eli haynes is the true killer maker. so we're going to recess that is today i would say we received what i like to call a nugget a golden nugget if i'm successful and using and implementing that nugget then i'm hopeful that the jury will use that bit of information in my favor in my client's favor when they deliberate as to whether or not my client committed this crime. ladies and gentlemen let me begin by saying that in a criminal trial sometimes there's a moment not only has every piece of evidence presented by the prosecution been discredited or rendered meaningless we are also shown that is there is a far more believable suspect in this killing who is not on trial here. we know that he lied on hughes the gun that killed genesis 3 months earlier and then sure to bring forward to make sure that carry stranger through this is false testimony. ladies and gentlemen of the trier is a search for the truth that's why we're here we want to know what really happened that night and we don't that was the place and poor detective

stand he texted someone saying eli is here and the response came back what eli doing there which leads us to conclude only one thing. cafferty swingler testified today under the pressure of pointing the finger at my client because he knows that. eli haynes is the true killer think if you. were going to recess at this today i would say we received what i like to call a nugget a golden nugget if i'm successful and using and implementing that nugget then i'm hopeful that the jury will use that bit of information in my favor in my client's favor when they deliberate as to whether or not my client committed this crime. ladies and gentlemen let me begin by say that in a criminal trial sometimes there's the moment not only has every piece of evidence presented by the prosecution been discredited or rendered meaningless we are also shown that is there is a far more believable suspect in this killing who is not on trial for years. we know that he lied on he used the gun that killed genesis 3 months earlier and then sure to bring forward to make sure that carry swings are planned through this is

back to us is abby phillip and elie honig.the witnesses say because we've read their depositi depositions. and i understand what they add to it. but why are they necessary at this point? why are they necessary? >> they are reinforcing two key points. fiona hill is critical to the centrality of the lawyers. rudy giuliani, what was he doing there and what a problem he was for the real diplomats who were trying to run this. and her testimony is relevant to that. she put in a complaint when she learned about what was going on. it went up to the lawyer eisenberg, who is not hiding away. neither of these guys is going to testify but there's questions about what did they know and what happened? and holmes' testimony comes down to me to one word, investigations. he can put the word investigations in donald trump's mouth. >> and biden's potentially. >> what was that? >> the thing that holmes testifies to that sondland denies, when sondland got off the phone and explained what the president wanted, he ways basically -- he specified, he

back with us, rachael bade and elie honig.uestions about conspiracy to defraud the united states, obstruction of justice, making false statements to federal initials, wire fraud, money laundering. the list goes on here, violations of federal election laws that prohibit the use of straw donors and foreign money in u.s. elections. again, right now, it's just his associates who are under investigation, but his name comes up in the subpoena, ellie, and there's that long list there. how worried should he be? >> that subpoena is an interesting tell for me. when you do a subpoena in the southern district of new york, there's a line. what are you investigating? we would just list conspiracy to tell the world and the target nothing, as little as we could. the fact that they listed out all those statutes that you just read to me is a warning shot, and it's something that would concern me a lot if i was representing rudy giuliani, and those crimes are largely the same crime that parnas is charged with. >> i don't know if you need to be a

elie honig is back with us. are these cases the supreme court has to take up, or can they let the lower court decision stand? >> the supreme court doesn't have to take a case. they're very despairing. on one hand the cases are obviously a vast significance, of constitutional significance. they have do with the balance of powers and the balance between state and federal authorities. they're the kind of weighty issues the supreme court likes to take. on the other hand they like to take cases that are close calls and cases disputed. neither of those apply here, so i think it's a close call whether the supreme court takes either of those. if the court does not take them, then the rulings of the court stand and it goes over to the d.a. or congress. >> let's split them up. let's start with the new york district attorney cyrus vance. he's gotting whether the president's employees falsified business records to hide payments to stormy daniels, karen mcdougal. would it be customary for the court through its decisions to d

host: this is elie mystal. he is a contributing editor to "the nation" and the executive editor of "above the law." host: good morning. -- guest: good morning. host: tell us about what you do. the trumping about administration is pretty exciting because every day pre-march something illegal happens. host: and the above the law website? guest: the court will take a huge gun case -- they will take a case that really should be moot. that about a new york law restricted how you can travel with guns. new york changed the law after was challenged, but the court is thinking of taking it up really to throw a fastball at any kind of gun regulation. and i say again, people who are concerned about gun reform and are not focused on the supreme court are just doing it all wrong because with this conservative court, no gun legislation will pass constitutional muster with these five conservatives. host: do you expect the other four to follow suit as far as opposition? guest: i think it will be a straight 5-4 decision with kav

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eli lake, call immersed for a bloomberg opinion. we did not plan that.right before the show. we are not going to ask you about bloomberg. charlie, what about bloomberg? >> charlie: well, what does it say about the state of the race and the democratic field right now? in the past three years, bloomberg on issues like climate change and gun control. he's not some sort of right wing conservative democrat or anything like that. he's a pretty liberal guy. he's looking at the field of democrats and scratching his head saying, what in the world. we can't win with this. democrats can't win with this. i think it's a pretty assessment of the current field. >> bret: it's the same assessment that tom steyer, another billionaire made as he looked at the 17-20 candidates. he said, you know what? i'm getting in. he is not someone who bloomberg things can get it across the finish line either. >> charles: yet. when you talk in democratic circles to more mainstream democrat it dominic operates who have been around for a long time who love the democrats and will do anythin

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. >>> elie honig is here. and sam vinegrad as well. good to have you here.u worked a little bit with david hale. >> i did. >> his resume speaks for itself. what do you make of what we know, a little bit about what he's telling lawmakers right now? >> i think one thing we should expect is that the under secretary is going to tell lawmakers about the impact of this irregular channel and the impact of undermining u.s. ambassadors like marie yovanovitch. we heard about that from bill taylor and yovanovitch. and so we should expect hale to lay that out. also he is still at the state department. this was something that came up in some of the released transcripts yesterday. he was part of a meeting about how the state department is supposed to respond to congressional inquiries. there's a potential obstruction of congress, article that could be introduced. i think he'll talk about that and finally, poppy, he'll get to this question of why pompeo was so reluctant to defend the ambassador. on the email chain about the statement and finally in his role as under secret

elie, let's start with marie yovanovitch. what do we know and what do we expect? >> marie yovanovitch is the epitome of a career public service professional. she served in the united states foreign service for 33 years over 6 administrations. four of them republican, two democrat. so it's going to be hard to attack her as being partisan or political. she was removed by donald trump in may of 2019. look at some of the things her colleagues have said about her publicly. one witness in this probe called her an extraordinarily competent and skillful diplomat. another called her excellent, serious, and committed. and this is important. another person said she is someone who has never been hungry for the spotlight. so when we're watching her testify today, if she looks nervous or uneasy, it's not necessarily that the questions are putting her on her heels. she may just not be a spotlight type of person. >> elie, if she was so highly regarded, then why was she recalled? >> good question. so yovanovitch made her name as an ambassador as an anticorruption advocate and crus

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to your point, elie he's doing damage control when he's saying no quid pro quo. he believes he's been found out. he believes the scheme has been unveiled. he knows congress may be getting involved at some point. he's probably turning to the news every day wondering when it's going to come out. so he needs to be able to say, oh, i said to gordon sondland no quid pro quo. but this is directly contradicted by the transcript of the july 25th phone call. >> that they provided of course. >> it's contradicted by so much other evidence. you talked about connecting dots before. we're at a point now where you don't need to connect dots. you need to just let the dots wash over you. the picture is very clear. i mean that no quid pro quo, that is damage control. that is because we now know that in late august, he had been told about the whistle-blower complaint, and he knew that this was ultimately going to bubble into the public light. >> i want to read this from the "times" reporting. they talk about how the intelligence i.g., michael atkinson, concluded the complaint neede

eli stokels, thank you. katrina mulligan, michael steele with an e. thank you, mimi.next witness testimony has put a bright spotlight on the break down of u.s. diplomacy under this administration, don't you think inmaybe trump would have been better leaving the diploem osto the diplomats. you're watching "hardball." dips you're watching "hardball. lking) lking) for every dollar you spend at a small business, an average of 67 cents stays local. shop small and watch it add up. small business saturday by american express is november 30th. (honk!) i hear you sister. that's why i'm partnering with cigna to remind you to go in for your annual check-up, and be open with your doctor about anything you feel - physically and emotionally. but now cigna has a plan that can help everyone see stress differently. just find a period of time to unwind. a location to de-stress. an activity to enjoy. or the name of someone to talk to. to create a plan that works for you, visit cigna.com/mystressplan. cigna. together, all the way. visit cigna.♪ m/mystressplan. can you tell me the story a

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elie honig is here, rick wilson as well. rick is the author of the upcoming book -- wow, upcoming book, "running against the devil." a lot to save america from trump. the democrats and the democrats from themselves. boy, you had your work cut out for you with that book, a big undertaking. good evening. why don't we start with you, then because a campaign of lies, injurious to the rule of law. that's how george kent described giuliani's role in the ukraine scandal. these transcripts show rudy's fingerprints were all over everything. what does that say to you? >> look, i think what this indicates is that donald trump was looking for anybody who would execute a nongovernmental set of policy demands that end to engage in, to get political dirt on the bidens. he enlisted rudy in it, rudy took the job and unfortunately he found himself now in the position where he's going to end up which is donald trump is going to leave him hanging out to dry. every bit of this evidence so far has said that all of the diplomatic folks, all the in

. >>> elie honig, former federal and state prosecutor is here. frank bowman, professor at the university of missouri school of law and author of "high crimes and misdemeanors." let me begin with you. you worked with dan goldman in the southern district of new york. what can you tell us about what we can expect from him and if you can weigh in on steve castor doing the questioning on the republican side. >> so i expect dan goldman to take a prosecutorial approach tomorrow. he only has 45 minutes. that's way longer than we're used to seeing. longer than the five-minute snippets with corey lewandowski. but it's still not much time. the depositions ran eight, ten hours each. he'll go v have to go right for jugular. a good prosecutor knows when you have a good witness, and these witnesses, taylor and yovanovitch, are going to be friendly to house democrats. so the focus should be on the witness, not the questioner. the other individual i don't know but from all impressions that i've heard, he's an experienced and capable questioner as well. so it shou

elie, i was asking that just because the idea of pardoning someone.s not going to be dragged out of the white house in handcuffs. someone is going to pardon him. people say, oh, it's state charges, but these are not. >> these are federal charges. he can pardon pretty much anybody he wants. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >>> jane fonda has been getting arrested pretty much every friday lately, and president trump is taking notice tonight. >> and they arrested jane fonda. nothing changes. i remember 30, 40 years ago. she always has the handcuffs on. oh, man. she's waving to everybody with the handcuffs. >> oh, boy. well, i'm going to ask her about those arrests and about this president. jane fonda is next. these folks, they don't have time to go to the post office they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the amazing services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4-week trial plus postage and a

my name is eli hill. she says i'm a client partner at slalom consulting. for disclosure, i serve as a member of san raphael fire commission, but in my role today, i'm only speaking as a slalom consultant. so building on sarah's conduct, this leveraged a paper-based system as she mentioned, but the d.p.a. this year made a focused investment on d.p.a. technology to introduce a foundational tool to introduce timely and accurate report with specific reference to 1421 in mind. the tool provides near real-time visibility to cases in progress and opportunity for improved efficiency in collaboration. looking forward, the d.p.a. can leverage case data to drive policy recommendations. and in considerations of lessons learned on this endeavor, i would raise a couple categories, namely training and adoption of the system as well as data. so a couple comments about that. time for training and adoption of the new technology by d.p.a. personnel was insufficient. we would have included an additional month of training. and although there is 100% data integrity, there are s

elie, i was asking that just because the idea of pardoning someone. say he's not going to be dragged out of the white house in handcuffs. someone is going to pardon him. people say, oh, it's state charges, but these are not. >> these are federal charges. he can pardon pretty much anybody he wants. >>> jane fonda has been getting arrested pretty much every friday lately, and president trump is taking notice tonight. >> and they arrested jane fonda. nothing changes. i remember 30, 40 years ago. she always has the handcuffs on. oh, man. she's waving to everybody with the handcuffs. >> oh, boy. well, i'm going to ask her about those arrests and about this president. jane fonda is next. that's what happens in golf nothiand in life.ily. i'm very fortunate i can lean on people, and that for me is what teamwork is all about. you can't do everything yourself. you need someone to guide you and help you make those tough decisions, that's morgan stanley. they're industry leaders, but the most important thing is they want to do it the right way. i'm really excited

eli, stick with me. president trump made a surprise trip to walter reed medical center on saturday. the white house framed the unannounced visit as phase one of the president's annual physical exam. the president's two previous physicals were on the public schedule in the past and announced well ahead of time. they did not take place over multiple phases. so, eli, my question is, what exactly is going on and why haven't we seen the president yesterday and why are we not seeing him today? >> well, we don't know. we'll often go over the course of a weekend not seeing the president. that is not abnormal. what is abnormal is the president making a surpriseis have it on saturday afternoon to walter reed to do the first part of his annual physical. usually those are done all at once, usually the staff at walter reed gets a head's up when a vip is coming. that didn't happen. and the white house is insisting everything is fine, but it is just very difficult to give them the benefit of the doubt on that or much of anything at this point given all the falsehoods that we've seen from the presi

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eli, it's always wonderful to have you. friend, for spending some time with us. >>> after the break for a president who says he is completely innocent of all wrongdoing, he sure has a lot of friends going to jail. more on the latest convicted felon in donald trump's inner, inner circle. that's next. inner circle that's next. we didn't know where to turn for more information. that's why i recommend a free service called a place for mom. we have local senior living advisors who can answer your questions about dementia or memory care and, if necessary, help you find the right place for your mom or dad. we all want what's best for our parents, so call today. if you're stayingcessful businessat holiday inn.is easy, i've always loved and i'm still going for my best, even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin, i'll go for that. eliquis. eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. plus has significantly less major

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michael steel, former advisor, eli stokels.let's go to the president's play book, it was all about drain the swamp, drain the swamp, his newest edition to the impeachment team, seems like she lives in the swamp. now she is hired to defend the president against a quid pro quo right after she leaves being a lobbiest for a number of companies. how can the president stand on the train the workman's comp argume -- swamp argument after making a claim like this. >> he has never been shamed out of any actions, moving forward with things just because these things are in plain sight. he doesn't care about that. it is beside the point to this president, and as peter talked about, they need new people, new faces to come in and carry a message. the president, yes he has the loudest megaphone but he wants other people to defend him, especially on tv. and if you watched the sunday shows, the few administration officials that have gone on the shows have a tough time defending him. i think these folks have been pushing to get more people in to

eli: thank you. i think there is a distinction to be made between several actors in the chinese firmament, if you will come up between and aiibelop in bank on the other hand. alumnirgely populated by , and they have environmental and social safeguards in most of the projects so far have been co-financed with these other mainline institutions. ie china development bank think is a different story. is thehink that this story of any rising power, when there is a multilateral organization. they will try to assert their influence using that tool. just the way denmark does at the world bank. the magic word for the relationship between denmark and the world bank is leverage. the united states has leverage at the world bank. the united states has put in, if the new capital increases go through, we left put in exactly $3 billion of capital, and with that $3 billion, that institution has done eight hundred billion dollars of lending -- has done $800 billion of lending. imagine that same equation from denmark's

here's ely in her tweet.for their amazing efforts and desiccation. that's the walk-back, oh, sorry, actually i still like them. >> she deleted the original post and so did the user. so they want to make it all disappear like it never happened. you cannot bow to the whoa crowd and do what you got to do. >> why do you think crowd exists? >> the crowd exists because at a certain point i do believe that there was some people who felt like their voices weren't being heard. now they have such a platform, via social media and they created what i like to call cancel culture. they love to cancel these celebrities. and they exist to do that. but a lot of these celebrities have to start pushing back and i appreciate that ely goulding did come back and say the salvation army does good work. i'm a part of this mission and i'm going to support it. >> we reached out to ely goulding, her team and the l salvation army, have not heard back. we will update if they want to check in. rob, breesh yate appreciate you. >> the nfl su

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host: this is elie mystal.is a contributing editor to "the nation" and the executive editor of "above the law." host: good morning. -- guest: good morning. host: tell us about what you do. the trumping about administration is pretty exciting because every day pre-march something illegal happens. host: and the above the law website? guest: the court will take a huge gun case -- they will take a case that really should be moot. that about a new york law restricted how you can travel with guns. new york changed the law after was challenged, but the court is thinking of taking it up really to throw a fastball at any kind of gun regulation. and i say again, people who are concerned about gun reform and are not focused on the supreme court are just doing it all wrong because with this conservative court, no gun legislation will pass constitutional muster with these five conservatives. host: do you expect the other four to follow suit as far as opposition? guest: i think it will be a straight 5-4 decision with kavanau

robert acost is joining me, brandon buck, and eli stokles. a white house reporter for the "l.a. times." what did your sources tell you about these conversations. if impeachment hearings go on and on that will push us right up against the election. >> yeah, and at the senate talking to republicans it became clear there is a divide in the senate gop. some want to push for a long trial and they think the democrats should squirm because they called for this impeachment in the first place. at the same time some are more hesitant about a trial and they want to have a quick dismissal or vote because they think there is too much political risk in an extended trial. >> what do you think, brandon? could it backfire for the president? he wants to talk about a fight, wouldn't a lengthy trial work for him? >> i don't know, he doesn't seem to love the conversation around impeachment. now look, mitch mcconnell certainly enjoying toying with democrats, no doubt about that. the important thing to understand is that he alone, mitch mcconnell, decides what happens. and i think there are two main f

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joining us now elie honig and charlie dent.s always with excellent reporting, the picture comes into sharper focus. for the past week, we knew the white house counsel's office knew about the whistle-blower complaint so it stood to reason that they had briefed president trump as they do. and now we know from people who saw it all unfold, from people on the inside. the yes, he knew about the whistle-blower complaint. and then on september 9th, he knew that congress had been informed about the whistle-blower. they were beginning an investigation. and then magically he released the aid to ukraine. >> i'm just wondering how long it took white house counsel to run down the hall and tell president trump. probably as much time as it took to cover those 20 yards or whatever. shocker. another defense bites the dust, right? as recently as yesterday, the silver bullet defense was when he talked to gordon sondland, he said i want nothing. i want no quid pro quo. that defense was doomed from the start. >> but it was after he knew -- >> of co

joe lockhart and elie honig with us now. we've got a big week ahead.o there's this deadline from chairman nadler that the white house has to respond to if they're going to participate legally in the next phase of the impeachment inquiry. you're going to see a formal report of what the investigations have found to date. break this down for folks using your experience on being on the other side. >> yeah. i think for news value, the intel report written by schiff and dan goldman and the committee is going to really pull all the things that happened together. the hearing will be just like in 1998. there'll be some constitutional scholars who argue what happened here is impeachable. it'll explain what a high crime and misdemeanor is. i don't expect the president's lawyers to participate in that. because this is a legal constitutional argument. their argument is political. they don't have evidence that helps them. they don't, you know, have a legal theory here that helps them. so i think when that's done, the house judiciary committee will begin to basically

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so i think that's maybe the thinking. >> quickly to eli.ayor could get under the president's skin. >> as he did after the dnc. >> he's 50 times richer or 200 million times richer or whatever it is. but he's also a new yorker and he's very, very tough. you worked with him and i know him well. he's a tough guy. but the last thing on capitalism, you got to be very, very careful with capital itself because capital flows to incentives and if she corrupts the incentives in the society, you will disrupt the flow. >> you and i first spoke now about a decade ago. you were backing obama. whoa, things were different back then. >> let me explain that. i'm a lifelong republican. president obama and i knew each other in law school. i was politically agnostic at the time. working as a business entrepreneur. had given checks to chuck schumer, as donald trump did. given checks to secretary clinton, as donald trump did did. i say, jeez, how many times in my life am i going to know somebody running for president? >> it's a crowded race already. >> let me ask

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and, eli, why hasn't president trump cut rudy giuliani loose?e's done that with other people who have presented problems for him, done that with other people who have flown too close to the sun. >> he hasn't yet. >> point taken. >> no one knows where this is going, what the president's going to say about rudy giuliani day-to-day. again we said the president doesn't get caught in contradictions or hypocrisies being pointed out. rudy giuliani is being presented by the president as a great corruption fighter. and you have this new report that he was over in ukraine seeking out business deals for himself while he was representing the president. i mean, it's almost sort of just too much and, you know, if you step back from it, you see -- i don't know that trump will be embarrassed by that or worry about that. but he entrusted rudy to do this. >> yeah. >> that's clear. it almost doesn't matter what he says at this point or when he cuts him loose, whether giuliani goes dark from here on out. but, you know, the president believes to doug's point that th

joining me now is our prosecutor in resident elie honig. thank you for being with us.dor william taylor. what are the biggest revelations from the testimony from him that was just released? >> yeah, john. we'll be hearing from bill taylor next week. by the way, i think that's by tactical design. he is the perfect leadoff witness. his testimony goes right to the heart of the matter and he's backed up. the first thing that bill taylor testified about is this irregular, informal channel of u.s. policy making with respect to ukraine. that consistented of volker, sondland, perry, and rudy giuliani. taylor told us what that second channel did is the security assistance got blocked by the second channel. security assistance here, that's the hundreds of millions of dollars in foreign aid we've been talking about. and taylor saw that that was wrong. taylor testified to stop it, to hold it for no apparent reason i could see was undercutting the u.s. policy. that's a critical point. this aid was being withheld contrary to our best foreign policy interests. now, taylor, one of the

but if you want to look at some eli chairman mao look at somebody tries to wiggle their way out really cracks because stalin and mao believed the marxist ideology but trying to have it both ways that atheism is not a religion so then you say you are right that the issues have faith you're wrong atheism is not a faith it is a non- belief in god. is not a religion. that's a religion. so atheism itself is not a religion but if he says stalin wasn't really an atheist then you just said stalin did believe in god. he's dating is. pot. he's an atheist. all of them were atheist by their very definition so if you want to look at the consequences of religious belief the wickedness done by the atheist is overwhelming not saying everyone in the doctor is a good guy. is probably compassionate and they can be good people but were just talking about history. >> throughout your book there is a god that you address the lds church what is that and are you a member cracks. >> yes i appreciate you use the word lds people are not trying to use the term roman that people applied it as an epithet that the bo

joining us no elie honig and margaret taleb.liani went to ukraine, says "the times" and "the post" to dig up dirt on the bidens. but at the same time he was soliciting work or negotiated contracts with one of these ukrainians who was going to do the dirt digging here. what does this pose for giuliani? >> this is why they have the foreign agents registration act. it's an obscure federal statute. but the point is if you are representing a foreign interest bb a foreign government, a gorn business, a foreign national and you're in the united states doing business on behalf of the foreign national with the government lobbying, you have to register. because our public officials up to and including the president have a right to know who they're talking to, who they're dealing with. and the problem rudy's created is he's crossed so many wires, so much money flowing back and forth, so many mixed conflicting interests that he certainly never registered. i think this puts him in trouble with the corrupt prosecutor. >> does it matter he did

joining me now is cnn legal analyst elie honig. great to see you. wow. a lot to talk about here.ot of drama in this courtroom. i guess we shouldn't expect any less given we're talking about roger stone here. let's get right to these text messages at the heart of this controversy. over a series of text messages, asking him to cover stone's alleged percentage. stone responded what the "f" blank is your problem. matter of us have done anything wrong or illegal. cedico then wrote, you opened yourself up to the six counts of perjury. what does that tell you? >> this is a string of lying liars lying to one another. and it's hard to even know what's truth and reality as between roger stone and randy credico. the bottom line charges against roger stone are fairly straightforward and fairly benign. for example, roger stone lied to congress about they asked him whether he had any emails or texts or any other communication about julian assange. he said no. he has dozens. he was asked whether he communicated with randy credico electronically by email or text about assange. he had communicate

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about labor -- i think other members on the front bench have distanced themselves from senator kaine elyt she has not taken the advice of my department that people pose a certain risk. they are terrorists that pose a risk if they return to our country. and if she is out there calling for them to come back to our country. then't think that reflects view of the majority of the australian public. the public support this government. they know national security is a significant issue. i know only this government has the ability to keep australians safe. we know they have given up on border protection. they have ordered down every bill that has come before this parliament. -- and the latest for ray into the media demonstrates a labour party has no idea what they are doing when it comes to national security. there have been widespread protests around climate particularly here in australia. many have seen ongoing demonstrations. mp's wanted to know whether or not australia will meet the kyoto and paris commitments. >> my question is to the minister for energy. reduction however that the governme