about so many heroes, forefathers, american revolution, alexander hamilton, george washington, eli whitney, all of these heroic figures, but never learned about a man that letter revolution or the two miles west of where i grew up. one of learned about the story, what it did for my self-esteem, the fact that it added to the narrativ p intense sense of pride. as an artist, it got me to thinking, if more people can see not only his contributions but what he was fighting against in a real and authentic way, is that something that can inspire the conversation around racial justice in a way that is inclusive and not necessarily politically correct, but gets us engaged in who we are as america film with the help of so many people. my whole pitch in this thing was , this is something we can get to our children, and that can inspire the change we want to see in this country. karen: what does it say to you, the story of nat turner seems to have been dairy by those that write history in america? >> it says that there is obviously trauma that we are not willing toe. we are not proud of. that doesn't