michael graham thinks the court should make exception. both are radio talk show hosts and welcome ba to "america's newsroom." elenaat one point during the 90 minutes of oral arguments. quite a number of medical treatments religious groups object to. one religious group could opt out of this and opt out of that and everything would be piecemeal and nothing would be uniform. we read between the comments and you think that kagan supports the mandate an she might. we'll find out in june but, michael, which way is this going to go? can hobley lobby win this case? >> not only can they win it, i think based on analysis seen so far likely to win it. point something out. before president obama invented requirement that private businesses must be forced to buy birth control before he invented it out of whole cloth. not in obamacare, regulations invented we have no problems at all. they were either working for companies who provided it or bought it themselves. came up with a deal add it to eninsurance coverage. this problem is invented entirely by obama administration invented to promote political agenda of bogus war on wome