creative industry podcast on channel one is hosted today by tuturesen, we are still hosting elena cyprus yess about the creative industries and your family is so creative. how do you keep track of the competition when you're making your own show, because there's a huge amount of other content out there that, uh, is more successful just for account of what works at low at low frequency. yes, that is, if we are talking about the family and about the family values ​​that you are talking about and reporting, yes, that is, you are showing a model. i would say so, yes, it turns out that this show shows a model of families. and how do you evaluate the team somehow here? yes, you do it together. no, i don’t know, maybe i was so lucky with the team, but, of course, when we let’s put it this way, we realized that this topic was becoming our professional activity, that we kind of media family. yes, and i guess i looked around, especially when we went to social networks, uh-huh, and for me it was generally quite a serious violence against myself, because i had this journalistic arrogance. you know, afte