of afghanistan that has been our strategq. but at the same time, all lot of the systems that deputy secretary luas talking about have to be developed at the local vel. that will require cooperation with local autries so i do think that we will be engaging throughout afghanistan as we are able to stabilize the situation across the country and we wi be working wh the local leaders hopeful those selected through the free and fair means that yes that is a vitally important part of our strategy because ultimately if you are able to strengthen institutions at all levels as you are able to deliver effectivgovernment and services to the people, that's how you build credibili w

like as a token of our-- [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> now a discussion on japan recent eleion in the future of u.s. relations with that country. cbs news chief washington correspondent, bob schieffer, moderates this one our discussion. the center for strategic and international studies host the event. >> i am sorry to interrupt your conversations that we want to get going and we are glad t have all of you here today. would like to think it was brilliance tt wasble to time the election in this event, you know but dumb luck sometimes went out over brilliance and we are really glad to have a chance to have evybody here today. to come together to talk about this election in japan. this was probably one of the most monumental political developments in the last 20 or 30 years in asia, and what does that mean? that is what we are going to export to night and we have got some fabulous people to help us do that. this is the third of our series that we do jointly with tc-99 youth's schaefer school of journalism. we are really proud to have that opportunity in thank youo very much. i l

2010, 2012, do you just want to speculate on how there could be a shift in any kind of character of eleions could particularly hurt democratic candidates? >> everybody who is ever hazard a guess about the impact on law amitabh law on public behavior have been wrong. at the ib inved to the wrong publicly and i will decline the invitation. i will say one thing about the rnc, however. there is and is probably has alsoeen mentioned, there are other cases currently pending, and was in fact argued only a week ago and the court of appeals against the democratic national committee is also present as aarty in which the rnc is looking to lift the soft-money funding restrictions for the mccain-feingold off of the legal parties. in other words, permit the legal parties for circumcised in five and a wide range of references to collect soft money. so if you look at the rnc as a whole and sor of where it is positioning itself in these very legal controversy, i think his position on this case here is quite clear. >> do you want to respond to that? sure. i will respond to that by agreeing in fact, the rnc