now, the key thing to know about elie, the aspect of his background that he highlights in his book is his experience as a prosecutor. he served 14 years as one, first at the federal level in the southern district of new york from 2004-2012, and then 2012, and then at the state level in the new jersey division criminal justice on 2012-2016. he is a legal olivas and host a podcast and what's a special counsel at a law firm, advising on investigations and trial strategy. but it's his time as a prosecutor that it draws on for his book using stories from that time to highlight lessons that he learned as a norms and principles of law enforcement. lessons that o he says bill barr himself would and should have learned had he ever been a prosecutor. to say elie has a -- frau bill barr performed as attorney general under donald trump, is an understatement. elie excoriates bill barr for range of since charging him with lye, acting as a political partisan and opposing his own legal and philosophical views on how civil society ought to function. that's just in the opening pages of "hatchet man." p

so elie, i to do want to just - sort of to put the pause and put the emphasis on something very basic but very crucial. they would have had to establish probable cause that a crime was committed and that they needed to search for more information on that. again, they would have had to have already established probable cause of a crime, in this case related to the former president of the united states. i just want to put the exclamation point on that. >> yeah, and erin, let me explain sort of how that works. a prosecutor has to sit down and write out an affidavit with an fbi agent. you can't just say, hey, judge, we have probable cause, take our word for it. there actually are contexts where you can do that, but in a search warrant, you have to say and here's what are probable cause is. we have the following evidence. you have to write it all out. then there's a check on that. it's not just up to prosecutors. it's not just up to the fbi. you have to take it to a federal judge who then reviews it and has to agree, and i've done this many times. occasionally a judge will say i don't thin

>> you know, i absolutely agree with elie. think in large measure, what we will see at the end of the day are maybe the citations of a couple of statutes, the elements of those crimes, but anything that goes to the investigation, anything that provides the detail and the data, the facts that are supporting that affidavit, i fully expect will be blacked out. so whatever it ends up being, 20 to 30 pages, i would expect 29 lines will be filled with black lines. the government has a week to do this. they certainly, if the judge does something they feel is unreasonable, they have the right to appeal. i would be very surprised if they don't reach some sort of agreement, but you know, to what elie said before, i don't think that what comes out of this process next thursday or whenever the judge rules is going to give us really any information of significant value that advances our understanding of what went into this affidavit. >> so, jessica, just help us understand the process again. what elie is saying is, get out the redaction pe

we're back with areva, elie and harry.reva, it is incredible to think this part of the building has been sealed off and preserved and i was so interested in the instructions the jurors got. they were told, they can go in, move at their own pace. they needed to avoid touching anything. and there would be nothing in there explained to them. so, it would just be basically their own impressions when they saw broken glass or blood or teddy bears. i have to believe this would make them more inclined for the death penalty. is that true? >> well, clearly, alisyn, that is the purpose of this visit. the prosecutors wanted these jurors to see this preserved building and to see the bloodstains, to see the teddy bears, the broken windows as a part of proving the aggravating factors necessary under florida capital punishment laws. they wanted to establish that this shooter engaged in cruel and calculated and heinous conduct and that his conduct rises to the level that would make him a candidate for the death penalty under florida law. t

back with me now, katelyn polantz, evan perez, elie honig.the "new york times" that the statutes we have been looking for in the documents, they have them. what do you know. >> we have been waiting to see whether the statutes were included in the search warrant, they apparently are. according to "the new york times," there are three criminal laws that are part of this investigation where federal authorities were seeking evidence of and that they had probable cause to believe that they would find evidence of these crimes at mar-a-lago. they are first and foremost, a violation of the espionage act, gathering, transmitting or losing defense information, so that's the mishandling of documents. that could hurt the national defense, be used to injure the united states in some way. the maximum penalty for breaking that law is ten years in prison. there's also an obstruction of justice statute that are under investigation. the maximum penalty for that is 20 years in prison. that is obstruction. we talk about obstruction quite a lot. donald trump has

ely: es un placer.: claro que no—— gustavo: claro que no. el control de armas tiene que ser algo real en el estado de texas. hemos tomado muchas medidas. han hecho cerca de ocho pies de altura. creo que si alguien quiere entrar a la escuela, hacernos daÑo lo va a hacer. ely: quÉ dicen los padres? gustavo: muchos como todos preocupados de que le llegue a pasar algo a sus hijos, pero estÁn contentos que hemos experimentado unas medidas. el aÑo pasado no tenÍamos las llaves electrÓnicas. bÁsicamente, estÁbamos expuestos para que entrara cualquier persona. ahora sÍ tenemos la llave electrÓnica. las puertas exteriores estÁn cerradas todo el tiempo. ely: profesor, ustedes siempre quÉ de alguna forma esto le da alivio aunque crea que en este momento no es suficiente? gustavo: personalmente, en mi opiniÓn no. creo que se debe hacer una reforma integral de armas. bÁsicamente, quitar las armas de uso militar. creo que eso no nos ayuda como sociedad en nada. ely: correcto. muchas gracias su testimonio. es impresio

evan perez, chief political ana ana analyst gloria borger and elie honig. you all probably thought you would have a nice dinner today and relax a little bit and there was going to be no big news all of a sudden on this thursday evening. all of you thought wrong and probably across america. evan, look, i mean the fbi searched trump's home looking for classified documents. what we didn't realize according to "the washington post" they might be related to nuclear weapons. now, that gives anyone in their right mind pause if that's true. what are we learning tonight? >> well, exactly right. that is, you know, the idea that these documents related to nuclear weapons programs would be among the things that the fbi was concerned about or was looking for, would be a dramatic step. we know, we have reported today at cnn, we reported that among the disputes, the items that were in dispute during this months and months of back and forth between the trump lawyers and the national archives and the justice department were documents that had to do with special access progr

assistant attorney harry litman and elie honig and steve moore. elie, you're on set with me. give me your blanket early analysis of what you found in this document. >> we now know why this escalated to a criminal investigation. there's two sets of boxes here. it's the boxes that the fbi removed from mar-a-lago during the search warrant. we already know a good bit about those boxes because we've seen this receipt for property that was laid out that there was classified evidence in those boxes, including sci, which is the highest level of top secret documents. however, there was a second set of documents, an earlier set of documents that archives, the national archives got from mar-a-lago. 15 boxes. and we knew next to nothing about what was in those boxes. but now we know a lot that's really important. we know they contain 184 classified documents. 25 of them were top secret. they contain donald trump's handwriting. we don't know when that got in there. they were unfoldered and intermixed with other documents. that tells me somebody was in there doing things, moving documents

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elie, you're a prosecutor. where does this go now?ge and intent. >> and now? it >> so, the importance and difficulty of establishing that. i see some important establishing of evidence and intent in this photo. the photo that we see in a screen, anyone who can read, it's not like a small print, bold print up top, top secret, sci, top secret, top secret. so anyone who physically saw these documents, took them in, would understand their secret, top secret. also in detail from page 12, where doj rights that they basically say that we told him to keep all these documents occur in the storage room. but they say three classified documents that were not located in boxes, but rather were located in the desk of the 45. office >> 45 office, yeah. >> so, they got their somehow. who has access to those desk? i think is some really important indicators there that would go towards the establishment of knowledge and intent. in terms of what happens next, donald trump's team has to file tomorrow. the judge will have a hearing on thursday, maybe he wi

and i want to start with elie. first, the legal element of this. this application, it sounds like a big deal coming from the attorney general. is this unprecedented? how rare is it to request that this be made public? >> this is a remarkable and unusual move, victor. we essentially saw merrick garland call donald trump's bluff. here's what i mean by that -- in the wake of this search warrant, donald trump has two documents, he and his lawyers. one is the search warrant itself with whatever attachments, the other is this inventory or this receipt. now those documents are going to have important information about the search. these are the documents people have said if drum donald trump wants to make an issue he should release them. merrick garland said the doj are going to release them. we're going to ask the judge to unseal documents, meaning making them available to the public. doj policy is they will only speak about things that are on the record with the court. so essentially merrick garland said, okay, donald trump, you're not going to release t

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elie stay with us. we have new insight into another controversial legal decision concerning donald trump. evan perez joining us. this goes back to the mueller report and whether or not president trump was obstructing justice. what have we learned? >> this is a 2019 memo that the courts finally ordered the justice department to release. they said that this memo that went to bill barr, this came from other top officials at the justice department, explaining which the justice department should not charge the former president with obstruction of justice. according to the judges who looked at this, they said bill barr had already made a decision not to charge trump and this memo really, what they called it was an academic exercise and a thought experiment. you'll see why. in this nine pages you see they go through -- the basic point that they make is that because trump was not charged with collusion with the russians, therefore, he cannot be charged with obstruction. i'll read you just a part of what they wr

evan, gloria, elie, all of you have the nickname of friend to me as well. thank you, elie. nice seeing you all. up next, everyone, we will hear from former nixon white house counsel, john dean, on tonight's big development. the post reports that agents were seeking classified nuclear documents. and doj's move to now try to unseal the mar-a-lago search warrant. i cannot wait to hear with this man has to say. if you wake up thinking about the market and want to make the right moves fast... get decision tech from fidelity. [ cellphone vibrates ] you'll get proactive alerts for market events before they happen... and insights on every buy and sell decision. with zero-commission online u.s. stock and etf trades. for smarter trading decisions, get decision tech from fidelity. we're carvana the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100 percent online now we've created a brand new way for you to sell your car whether it's a year old, or a few years old we want to buy your car so go to carvana enter your license plate answer a few questions and our techno wizard

elie, i want to begin with you. when you look at what was released in the documents yesterday, i want to ask you particularly about the language willful retention of national defense information. and i have a very quick follow-up. what would be the significance of that and what would you need to do to prove that? >> yeah, jim, that's one subsection of the espionage act. and it is really important that we know now where prosecutors are focused. the key words here are willful retention. willful just means knowingly and with some awareness that what you're doing is against the law. retention means holding on to the documents. i think the natural question is, well, who would have been in position to make that decision? i think the first person you think of there is donald trump, the one who was in possession of those documents in the white house, the one who owns and controls mar-a-lago. so important to note. the papers don't specify donald trump in particular. you usually as a prosecutor don't specify a person. but we

>> well, i agree with elie. i think it was probably a smart legal move because there are other investigations. and you have the d.a. in a criminal case looking at him. and if he had slipped up or if he had lied, that could be used against him. and so, you know, i've dealt with lawyers who have represented donald trump in the past, and they were always very reluctant to have him testify because they knew that could happen, that he would slip up or lie. if you remember during the mueller case, they ended up doing written answers to questions. so i think if i were his lawyer, that probably would have been my recommendation, to take the fifth. politically, that's a little bit more difficult. but since he's made himself the victim in all of this, before he took the fifth, he may have muted that, at least among his base. >> you know, melanie, do these developments, and they're very dramatic, actually present a challenge to republicans who were hoping to focus on the issues ahead of the midterm elections in november an

elie honig and brendan van grek. elie, i'm going to start with you. the judge gave it the green light to be released to the public. we're going to see by noon tomorrow what happens here, how much we get if they redacted things pertaining to witnesses related to the ongoing investigation or grand jury investigation. what are we going to learn in your estimation? >> don, you are right to expect a lot of black redaction ink, and indeed, doj will be blacking out a lot of the most important information, the most sensitive information about witnesses, about ongoing investigation. however, laura cotes is also correct when she says we are still going to learn quite a bit from this affidavit tomorrow. first of all, i think we're going to get chapter and verse on the whole protracted negotiation between archives and doj on the one hand be the trump team on the other. we've seen some good reporting on. that now we're going to get it rock solid. just how long, just how many times they tried to do it the nice way before they had to go in with a search warrant. als

. >> legally, let's talk about this, elie, as our legal expert. the national defense information, what could that mean? put it in context with the former presidents actions when it comes to these classified documents. is that significant, willful retention of national information? >> it is significant new information. we already knew this number from last week that the dj was looking at. we have this number 20 701. there are 6 or 7 supports. this information, willful retention of national defense information, that tells us we're more specifically they're looking at and more logo. -- you had to hold on to information but willful is the important part. willful means you did it knowingly and intentionally, meaning he knew that there was national defensive permission, and he knew that withholding or removing it would put u.s. national security at risk. >> but do we know if we are talking about him or someone else? >> that is a good point. it is not necessarily double trump. when you fill out a search warrant, you did not say it. it does not appear the

joining me now is senior legal analyst and -- elie honig.nd cnn contributor and former white house counsel john dean, and cnn legal analysis and former u.s. assistant attorney general to the southern district of new york, jennifer rogers. all very accomplished minds, and very awesome. people thank you for joining us tonight, john, what would pat cipollone, and philbin know about this mar-a-lago documents as white house lawyers? what would they know? >> well, they unnaturally worthy contact points for the archives, and making some of the decisions about what should and should not go. they later got removed from that post, as i think the things of january six unraveled and they were all hands on deck there. but they know apparently a lot, and according to the reporting, they were able to tell the archives that, no, trump did not want to cooperate, he believed these documents were his. and apparently philbin tried to help facilitate getting that information to actually go to the archives. so, they know a little bit, they don't know all the deta

with me, paul callan, and elie honig. elie, they've asked for more pages. it seems to me doj is saying we have stuff we want to get off our chest here. >> this is unusual in a couple respects. there is such a thing as asking for an over length brief. you can do it if you feel you can't say it in 20 pages. the other thing is doj has been concise in the filings we've seen so far. ten-page briefs. the whole affidavit was 37 pages. they've got something on their minds. when we try to anticipate what that might be, if you look at donald trump's initial filing, the motion when he asked for a special master, there's two parts. the part where he asked for a special master is straightforward, munn date, uncontroversial. there's a whole bunch of crazy stuff where trump's lawyers are going on tangents about how this is all a political attack. i wonder how much each doj is going to address. >> this is by far the most we will hear from doj since the search warrant was executed. all the things released are actually before that moment. this is in some ways their first cha

so, it really is going to be, as elie said, he's going to be threading the needle.s going to be walking a really fine line here to make sure that he is taking care of the department that he is entrusted to protect and to make sure that the people there trust him as their leader. >> if i can just jump in. i think what you're going to hear from the attorney general is that the fbi did everything by the book. we have reporting, myself, my colleague, evan perez, and gabby orr, that the justice department issued at least two subpoenas, one subpoena for documents before that june meeting when the fbi agents went to mar-a-lago, and another subpoena to trump organization for video footage at mar-a-lago, and this came after months and months of discussions with aides to donald trump, with representatives, with lawyers, so after these months and after the archives took the 15 boxes, the fbi then took these other steps and i think what you're going to hear from him is, look, we took all the steps by the book here. we have done everything according to the rule of justice, and w

elie, i've got to ask you.the idea about why donald trump isn't in jail? do you think the highly -- sensitive information that we have back from the former president would make it more difficult to prosecute him? do people have to be extra careful because they don't want this information coming out? or do you think this is just hesitancy on the part of the doj? >> this is hesitancy. or moving forward in an ongoing criminal investigation. there's no reason why that could not continue going forward. people have to understand that the reason why this affidavit was so heavily redacted appropriate appropriately redacted, is that, a, there's an ongoing criminal investigation, you don't want to let the defendant know how they're coming after him. that's a lot when i won. the other reason is that trump gives aid and comfort to white domestic terrorist who have been threatening fbi agents over their ongoing investigation. that's new. that's not something that supposed to happen in america, where the former presidents ow

elie, good to have you. i ask the questions because there are multiple developments it seems every day and municipality investigations, so hard for folks at home to keep track. let's focus on the new development regarding the doj's january 6th investigation. what significance do you see in the documents they're now seeking from the national archives? >> so, jim, the national archives would be the custodian, the holder of documents from the trump white house. and we know from prior litigation that that would include memos, documents, notes made by people in and around the white house, on and around january 6th itself. that's obviously crucial documentation, it is from the key period of hours and days. of course, prosecutors want to see that. what is really interesting about this is as evan reported, this say broader subpoena. the first subpoena from doj said, archives, give us everything you've already give tonight january 6th committee. final. this one apparently goes even more broad than that and that's wha

i agree with elie. keep in mind normally when you subpoena information from someone, that is in the possession legally of the person being subpoenaed or the party being subpoenaed. here donald trump did not appear to legally have this, so that justifies more i think assertive action, as well. as far as what's next, we'll see -- you know, merrick garland did indicate there will be some redactions. what does that mean? we'll see stuff blacked out. and of course the justice department has to be very careful to not give out information that could be classified. so you know, what -- that process will unfold one way or the other in terms of what is actually made public. then i think the justice department will go back in its business, back in a confidential process of investigate of these things relating to donald trump from january 6th to the fake electors to what's happened with the presidential records act, and hopefully i should say, poppy, that the american people and the press, we can all keep our eye o

elie great to see you as always. if you look we've other so much in the virtual said and we've got to meet up in person at some point regrets thank you brad, omar thank you for doing this. somehow we've never met and personable we've become fast friends are you coming events in me commentating on it and furiously texting,d what you hearing what you think of this? and it asked you to do x and think you're such a talented young reporter and you have spoken to my classes and you connect so well with them. so thank you for doingng that. >> for sure thanks for having me. for everyone's here i'm excited for thiss conversation mainly because it is rare that you have a book that of course is a tax cover to cover. but also continues into the world as we move forward. it's very irrelevant. the news cycle bill barr continues to make headlines even after his time as attorney general and after elie is finished with this great book hatchet man. >> matching copies i love it, i love it. >> want to think i'm going to start with has l

katelyn polantz, elie honig, thank you. >>> u.s. officials are urging americans in ukraine to get out now, warning they have intel about potential new russian attacks. >> this is all happening on the eve of ukraine's independence day. marks 31 years since the country broke from the soviet union. joining us now, cnn national security correspondent kylie atwood and cnn national security correspondent david mckenzie in kyiv. kylie, are u.s. officials describing the type or the kinds of attacks that they're worried about? >> no, this is a very generic warning to americans, but this advisory encouraging them to get out of the country and telling them to do so as quickly as possible. but we should note, of course, victor, that the state department has been urging all americans to leave ukraine for months now, even preceding russia's invasion. so, essentially, this is renewing that encouragement, and i want to read to you what the state department travel advisory security alert here actually said, because it explained why they are encourag

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elie, how big of a deal is the subpoena?llone's cooperation and how it could have in the justice investigation. >> well, passive baloney was right at the heart of virtually every stage and the entire effort by donald trump and others around him to try to block congress and steal the election. virtually, every one of the key moments, the meeting in the oval office, the meeting with doj. the meeting with the other advisers who were in donald trump's, or pets at the lonely was there. and often, pat cipollone's role was to tell donald trump, no, we cannot do this to push back against the worse exes in the worst abuses. so, don, this tells me that doj is looking at the inner inner circle of the trump white house. >> susan, everyone will try to read something into this. i'm not sure what there is to be read into this. but i should ask, in this latest development should be seen as a win to protecting our democracy in america? >> well, look, don, it's more than a year and a half after january six itself. and, we only are just gettin

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joining us now, we have i know senior legal analyst elie honig, a former federal prosecutor, and norm eisen, who served as house special counsel during president trump's first impeachment trial. gentlemen, great to see you. norm, i want to start with you on that georgia investigation where the prosecutors have alerted rudy giuliani that he is a target of the investigation, and you have said, if he's a target, then donald trump is a target, because they were so intertwined in this. but why, then, haven't prosecutored alerted donald trump that he's a target? why only rudy giuliani? >> alisyn, the reason that i think donald trump not is a current target but is at risk of being named as a target, the reason is because he was so intertwined with rudy giuliani on the facts of this assault on the law in georgia, because the two of them were, in essence, joined at the hip. i don't see a world in which giuliani gets a target letter, and that's what a target designation is. it's a letter from the government telling you that there's substantial evidence of possible crime and that you may be char

e elie, listen to this. saying the president could, emphasis on could, probably be in deep trouble here. >> the president is in significant legal jeopardy if he retained classified information that mar-a-lago and especially if he failed to turn it over to department and the fbi all of these months later. >> you hear him lay it out. this is the conversation the last 48 hours to is not issue a subpoena but decide you're taking your extraordinary step of searching a search warrant at the home and the office of the former president of the united states. the implication is they got serious information that those either trump had lied about documents he returned or some documents in peril. but still things we don't know here. >> yeah. i think evan's new reporting sort of answers some questions and raises others. i think it tells us this is why the fbi felt it was important to get a search warrant which is a drastic and intrusive measure. they felt there were national security interests and david lov laufman said i

welcome eli honig and asha rangappa. let me put your name first -- asha, first. there we go, everyone. -- investigators were at mar-a-lago just in june. they even talk to trump. now, we're learning from authorities that there are suspicions that they're holding over materials and that now hand over everything. does that explain why things escalated from the time they were there to the time they are now essentially entering and executing a search warrant? >> it's a start, laura. i would say it partially explains it. the question i have is exactly the question you raised, though. it is one thing to be suspicious. it's one thing to suspect you are being lied to her or documents are being withheld. it's another thing to be able to prove it. and to prove that those documents being withheld are sufficiently serious, sufficiently, potentially dangerous to justify a search warrant. and let's be clear, when we talk about justifying a search warrant. all three of us know that legally, all you have to do is show probable cause that a prime is committed and get just a sign o

it is quite clear they're stealing votes. >> elie, scott, and john are back with me. as a speechwriter for rudy giuliani when he served as mayor of new york city. that sounds like more time than needed to plead the fifth. >> that is a full day of questioning. if you had full questioning for six hours, we have rules of thumb, that's about 2 to 300 pages of transcript. what could have happened for six hours? there's only three possibilities. he actually testified in substance. he took the fifth. or he invoked the attorney/client privilege. you're right, if he askewas ask six hours of questions, and he said, fifth, fifth, fifth, it would be unbearable. you have to go question by question, it's excruciating. how do we know what rudy giuliani said? prosecutors can't talk about it, that's illegal, it violates criminal laws against violating grand jury secrecy. rudy, however, can tell us whatever the heck he wants, he can say here is what they asked me, or a spokesperson for lawyer for him. >> i feel like we will find out. >> perhaps. >> honestly, john. you know rudy, i've i

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i will go to you, elie. it's different in a civil case when you plead the fifth.- war does it mean? >> practically, technically, legally, that can be used against donald trump in a civil case. you can stand up in front of a civil jury, if laetitia james, the attorney general, does bring a civil lawsuit, and say he took the fifth, jury, you are entitled to assume the worst. you you can't use that against a person in a criminal case, period. it's not quite right for people to say only guilty people take the fifth. trump said that. years ago. he's wrong. and people say to even today, a little bit glibly. it's not true, it's not the way our constitution is built. sure, plenty of difficulty people take the fifth. innocent people who are only accused take the fifth. people who commit crime well, maybe they don't know, they are being investigated, they can take the fifth. trump has that right but we have the public also have the right to say that that is a historic blight for a former president to put himself in that situation. >> all right, elie honig, mark and john, it

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we have page paid, a criminal defense and elie honig is a state prescrosecutor and senior legal analyst. so the january 6 committee is interesting alex jones' texts and here is one clue as to why they might be. here is alex jones talking about january 6th five days earlier on january 1st. >> i'm going to be speaking in d.c. roger stone is going to be speaking in d.c. general flynn is going to be speaking and roger stone spent substantial time in trump with florida a few days ago, i have a fuel intel i'm not at liberty to tell you not just from roger but from other people that have been m meeting with the president and war game wlag is coming. >> war gaming what is coming. >> there is two possibilities. either alex jones is just talking crazy and making lies up and that is sort of his brand or he's basing that on something and what would catch my attention, whether coming from the perspective of the january 6 committee or doj, is alex jones said that roger stone and others people, so if will is any truth to that and texts have a way of revealing truth in a way in a witnesses often don't,

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. >> let's bring in cnn senior legal analyst elie honig as well. what do you think of trump's chances in terms of succeeding in this filing and getting a special master to be appointed to go through all of the material collected at mar-a-lago before the justice department takes whatever they find relevant? >> well, jake, on the special master request, i think donald trump has a fair legood chance of prevailing. it's a reasonable request. it's actually not unprecedented. the idea is let's get an outside third party, typically you would have a retired federal judge come in and review these documents and make sure that there's nothing that's attorney/client privilege, potentially executive privilege. if there is, the special master will hold on to it. there is precedent for this. most memorably when doj did a search warrant on michael cohen in 2018, there was a special master appointed, a former federal judge from the southern district of new york, barbara jones. she only passed along to prosecutors those documents that were not privileged. as kaitlan

i'm going to get right to cnn political correspondent sara murray, cnn legal correspondent elie honig, and cnn senior political analyst john avlon. and again, as we wait on all of this, good evening, everyone, we're waiting on these papers to drop. and so, we will continue on till it happens. it should happen at any moment now. we will definitely know, hopefully before midnight. probably before midnight, yes? so we should know. >> sarah, i'm gonna start with you. the doj, to address legal and factual issues in this 40 page filing. what can you tell us about it, do you know anything? >> well, obviously, we are all waiting to see, as there is a midnight deadline. but you know, the fact they asked for these additional pages, they said they want to address legal and factual issues that the trump team brought up in their filing, tells you that they do want to give their sort of robust version of events. you know, in the trump filing, team trump argued the former president was very cooperative, talking about how these search at mar-a-lago was over the top. so, we would expect the justice de