and white house correspondent for politico, eliana johnson. great to have both you.have 12 tapes now. what do you think? >> i think there are two questions, first of all, what's on the tapes? second of all, why did they withdraw their claim of privilege? not to go too inside the weeds on the legal side, but in general if you're under investigation and you can keep documents out of the hands of the government -- >> you do. >> -- you do. so did they let these go because they knew that they were going to be ordered disclosed anyway and they're avoiding a bad ruling by the judge? or because giuliani suggested, they're exculpatory and exclusionary. >> i want to talk about what giuliani said in a second. eliana, first, though, trump's strategy is go after michael cohen, the guy who said he would take a bullet for him, now trump is out for him. inconceivable a lawyer would tape a client. perhaps illegal. every client of a lawyer would agree with that. the white house press secretary sarah sanders today tried to downplay how worried trump is about all of this. here is how sh

now to eliana's point, they're sort of in the worst of both worlds. not only did his base not want him to sign that order, the president himself was e areluct to sign that order. it actually hasn't had any effect. he's had to walk back the policy, and he hasn't been able to reverse the negative effects. it's a tough spot. >> this is, is it not, the way things play out under trump, right? as i hear you talking about that, i was covering north korea, it reminds me, you have things thrown out there, get the summit together, but there were no specifics about what was actually going to be agreed to. you you're trying to clean that up. you see this pattern with a whole host of issues, foreign and domestic, with this administration. >> i think it's particularly acute in the immigration policymaking process. at politico, we wrote a piece about presidential adviser stephen miller. he's hosted sort of secretive immigration policy meetings. the government agencies are caught unawares. i think that injects sort of chaotic and confusing aspects, particularly into

a controversy in san francisco, a new push to ban cafis and office spaces, joining us with more, eliana? >> reporter: he's big corporate companies, the tech startups decided they were coming to san francisco, became with business models that included a big local boost for these businesses. they went ahead and built these in-house cafeterias for the employees, but it kind of took away the business from the local restaurants. the city was to change that. a thriving metropolis and sam cisco, filling the air with flavorful aromas, for any pallet. >> the restaurant owners be her for the consequences hurting the business. >> there is a little bit of a vacuum of foot traffic.>> reporter: the farm to table restaurant, a unique approach to climate change. setting off from market street two years ago, a promising location, many neighboring tech locations have in-house cafeterias that are difficult to compete with. >> you can't compete with free food, great for companies that can afford it, but it doesn't do anything to extend the community around it.>> reporter: teaming up with 2 of san francisco

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eliana gomez ktvu fox 2 news. >>> a secret recording of trump made by his former attorney was publicly released tonight as attorney michael cohen made the tape two months before the 2016 election. collins attorney provided to cnn -- cohen's attorney provided it to cnn. the justice department is reportedly looking into whether payments made by and for the president violated federal campaign finance laws. the conversation appears to be about repaying the national enquirer for $150,000 in payments it made to former plated -- playmate model karen mcdougal who claimed she had an affair with trump in 2006 but the inquirer which was friendly to mr. trump never ran the story. trump is heard on the tape asking what financing and cohen says we'll have to pay. ends. >>> mike pompeo and defense secretary james mattis just wrapped up two days of meetings with australian a fishers at stanford -- officials at stanford as part of an annual summit to discuss global security between the two nations. secretary of mike -- state mike pompeo calling australia one of america's strongest friends and allies al

with me now, eliana johnson for politicoment back with us, abby phillip at the white house.to have you both here. looking at all of this, your reporting this morning is fascinating because you say morale inside the white house, your reporting is, it's at the lowest point it's been since both sides debacle around charlottesville. what's the net effect of, though? is this just people feeling low? morale low? or does this mean departures are in the work? >> i think the former, poppy. that was the upshot of my reporting and the comparison to charlottesville which came up in my reporting was so fascinateling. the two events share similarities of a year ago now at the very beginning of white house chief of staff john kelly's tenure and share similarities in terms of a real gaffe by the president or some people would argue intentional statement and followed by attempted cleanup that didn't convince anybody and left people thinking that what the president had initially said first about both sides being culpable for the rally in charlottesville and then about undermining american int

here with me at the table to share their reporting and insights, cnn's jeff zeleny, eliana johnson with politico, and mary katherine ham with the federalist. hi, everybody. happy tuesday. is it tuesday? >> it is tuesday. >> who knows anymore what day it is, what time it is. >> last day of july. >> oh, yeah. summer, slow down. let's focus on paul manafort. shimon was talking about some of the things we're going to see and hear. to wrap it up in a bow for out viewers, i want to show what we know and what we expect. this is the first trial stemming from the mueller probe. it is going to focus on his lavish lifestyle, not possible collusion. in fact, the prosecutors said they're not going to introduce specific russia ties, anything related to that in this trial, but they're going to call 35 witnesses, including rick gates, who was manafort's business partner, deputy campaign chairman for donald trump, and this is just the first trial. so what do you think is the significance for the white house you cover every day? >> i think the significance is as much as everyone at the white house is say

. >>> joining me, cnn's abby philip, "new york times" michael sheer, politico's eliana johnson and sara murray. it's the lobbying part of this is remarkable. the president is close to his decision. for example, in the case of judge barrett there, a lot of social conservatives love her. they're calling up and saying, mr. president, stand with her. she's from notre dame, from the midwest. she's a strong catholic and in the conservative view, she was unfairly attacked by dianne feinstein when confirmed to the current position. >> when we read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you. and that's of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for, for years in this country. >> that was a big deal then and it's a big deal now. a lot of people thought dianne feinstein was trying to apply a religious test. liberals get mad about the travel ban, calling it a muslim ban. was that a catholic ban on the supreme court? >> that interaction really put barrett onto the national stage. it drew tons of attention and made her a hero