nick: eliana johnson, jonathan capehart, thank you very much both. jonathan: thank, nick. : thank you. nick: finally tonight, the longtime journalist who wrote the column tilting at windmills. charles peters, who was often called the godfather of neo-liberalism, died thursday at his home in washington. peters was once a campaign staffer for john f. kennedy and later an executive at the peace corps. he was also the founding editor of the washington monthly, a political journey. -- political journal. judy woodruff sat down with peters in 2017. judy: you launched a magazine in the late 1960's, you said because you wanted to look at what the federal government was doing right, and what it was doing wrong, how it could do better. but you soon expanded that to look at the whole country. >> we felt we had to get into those broader cultural issues. but the main thing that happened was the snobbery that began with the anti-war movement. that was, i think, one of two really bad things that happened to divide the country. the other was the growth of greed and the conspicuous consumpti